#indieweb 2025-09-10

2025-09-10 UTC
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Loqi [indienews] New post: https://gregorlove.com/2025/09/i-was-reminded-of/
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gRegor Guess I need to give it a proper title instead of the name being a prefix of the full post
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gRegor Resubmitted, better
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[tantek] gRegor++ solid post. would add -wordpress-plugin-update to the slug for findability / search juice
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Loqi gRegor has 8 karma in this channel over the last year (120 in all channels)
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[tantek] or even updates plural
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gRegor thanks! I try to keep them 4 or 5 words, but might tweak it
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aaronpk in that case i would have gone with lessons-custom-wordpress-plugins
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gRegor Yeah, title came after when I was trying to syndicate to indienews haha
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[tantek] guess we'll see how well indienews handles Webmention updates ๐Ÿ˜†
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gRegor Ooh, got an indie like from someone who works at Automattic, nice!
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aaronpk uhoh
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aaronpk "uhoh" was about indienews not automattic lol
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gRegor I figured :)
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gRegor If I update, the old one will redirect so no issue with indienews
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[tantek] except possibly double-listing
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gRegor Though I'm not usually too concerned with search juice these days. Who searches?? /s
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gRegor I wouldn't re-send the webmention
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gRegor *stops the jargon before Loqi*
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[tantek] I mean, anyone us could ... ;)
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aaronpk i would hope indienews would handle the renamed page but I am not 100% confident it does
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aaronpk tries to describe the situation without jargon
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gRegor lol *devil emoji*
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gRegor slug is updated. optional exercise for devious viewers :)
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[tantek] gRegor when I click the prior slug link above ^ I get "No articles were published."
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gRegor Ooh, thanks. caching bug
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[tantek] ooh also at https://gregorlove.com/2025/09/
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gRegor That one is accurate :)
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gRegor Well, it's an implementation detail I guess. It's pulling in things specifically tagged "article" which this one today wasn't
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[tantek] huh I thought it was an archive of everything September 2025
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gRegor It's a bit -dev, but I have different template files, one for articles and one for notes
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Loqi hey gRegor, we try to keep jargon (implementation, template) out of this channel to make it more inviting to newcomers, can you move this to #indieweb-dev?
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gRegor dangit
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gRegor I do want to create more complete archives for everything, not just articles. Haven't settled on how I want notes to look on there.
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gRegor Appreciate the URL digging :)
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[tantek] ah got it. no worries, did not mean to distract you from your priorities/plans. figured I should say something when I saw something ๐Ÿ™‚
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gRegor No worries at all! This is actually leading me to fix something related
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Lessons for custom WordPress plugins and themes" https://gregorlove.com/2025/09/lessons-custom-wordpress-plugins/
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gRegor haha. welp
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[tantek] there you go aaronpk! found a bug ๐Ÿ˜„ https://news.indieweb.org/en
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[tantek] ๐Ÿค gRegor++
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Loqi gRegor has 9 karma in this channel over the last year (121 in all channels)
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gRegor lol, just what he wants I'm sure
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[tantek] 2.5 days until aaronpk better fix the https://news.indieweb.org/en duping bug for Webmentions from posts that change their slugs (but redirect from the old to the new) before a duplicate entry in the What Weโ€™re Reading section in the weekly newsletter is sent out later today
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Loqi I added a countdown scheduled for 2025-09-12 2:28pm UTC (#7215)
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gRegor XD
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[morganm] Just a little post on my site: https://www.morganwebdev.org/posts/pohutukawa/
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Loqi [preview] [ยฉ Morgan Murrah - morganwebdev.org 2025] Responsive Images: Pลhutukawa tree example
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l4nc nice trick with that img
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capjamesg I have a new subdomain: https://air-fryer.jamesg.blog/
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aaronpk lol why?
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capjamesg It's my air fryer blog.
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[artlung] c'mon aaronpk, for that domain what reply would satisfy you? me: I LOVE IT. RIDICULOUS
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capjamesg It will be updated when I finally get a two-drawer air fryer.
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aaronpk ohh a blog ok
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aaronpk is it going to blog everything that it fries?
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[artlung] what is a single serving website?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "single serving website" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "single serving website is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[artlung] what is a single-serving site?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "single-serving site" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "single-serving site is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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capjamesg It will only update if and when I change air fryers.
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capjamesg Ninja air fryers are cool.
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[artlung] single-serving site is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-serving_site
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[schmarty] i can't believe my luck that i get to share this here https://imanicoppola.bandcamp.com/album/air-fryer
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Loqi ok
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[schmarty] album not safe for work, good for the soul
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capjamesg TIL single-serving site.
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[tantek] why an airfryer blog instead of tag?
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doesnm [artlung]: maybe you are mean /Wikipedia:Single-serving_site
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capjamesg [tantek] This site needs its own identity to fully encapsulate its character.
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[tantek] ok! so styling/theming then
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[artlung] thanks doesnm. I cribbed the syntax from BBS
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[artlung] (from tantek)
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aaronpk ooo i like the idea of being able to have different styles on my tag pages
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aaronpk over the years i've been much happier consolidating all the random things that used to be standalone sites/subdomains into my main site as tag pages
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[artlung] integration
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capjamesg I haven't blogged that much this month. I'm delighted to be back: https://jamesg.blog/2025/09/10/whimsy
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capjamesg [edit] I haven't blogged that much this month. I'm delighted to be back: https://jamesg.blog/2025/09/10/whimsy
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capjamesg I am happy to answer engineering questions about the site in Homebrew Website Club ๐Ÿ˜„
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Loqi Homebrew Website Club Europe/London is starting soon! Join us! https://events.indieweb.org/sMw51LtApJQB
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carrvo capjamesg, I have an air fryer and I always seem to gravitate towards trying to make home-made french fries (without all the oil of deep frying or store-bought pre-made).
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capjamesg Yeah! I mostly use mine for fries.
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capjamesg Very occasionally fish too.
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[aciccarello] capjamesg, smart use of a subdomain over buying a separate domain. I admire the restraint ๐Ÿ˜‚
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capjamesg [aciccarello] The last thing I wanted to do while eating my dinner was to buy a domain name ๐Ÿ˜‚
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[aciccarello] I just let an unused short domain go. I'm still looking for one I can be happy with.
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[tantek] that's a hard one
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[tantek] wow beautiful https://paulrobertlloyd.com/travel/ travel pages, subpages, individual travel leg pages with details etc. [Paul_Robert_Ll]++
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Loqi [Paul_Robert_Ll] has 1 karma over the last year
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Loqi [preview] [Paul Robert Lloyd] Lyon and Sitges
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[aciccarello] What is travel
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Loqi โœˆ travel is a post type about plans to change locations, similar to an event post about going to a destination, and related to trip posts https://indieweb.org/travel
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[aciccarello] Some good examples on that page
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "30 collaborative things you can do on the web" https://jamesg.blog/2025/09/10/collaborative-web-activities
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[Al_Abut] Oh Iโ€™ve been to Sitges! Beautiful maps [Paul_Robert_Ll] , nice find [tantek]
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[Al_Abut] Iโ€™d like to raise my mapping game to include series like that, ideally importing and visualizing data from ridewithgps instead of just embedding their widgets.
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Loqi Homebrew Website Club - Eastern is starting soon! Join us! https://events.indieweb.org/c3N93hNdSNx3
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[tantek] really appreciate [Paul_Robert_Ll] attention to detail in his designs. lots of inspo in there
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[KevinMarks] That air fryer implies a dual serving website
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[KevinMarks] I find that the air fryer is the complement of the microwave. If you want something to be hot and damp, use the microwave. if you want it hot and crunchy use the air fryer.
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[KevinMarks] So it works to cook bacon, sausages, oil-shaken vegetables and to reheat pizza, Naan, fish fingers etc
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[KevinMarks] It beats an oven (even a toaster oven) by sheer speed of heat up for one or two person consumption
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[KevinMarks] And it beats a grill by being less top down,so it makes better cheese on toast, skin-on salmon or bruschetta by not burning the top while also heating the bottom
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aaronpk is this #indieweb-cafe?
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capjamesg [KevinMarks] It sounds like you, too, should have an air fryer page on your website.
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[tantek] +1 aaronpk
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[tantek] unless I start seeing some air-fryer posts on your blog [KevinMarks] ๐Ÿ˜‚
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[KevinMarks] Probably true, though I don't currently have one
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[tantek] GWG, wdyt of this microsyntax for travel legs? Have you seen it before? I've used it a bunch: https://indieweb.org/microsyntax#travel_leg
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aaronpk I prefer PDXโœˆ๏ธSFO
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[tantek] (actually anyone here who travels and shares plain text travel leg information in various places
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[tantek] )
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[tantek] aaronpk I sometimes do that too, figured I'd start with ASCII no emoji. I'll add that to the brainstorm
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aaronpk for ascii I like PDX->SFO
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[tantek] lol slack copied ": airplane :" (without the spaces) from that aaronpk
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aaronpk i found an actual example on my site with jut hyphen, i'll link it on the page
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aaronpk my earliest example: https://aaronparecki.com/2013/09/30/15/
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Loqi [preview] [Aaron Parecki] PDX -> SFO
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[tantek] amazing
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[tantek] do you know which you have used the most often / most recently / currently prefer?
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aaronpk looks like all my most recent examples use emoji, and previous to that was all ->