#indieweb 2025-10-30

2025-10-30 UTC
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cupparex aaronpk[d]++ thanks for the help yesterday with that error. tried to give you karma earlier, but loqi put the whoah nelly on me, so I had to wait.
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Loqi aaronpk[d] has 11 karma in this channel over the last year (128 in all channels)
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Loqi Homebrew Website Club - Pacific is starting soon! Join us! https://events.indieweb.org/Zdg5ALPuaM07
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aaronpk haha thanks
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[morganm] I really enjoyed HWC Pacific again, great to see everyone
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capjamesg [tantek] I think so!
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capjamesg I made a trick-or-treat game with HTML and CSS: https://playground.jamesg.blog/trick-or-treat.html
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cupparex Good morning everyone!
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cupparex I wrote my first blogpost about IndieWeb for the IndieWeb Carnival 🙂 the topic is ego -https://crystaltouchton.com/ego/
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cupparex That's so cute capjamesg[d]
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capjamesg CuppaRex[d]++ Terrific blog post!
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Loqi CuppaRex[d] has 3 karma over the last year
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cupparex capjamesg[d]: Thank you! 🙂
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mrmet86 CuppaRex[d]: A great post!
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cupparex mrmet86[d]: Thank you 🙂
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failxontour What is RSS
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Loqi RSS is an acronym for a set of XML feed file format variants used for syndicating time-stamped content from web sites like blogs and podcasts, and sometimes a shorthand for feed file formats as a whole including Atom, or even more broadly for the concept of feeds or syndication in general https://indieweb.org/RSS
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failxontour What is ActivityPub
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Loqi friendly reminder failxontour, we try to keep dev talk (RSS, ActivityPub) out of this channel, can you move to #indieweb-dev?
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Loqi ActivityPub is a decentralized social networking protocol (W3C Recommendation) developed in the Social Web Working Group based on pump.io and ActivityStreams. Conceptually they were all preceded by OStatus. It was briefly known as ActivityPump before being renamed to ActivityPub https://indieweb.org/activitypub
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failxontour What is a webring
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Loqi A webring is a collection of websites linked together in a circular structure; check out the indiewebring, a webring across IndieWeb sites and blogs https://indieweb.org/webring
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rgbivvv i want to join a webring :O
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[tantek] You can!
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rgbivvv lemme find one first ....
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failxontour rgbivvv do you have your own persona website yet with your static site generator?
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failxontour if your site supports IndieAuth or RelMeAuth i suggest joining spiderring https://xn--sr8hvo.ws/
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Loqi hey failxontour, it looks like this conversation is getting pretty technical (site generator, static site generator, RelMeAuth), can you take it to #indieweb-dev?
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failxontour all this info is a bit to technical even for me with mf2 parsing and indieauth i see that latter acts as i guess oAuth2 network but I simply put can't really grasp my head arround how to implement neither on my personal page yet
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failxontour even with a lot of aaron's p3k tools... I never used composer really before or any of these web technologys and feel a bit lot rn
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failxontour still missing the basics
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failxontour lost*
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capjamesg A lot of aaronpk's tools are hosted so you can use them without having to set them up yourself if that works better.
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capjamesg You don't need to host anything to be able to sign into a site like the wiki with your domain name.
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failxontour capjamesg but does that not defeat the whole purpose of the web. I feel like it's a nessecitiy to do so if I already leech into this knowledege here
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capjamesg https://indieweb.org/How_to_set_up_web_sign-in_on_your_own_domain has more information.
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capjamesg [edit] https://indieweb.org/How_to_set_up_web_sign-in_on_your_own_domain has more information.
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failxontour But thanks for sharing that info
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capjamesg failxontour It's totally up to personal preference. There is a spectrum, though. I use webmention.io because I don't want to manage my own Webmentions, but, importantly, I _can_ at any time run my own because the protocol is open.
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failxontour can I even use the web sign via rel="relmeauth" if I have say 2FA active?
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failxontour or does it just act as account signature for sign-in and 2FA is still present then
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capjamesg RelMeAuth lets you say that you own your domain. Any 2FA would happen after a RelMeAuth check. The service you are signing into or your IndieAuth server could do a 2FA check if this was implemented.
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[tantek] -> #indieweb-dev please
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[tantek] regarding the user-level questions, failxontour, re: 2FA active, that's up to whichever login service you are using (including possibly your own!) that prompts you for the second factor. That's orthogonal to Web Sign-in.
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[tantek] For example, I use Web Sign-in with my website domain, and delegate to GitHub for authorization, and I have my GitHub login setup with 2FA which works great.
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Loqi Front End Study Hall #039 is starting soon! Join us! https://events.indieweb.org/T2pMy4xCrCvp
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[artlung] ^ yes, this
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rgbivvv failxontour: what do you mean persona website?
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failxontour check
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failxontour rgbivvv sorry meant personal*
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failxontour test?
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failxontour test ._.
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[tantek] what is a persona website
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "persona website" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "persona website is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] what is a personal website
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Loqi A website is a collection of related web pages, posts, and content, typically identified with a common domain name, and published on at least one web server or host https://indieweb.org/personal_website
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[tantek] persona website is /website
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Loqi ok
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failxontour hmph I think I did oversse username creation i used indielogin to webify me now my wiki account is Failxontour.de and I don't think that's how I get webified correctly.
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failxontour can i still change that as it's my fixed username on the wiki or do I have to live with that or change my nick here in the IRC?
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[tantek] your domain *is* your username. that's the point
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[tantek] chat names are more informal
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failxontour ok much better ty
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[tantek] though I did change my Discord name to my domain which I found quite pleasing
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tantek.com <-- like this
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evoli420blazeit sadly myusername looks like this ^^
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evoli420blazeit [edit] sadly my username looks like this ^^
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[tantek] lol I'm so late with posting anything even about all the October challenges. Well, we'll see if a few more folks participate even once 🙂 (proud of everyone keeping it up the whole month or even part thereof.)