#indieweb 2025-12-24

2025-12-24 UTC
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[morgan]
I have like others found Instagram a hard chestnut to fully crack. I deleted my old account months ago that was an older account, that felt good but was hard. Then I found myself out of touch with a handful of New Zealand friends. I've been working at figuring out who I actually can realistically want to remain in contact with or if it's time to let it go. Sticky glue, a actual spiders web and not the web I like better
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[morgan]
I am still inspired by people here who moved on from it and report goodness
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osteophage
Never had an Instagram account and I hope I never do.
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[morgan]
Oh absolutely dont get one, stay pure friend!
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osteophage
Tangentially related to Tantek's question in #indieweb-meta and the Sightless Scribbles post that Kevin posted on the 18th: would anyone here be interested in a post about how LLMs are bad for the indie web? I've been considering it, but I also know the subject as a whole is heavily-trod ground, to say the least, and many folks are sick of it.
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[morgan]
Ill just add for a thought about that, it is well trod ground, and I think Ive observed chat is not great for it, but a blog post with some caveats and humor and stuff might make it worthwhile.
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osteophage
Alas, if only I were good at being funny.
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[tantek]
need to spend more time with GWG
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Loqi
Homebrew Website Club - Pacific is starting soon! Join us! https://events.indieweb.org/U1XyJfMYxj3i
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gRegor
oh, forgot that was tonight!
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gRegor
even though I was there when Joe said he'd do it on Tuesday haha
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[morgan]
I might join later, Im kind of in a weird celebratory mood about taking leave, its kind of sinking in Im wont be back at work for 13 weeks
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burgeonlab
<Morgan> Yeah I find it hard to delete my IG because of the friends I made there. Most of them are not tech savvy or aware of 'Big Tech' or what the small web is.
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GWG
[tantek]: I am only funny when I have a comedy partner.
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burgeonlab
Oh I also didn't notice it's today! I might join for a while too
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GWG
[tantek]: Remind me to tell you the one about the Rabbi and the counterfeit money.
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GWG
I'm just folding laundry, joining in a minute
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GWG
Virtual background doesn't work on the computer I leave here
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[morgan]
burgeonlab++
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Loqi
burgeonlab has 3 karma over the last year
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gRegor
Oops, meant that for the events channel. That's the etherpad for notes
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[morgan]
I still feel unsure about what to share on my website or not but there is a very strong potential I will blog or write something about my decades long journey of diagnosis with one chronic condition but not getting treated for ADHD-like stuff thats been hammering my life for a while and just trying to adapt to living with it untreated but is now miraculously getting treated well and its a big adjustment but a whole bunch of medications are
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[morgan]
changing. Just all of this to say, good luck and good health everyone, its rough out there at times.
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burgeonlab
[capjamesg] I recently did a small contribution to a collaborative blog actually, the og blogger (Joel) put out a question about what game to bring to an desert island. Almost 20 bloggers replied! It was a fun experience seeing what others said and being part of something collaborative. https://joelchrono.xyz/blog/desert-island-games/
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Loqi
burgeonlab has 4 karma over the last year
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capjamesg
burgeonlab++ I love that!
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[KevinMarks]
writing about LLMs on your own site is probably a good idea. You can also tell the Science Fiction Writers of America about it https://bsky.app/profile/kevinmarks.com/post/3maovrofork2k
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[morgan]
just a thought I had, but basically I would read something like mid-form text that isnt llm generated which aims to explain or teach little bits of things, thats the kind of thing I like reading. I dont like the short form anything todo with LLMs (and I think thats part of the resistance here in many parts, is its really burdensome to have it be the topic of discussion all the time when its so many places already) and also long form (how much is
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[morgan]
there really to explain about bots that predict words based on limited data and bias)??
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[morgan]
I think for me Id like to read mid-form sort of cultural stories about the topic, so if anyone blogs, Id love to find it/see/be told about it. Everyones just kinda figuring out how to they relate to this stuff. Dont want to read tweets. Dont want to read long NYT articles either.
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[schmarty]
hooray for medium-form personal content and personal sites! discussion about (discussion about) LLMs feels like it's getting off-topic for the main channel. 😅
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[morgan]
Ah shoot I did it again, your right. Anyways, blog away people, just know its a fun discussion for many especially on the chat
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[morgan]
not*
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[morgan]
In terms main channel discussion; I look forward to create day! Mostly working on some note taking app stuff in obsidian. No bots in sight.
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[morgan]
My Create Day Topic is literally: Fun. Brainstorming ways to have more fun. Ive had a strong fun deficit running for a while. I actually do know how to have fun in general, its just been a little atrophied this year! only if its fun, Im thinking about trying out Obsidian publish even if it costs a few dollars
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[morgan]
$8 a month isnt small though. Hmm. I think I can probably do more for my personal website even with markdown notes rather than that service. Anyways, Create Day is fun, I had a really good experience last year making some stuff for my website~
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[artlung]
Thanks for sharing that SFWA post [KevinMarks]
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[artlung]
This message is off-topic and provocative and spam. Needs to be deleted.
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[tantek]
lolwut. also we don't tolerate advocating for violence around here wtf
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[tw2113]
#indieweb-dev has a similar post to remove if able
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[tantek]
Deleted from Slack and Discord. Will cleanup logs in a bit
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valerieflynn
Here's a search engine folks might like:
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IWDiscord
<v​alerieflynn>
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[tantek]
What is search?
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Loqi
🔍 search in the IndieWeb usually refers to searching your personal site for your own content (and/or caches of content you’ve responded to), sometimes searching IndieWeb chat archives or the IndieWeb wiki, or other IndieWeb search services https://indieweb.org/search
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[tantek]
Marginalia search is listed on that page in Alternative Search Engines (twice lol, not intentionally) however that page is in need of some gardening and perhaps re-ordering to put more user relevant stuff ahead of developer stuff
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valerieflynn
Oh, okay. Just discovered it via a different Discord server post.
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[tantek]
All good! Was going to suggest adding it if it wasn't already there :)
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gRegor
Sorry for the spam everyone. The server mods in #libera are working on it.
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gRegor
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gRegor
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gRegor
Sorry for the spam everyone, should tamp down now that we're limiting posting to registered accounts. It shouldn't affect anyone in the channel already. We're working on cleaning up web chat logs as well as Slack and Discord.
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gRegor
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gRegor
Update: spam should be all cleaned up in Slack now. Working our way through Discord.
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gRegor
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gRegor
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gRegor
Sorry folks, Libera still struggling with this. We'll keep cleaning up and update.
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gRegor
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gRegor
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aaronpk
hey sorry for the spam, this channel is set to only allow posts from voiced users, so if you're on IRC you can quit and re-join and if you are on `/chat-names` you should get auto-voiced now
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