#indieweb 2026-01-12
2026-01-12 UTC
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burgeonlab Ekul, thank you for your compliment and checking my site. What's yours? (I'm on mobile IRC atm)
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Ekul @burgeonlab++ you can find mine at http://ekul.me
# burgeonlab omg. Your site loading and style is soooo cool!
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ajwatts I quite like both your sites - burgeonlab, you've put me onto the idea of weeknotes, which I'll start this week. :)
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# burgeonlab I'm flattered and thrilled that I got another person to start weeknotes—thanks for telling me ajwatts, what's your site? :)
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simpleauthority Ekul, just looking at your Monster chart. You really do drink a lot of that stuff! Hahaha.
# simpleauthority Good bot.
# simpleauthority Enjoy, LOL
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# stillawakeat3am Ekul: This is so damn cool!
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[jeremycherfas] I finally bowed to the inevitable and removed the comment form from my website. These Russian spammers have been playing havoc with the site, despite it being behind Cloudflare and I just don't have the luxury of trying to discover exactly how they are doing what they are doing. Maybe over the next couple of days I'll find the energy to write up the experience.
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# [jeremycherfas] I did not. I need to read up about that. Thanks.
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# [jeremycherfas] An additional problem is that because the spam hammers the RAM, making changes to the site often ends up with a 503.
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# solonovamax tbh, I personally actually find cf captchas on websites to be *incredibly* annoying, and half the time when I see them I will just close the site if I don't care a lot about that particular site
# solonovamax if you have to use it at all, at least make it so the captcha isn't for the entire site and instead only required for submitting a comment, and not for viewing the site in general
# solonovamax because whenever a site uses cf, I will constantly see captchas which waste like 30+ seconds of my time because I have a setting in my browser to isolate 3rd party cookies by 1st party domain (i.e. if A loads js from B which sets a cookie for B, if a site C loads js from B it won't be able to see the previous cookie), this is to prevent tracking but also leads to constant triggering of captchas
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# [jeremycherfas] The trade off for me is between making it easy to submit a comment or message me and overall site security. Thinking about it, I get so few non-webmention comments I could just remove that permanently. And it is easy enough to find my email and use that, without a form.
# [jeremycherfas] Forensically, I am interested in how the spammers avoid the CF “under attack” challenge and how they bypass my rudimentary honeypot. But I may never bother to find out.
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[Murray] Turnstile is useful because, in *most* cases, it requires no additional input by people. It can typically work out your not a bot just via how you fill out the form, so it should be as easy to submit as if it wasn't there at all. From our end, it has basically handled all spam on the sites we use it on, which include several fairly large NHS programmes that absolutely get search-driven traffic, and used to get a lot of spam
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# [jeremycherfas] I'm definitely interested if I can restrict it to the form alone.
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# girlonthemoon not sure where to ask this-- anyone know of sites/services that support login thru indieauth? i'm thinking like jamesg's artemis reader & pronouns.page
# girlonthemoon i'm curious
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Loqi IndieAuth is a federated login protocol for Web sign-in, enabling users to use their own domain to sign in to other sites and services https://indieweb.org/indieauth
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[tantek] girlonthemoon, looks like https://indieweb.org/IndieAuth_clients is the page you're looking for
# girlonthemoon awesome, thank you [tantek]!
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "login thru indieauth" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "login thru indieauth is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# [tantek] login thru indieauth is /IndieAuth_clients
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# rkta I'd prefer '->' over any unicode char.
# rkta Everybody has ASCII chars in their font, but maybe not all unicode chars.
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[KevinMarks] a bare > is also common
# rkta assuming the user lets you control the font and uses a client that enables using different fonts.
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