#indieweb 2026-06-04

2026-06-04 UTC
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[capjamesg] On the topic of category pages that has come up in a few recent HWC Europe meetups, does anyone have custom descriptions at the top of category pages?
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[capjamesg] I have one on https://jamesg.blog/steampunk-post to explain the context of the category, and a few other categories have these too.
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aaronpk I did that as a "pinned post" at the top of my tag pages
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thamara_k capjamesg I had considered this in the past, decided not to do it because I only have 4 categories which are pretty self explanatory. Same with tags. But I think for your`/steampunk-post` cat it makes sense, because it gives added context to the reader which would not have been apparent without it
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[capjamesg] Oooh I like that idea of a custom description being useful mainly if additional context is needed.
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[capjamesg] Does anyone have a /verify page like https://www.mollywhite.net/verify/ ? I wonder if it’s worth documenting.
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[capjamesg] I feel like I have seen a few of these in the wild.
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[capjamesg] My ideal implementation would be a text entry field that let you type in a username and choose a platform so I don’t have to enumerate every account I have though.
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[capjamesg] And it would be cool if a /verify page could say when you last used an account / domain so someone would know if your account has been repurposed.
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[artlung] My https://artlung.com/elsewhere/ de facto does that, including defunct links. But other folks use “elsewhere” I believe as “published elsewhere”
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thamara_k used to have all links listed on my contact page, which I removed because I wanted to make a separate verify page like Molly's. Still sitting in my (never-ending) to-do list
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thamara_k visiting https://slashpages.net/ was a mistake, lol
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brennan I do! brennan.day/accounts
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[tantek] What is elsewhere?
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Loqi elsewhere is a common IndieWeb building block, both on homepages for linking to other aspects of your identity elsewhere, and on posts for linking to copies of your posts elsewhere https://indieweb.org/elsewhere
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[tantek] More examples there ^
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brennan and then brennan.day/pages is my slash pages
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thamara_k brennan++ for the weeks code, didn't realise you were here in chat
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Loqi brennan has 2 karma in this channel over the last year (4 in all channels)
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brennan wait, i mean brennan.day/slash-pages
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brennan oh you're using the code from /weeks? I'd love to see it, I stole it off Buster Benson myself haha
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thamara_k I'll reach out when I'm done, gonna take a while lol
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brennan making that project for myself, the most crazy thing was finding out a massive asteroid could possibly hit earth on my 33rd birthday (99942 Apophis)
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thamara_k good way to go, if you ask me
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thamara_k On a serious note, seeing the celestial and world events on your page has inspired me to look out for similarish things when I make mine
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brennan awesome! :D it is very fun to try to see what can be known so far in advance
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[Trevor_Morris] [Brendan_Schlag] I *love* that The Weakerthans song!
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[aciccarello] [capjamesg] I have a short description on a few of my tag pages for context. https://www.ciccarello.me/posts/tags/indieweb/
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[aciccarello] I also have a few featured tags to help people find interesting collections https://www.ciccarello.me/posts/tags/
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[snarfed] me too, eg https://snarfed.org/category/emailtoheaven , https://snarfed.org/category/dream
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ZodiacalComet That heaven email is gold [snarfed]++
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Loqi [snarfed] has 7 karma in this channel over the last year (53 in all channels)
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[snarfed] yup, so many gems
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[tantek] had an interesting chat with [capjamesg] about indicating some degree of "presence" or "having visited recently" on a personal website, perhaps only of a small subset of people (like your friends), so at least you the owner of the site can see "who of my friends/colleagues" has visited what on my site recently or is currently "visiting"
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[tantek] sort of like Swarm checkins, but for your personal website, and implicit rather than explicit
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[snarfed] fascinating
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[tantek] imagine that you as the site owner could see a set of icons of your friends who are currently viewing your home page, similar to how Google Docs shows who currently has a document open
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[tantek] has anyone built anything like this? feels like it could make personal site more implicitly "social" without all the dopamine-addictive like/repost etc. reactions
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ZodiacalComet Sounds like a neat feature to have (for those that can have them)
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[tantek] also wondering what this "feature" is called (e.g. in existing implementations like Google Docs, or Discord channels, or Discourse forum active person indicators)
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[schmarty] "presence indicator" comes to mind.
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[capjamesg] [snarfed] You should write up that story one day 😄
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[capjamesg] (re: heaven)
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[tantek] what is presence
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "presence" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "presence is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] I thought we had a page for this specifically on how people indicated their own level of "presence" on their websites, e.g. a little green dot next to the chat systems that they happened to be "on" currently
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[tantek] yes [schmarty] it is a form of presence indicator, it's also similar to an implied "guests" lists, like a guestbook but realtime and without needing to "sign it"
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jak2k When I hear "presence", I think of Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP) and online/busy/… in chat apps in general. I also think of that Discord feature what friends are playing.
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jak2k I'd maybe call the feature of collaborative editors "Who's here" or collaborator indicator, but that's not fitting for viewing a website.
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jak2k What about "reading indicator"?
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[tantek] "reading" assumes an intent / activity, I'm not sure anything more can be implied than "visitor" which is already an established term in /analytics
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gRegor phpbb calls it "who is online"
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[tantek] yes that's a more accurate summary/description. I do like the simpler virtual metaphor of "who is here?"
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[tantek] it's also something that could reflect *which* page on your site someone is on (current tab being viewed) if they have multiple tabs open
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[tantek] sort of akin to "which room are they in"
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[tantek] I feel the VR folks should already have terms for this sort of thing
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[tantek] This is a good user-centric "ideal 'CMS'" post that still does touch on some protocol stuff. Very personal perspective yet I find myself agreeing with a lot of it: https://lordmatt.co.uk/technology/the-email-social-media-and-indieweb-node-i-need-that-will-probably-never-exist-that-i-think-authors-would-love/ — very indieweb IMO
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[tantek] anecdotal, but looks like Medium is blocking Internet Archive. I keep getting "Job failed" when I attempt to manually archive a single Medium article. Anyone else have trouble doing so?
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