#indieweb 2026-06-13

2026-06-13 UTC
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[tantek] Is the indieweb a retro-futurist movement?
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[tantek] follow-up from Search engines customization discussion this morning, instructions posted (including one screenshot) https://tantek.com/2026/163/t1/google-news-books-scholar-search-in-browser
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Loqi [preview] [Tantek Çelik] How to add Google News, Google Books, and Google Scholar search directly in your browser, to search those sites with fewer steps, and less chance of being distracted. One of my hobbies is contributing to Wikipedia, and more so, creating new Wikipedi...
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[artlung] I like to think we are forward looking. And that this work is a continuation of existing work to make and maintain the personal web. But the fact people can say "retroweb" in earnest and view "indie" webs with nostalgia does imply the retro part.
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[artlung] but a truly retro movement would reject much of modernity. And we do NOT do that. "We" want new cool stuff along with 88x31 gifs and web rings. "We" also want bridging and web components and modern tooling. A person who wants to create the cutting-edgest tech and aesthetics fits in here just as much as someone who wants to stand up telnet servers that ascii-ize a movie.
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[artlung] "We" in quotes implies something I value a lot - we don't all have to agree about what indieweb *is. _We are inclusive* (emphasis mine)._
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[capjamesg] I agree with [artlung] re: forward looking. I think we should look to the past to see what we can learn but we should instead be focusing on building a better future.
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gmb_ Seems like many embrace a retro-futurist styling/aesthetic, but the core principles are control, freedom, privacy, etc.
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Deakster Hi - I am new here
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Deakster If anyone is interested - my site is very indie: https://fshot.org/
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Turboblack <Deakster> nice page, man
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Turboblack brennan hello
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Turboblack also, hi2all
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[Al_Abut] Retro futuristic implies forward-looking, right? Otherwise it's just… retro.
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[Al_Abut] I like the retro-futuristic framing. Taking the best of the old and not just keeping it alive but taking it forward.
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[Al_Abut] There's a whole movement in car culture called “restomods” that it reminds me of. Taking old cars and giving them modern components, or making modern new cars with older principles, tech or styles.
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[Al_Abut] My favorite one modernizes my dream car when growing up - the Porsche 914 from the 70’s.
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[Al_Abut] https://youtu.be/bIZqSNkkteE
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Turboblack 80th maybe?
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gRegor Welcome, Deakster!
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[social] Retro futurism is past (say 1970s) idea of the future. This is how we will live in the future from times in the past.
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[Al_Abut] Yep.
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[Al_Abut] I think 90’s and early 2000’s me could imagine web pages being accessible on tiny portable devices with high quality photos and video.
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[Al_Abut] The same way that Kubrick had the astronauts using tablets:
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[Al_Abut] https://www.reddit.com/r/MovieDetails/comments/8knibu/in_2001_a_space_odyssey_they_use_tablet_computers/
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[Al_Abut] I guess the retro part for me as an 80’s and 90’s kid is the idea that “computer literacy” and basic programming was a fundamental skill that anyone could and should learn in order to participate in our fancy information superhighways
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[Al_Abut] Instead it looks like we’re going into the Star Trek future of invisible natural language computers and soon the Star Wars future of everyday robotics
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[tantek] [artlung] I didn't say retro. I said retro-futurist, and looking to the future is why
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[tantek] There was no advocacy for a "truly retro movement"
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Turboblack it calls downgrade
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Turboblack https://elpis.ws
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[tantek] [Al_Abut] ++ made most of the points I would make :)
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Loqi [Al_Abut] has 7 karma in this channel over the last year (60 in all channels)
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[Al_Abut] I do love pure retro too. That's basically what I do when I unplug and go into pure analog mode. Old school dslr camera, mechanical watch, pen and paper, print magazine or newspaper, etc.
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "IndieWeb Book Club: June 2026 - Broad Band: The Untold Story of the Women Who Made the Internet by Claire L. Evans" https://www.benji.dog/articles/indieweb-book-club-june-2026/ (from https://artlung.com/indienews/40c608a829a44a60753b2fe7bba2e138)
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[tantek] [Al_Abut] I feel pure analog is something else entirely, which I also appreciate
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Substack Writers, You Need a Website!" https://elizabethtai.com/2026/06/10/substack-writers-you-need-a-website/ (from https://artlung.com/indienews/de2fd5acd51b05547ddeeebf3aac3d36)
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[tantek] True
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