#indieweb 2026-09-04

2026-09-04 UTC
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burgeonlab [aciccarello]: oh wow, that link to octothropes looks interesting... need to check it out!
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[Sophia] [tantek] I think I looked at it int he past and ended up using open street map.
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[tantek] like on your website?
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[Sophia] https://porthales.art/map
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[Sophia] I put portal destinations into my city storm hole drains - so 10083 drains have a risk level and portal
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[tantek] nice
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[Sophia] not sure if that is the use case you were looking for, but happy to help you augment some city data
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[tantek] yes that counts!
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[tantek] feels like we should capture that on map examples
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[tantek] perhaps more #indieweb-dev however it might be good to document such map examples and which providers people are using to show mapping information on their personal sites
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[aciccarello] burgeonlab, I still need to figure out if I want to go all-in on octothorpes. It seems like a fun discovery option and the vision is quite expansive. I've played around with custom element mapping to read from microformats without needing special markup.
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[aciccarello] But it doesn't sound like the maintainer is open to a webmention based trigger so I would need another option to publish. I don't like the options that rely on views triggering parsing.
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aciccarellotest Testing mentioning aciccarello from web to slack
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[aciccarello] Oops wrong channel
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[Mike] I had some problems with getting Octothorpes to work on WordPress, I got most of the way there but couldn't bring it home, there were weird server errors, and the maintainer was totally disinterested in helping figure it out so I eventually gave up trying.
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burgeonlab [Mike] I think there was some mention of a plugin for WP users? Anyhow, I'm not too keen on any of the additional components or JS injections. The basic HTML line that allows the server to fetch the tag/page details and the 'harmonizer'' seems relatively straight forward. I might give it a shot when I get some time because as [aciccarello] said, it does look like a fun discovery tool.
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[aciccarello] Do we have a category for these kinds of tag aggregators?
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[aciccarello] what is a definition?
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Loqi A definition is a post or section of a page quoting a new or interesting dictionary definition, often included in a glossary or digests such as weeknotes https://indieweb.org/definition
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[aciccarello] burgeonlab, feel free to add yourself there!
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[aciccarello] What is tag aggregation?
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Loqi tag aggregation is a feature of some search, indexing, and bookmarking sites that collect tagged posts from many different sites, including IndieWeb sites, and present them for exploration by topic, and sometimes related or highly correlated topics https://indieweb.org/tag_aggregation
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[aciccarello] tag aggregation << [[Octothorpes]]
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Loqi ok, I added "[[Octothorpes]]" to the "See Also" section of /tag_aggregation https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=113388&oldid=107976
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Loqi [aciccarello] has 14 karma in this channel over the last year (53 in all channels)
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burgeonlab oh cool! thanks [aciccarello]++
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[aciccarello] Well, I got an custom harmonizer working with Octothorpes but now I need to figure out why I won't use it without me being very explicit 🤔
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[aciccarello] Well, I really need to go to bed. More things to work on in the future. At least I cleared out a bunch of open wiki tabs and added some fodder for the newsletter
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[burgeonlab] Sleep well [aciccarello]!
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jeremy @capjamesg Sorry. Have to cancel. Managed to lose my phone in a taxi this morning and although I can see it no-one is handing it in or calling me.
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[capjamesg] Jeremy no worries. I hope you find your phone soon 😭
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jeremy Me too. No slack available. Sorry for spamming here.
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[capjamesg] 🙏
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[Mike] [burgeonlab] will move this over to #indieweb-dev
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[Sophia] [aciccarello] now I am curious about what you are doing with octothorpes
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[aciccarello] Trying to avoid getting too technical but essentially I'm trying to figure out how to let octothorpes recognize the information on my page without me needing to change a bunch on my site
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[aciccarello] Octothorpes has a bunch of cool idea like https://docs.octothorp.es/harmonizers/ though it seems like there are still some gaps
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[aciccarello] I'd love to have one file that tells http://octothorp.es how to understand my site, maybe a couple header tags, and then my posts automatically show up in octothorpe tags
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[aciccarello] Here's the pages octothorpes has read on my site. Most of them used their default parser which led to things like "LinkedIn icon" appearing in the title for the post 🤦 https://octothorp.es/domains/https%3A%2F%2Fciccarello.me
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[Sophia] want to hop on zoom for a sec?
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[aciccarello] Would love to! Unfortunately I'm already on a work call. 🫠
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[Sophia] ping me in cafe if you free up - I'd be happy to pair
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morganwebdev I wont name them but I did a zine exchange with a fellow Indieweb'er and it was incredible fun culture exchange. For context, the wiki has information about zines and events we have held (or been hosted at) related to zines. Hope your day has a zine in it!
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[capjamesg] morganwebdev If you know of any web-related zine links, please put them on the zines page!
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[capjamesg] I have been adding a few today and hope to add more as I find them.
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doesnm [capjamesg]: did you know about elpis?
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[capjamesg] Looking at their site, I have been here before.
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[capjamesg] I haven’t looked at any of their zines though!
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doesnm http://elpis.ws/
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[capjamesg] 👀
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doesnm maybe i should add it to HamsterCMS's See more
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doesnm HamsterCMS << https://elpis.ws
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Loqi ok, I added "https://elpis.ws" to the "See Also" section of /HamsterCMS https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=113408&oldid=103812
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doesnm oops
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doesnm oh, i still have access to doesnm.cc tho this domain are gone
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doesnm i mean account
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morganwebdev1 I will definitely add any Zine related stuff to the wiki that come to mind. Our starter/stub-like pages arent bad for an intentionally obscurantist topic at times :D
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[capjamesg] zine << [https://callmemanatee.neocities.org/zines/personalwebzine.pdf Welcome to the Personal Web zine] (PDF)
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Loqi ok, I added "[https://callmemanatee.neocities.org/zines/personalwebzine.pdf Welcome to the Personal Web zine] (PDF)" to the "See Also" section of /zine https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=113410&oldid=113407
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morganwebdev1 One of the things I distinctly remember from IndieWeb Zinefest was how people shared stories of how zines are some of the most long lived items in their possession sometimes
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morganwebdev1 like computers can get replaced, other stuff changes, somehow the zines despite often mostly being paper survive
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morganwebdev1 thats kinda how you know it can be an art form
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[capjamesg] Permanence is a good point.
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[capjamesg] I hadn’t thought about that before.
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gRegor I read a post from the stream channel a week or two ago about someone who is purposefully printing out their website annually and has it in a binder for longevity
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[capjamesg] Do you have a link gRegor?
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gRegor not currently, can try to find it
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gRegor https://michaelharley.net/posts/2026/08/06/what-happens-to-our-blogs-when-we-die/
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[capjamesg] Thank you!
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[tantek] perhaps worth mentioning on /longevity
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[snarfed] ^ that site has pretty comprehensive silo backfeed, and not via Bridgy, I wonder how
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[snarfed] https://michaelharley.net/colophon/ just says "self-hosted," and I'm not seeing a code link yet
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