#indieweb 2026-09-06

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[Mike] thing is clearly unhealthy. But the same time, I have a whole galaxy if friends who refuse to use anything else and it’s my only way of staying in touch with them. I gave it up for a couple of years and totally lost touch with a whole bunch of people, including not finding out that one friend had passed away. I’m kind of mulling over what to do about it.
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[Mike] I'm having a real Issue with Facebook right now. It’s enshittified find beyond belief, Requires heavy duty filtering just to keep my feed from being a morass of posts from people I don’t know or care about, pages I don’t follow, and ads for things I’m not interested in, and most recently — this is one of the many complaints things that was in the rant I decided not to post — last night gave a bigot access to post their hate in my feed.
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[tantek] That's rough. Are you able to use a subset like only specific private groups?
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morganwebdev I think we are all sort of dealing with long-term digital glue from these various platforms. Its always an evolving, changing experience I find. Gentleness with oneself is something Ive tried to apply
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morganwebdev @tantek - I will check out the argument machine. something about bluesky gives me weird feelings, like its like a hot-boiled concentration of people who still wished there was a main character everyday? I dont know what to say. Obviously lots of great people there too and people cross-posting/having a presence there because of work
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morganwebdev I think in my more over-eager sharing days I shared a bunch of stories about how I had trouble giving up some platforms that were turning bad for me. Just because of reasons like FOMO, stuff like Mike what you said about learning about someone having a major life event. TLDR; Resolved that maybe its better if im not inundated with life events + many have quit socials now anyways
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morganwebdev Re Silo Quit I should edit the wiki with a recanted or returned silo quit. I wanted to quit linkedin so bad and then found that like 4-5 actually good people have ONLY linkedin for work basically or unwieldy foreign SMS and I wanted to send them some messages. I found some semi useful info about work from it. Ive learned to ignore the insane headlines news ticker. TLDR; its bad, and likely not going to get me a job, but im back there I
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morganwebdev guess...
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[tantek] Yes it's ok to also record your silo-pauses on the silo quit page
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[tantek] What is a silo quit
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Loqi silo quits are public statements by individuals announcing they have quit posting on or using various silos with no intention to return. Sometimes people take a temporary break or soft quit, AKA a social media break or social media detox https://indieweb.org/silo-quit
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[tantek] Right there in the dfn :)
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morganwebdev Nice. Ok I made an update to the wiki. @capjamesg's post outlines some of the core reasons I had when I left it, but Ive returned temporarily at least. Just hope my experience normalizes feeling ok about conflicting thoughts about some of these age old social media platform accounts
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[tantek] I have never quit LinkedIn. I have also never posted there. Seems easier that way
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[tantek] Also the "feed" there is so laughably bad that it's worse than a late night rando cable tv channel
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[tantek] So bad that it's pretty easy to click it off
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morganwebdev I mean I feel a similar way, and have a similar stance, I still took psychic damage from the headlines and occasional exposure to the feed.
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[Mike] I walked away from LinkedIn a little over a year ago, always with the intention of going back because there are people on there who I like interacting with and it did actually help me make some good connections… Never anything that helped me professionally, but I met some extremely interesting people. But, just the same, for a year now I haven’t been able to bring myself to look at it again.
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[tw2113] technically I got my current job through linkedin, but it was more a message to a former coworker who passed along my resume to their HR
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[tw2113] so now he's a coworker again
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[tantek] Yeah that's about the only usecase I have for LinkedIn. Helping former co-workers get jobs
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morganwebdev Nice. Ive organized someone to stay with when I visit New Zealand again though the platform, as they were one of the people I described who basically did no socials and just had an SMS number otherwise. I gained lodging in this social quest!
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morganwebdev Right now Im experimenting with a browser plugin to delete certain things from the experience if I have to return
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[tantek] I'm wondering if it would be helpful to have a "search engine" along with a keyboard shortcut to look something up in the WayBack machine. Ah, looks like the form accepts keywords in addition to URLs
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[tantek] hmm, post only so this is a bit weird
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petermolnar huh. Interesting idea: "Site Is Closed on Sundays". https://v7.robweychert.com/
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fafau06 oo that's so cool
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fafau06 mandatory touching grass day
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wturrell the Closed on Sundays site perhaps ought to return http 503 rather than 200 (depending on how it's made - I can't find out because it's closed)
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wturrell re: Bluesky - one thing it has going for it is the ability to view posts/timelines without logins - *although* it seems (is this new?) you have to sign in to "join the conversation" (read replies)
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wturrell so I never created a bluesky login. would quite like to get rid of Twitter, although I'm slightly nervous if someone else re-registers the name and uses it for spam. I did "silo-quits" as a slash page on my own site.
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[jgmac1106] long time all, I am going to spend the weekend trying export my Known database and uploads into my main website, with a heavy dose of vibecoding
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[jgmac1106] all 12,647 posts from Known now archived on my domain...Had to download the database, and the uploads, and rebuilt it...Can't lie Codex did most of the work, but deeply relieved. I thought much of this work was gone forever: https://jgregorymcverry.com/archive/
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wturrell https://wturrell.co.uk/blank/
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[aciccarello] Welcome back [jgmac1106]!
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hi1 hi
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[tantek] Wow a wild [jgmac1106] appears! jgmac1106++
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Loqi jgmac1106 has 1 karma over the last year
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Buka Hi there!
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Grav Bridgy Fed Plugin" https://trucs.hophop.be/fr/blog/plugin-grav-bridgy-fed-fediverse (from https://rmendes.net/bookmarks/2026/02/02/grav-bridgy-fed-plugin/)
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[jgmac1106] Hello all, figured I would share since I was working on the website
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[jgmac1106] thx for the shoutout Tantek and Buka
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[tantek] Were you able to setup redirects form your old Known permalinks to the archive?
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[jgmac1106] I haven't got there yet, but it's on the list of things to do before deleting my Known app and sql database, once that is done I am going to delete everything
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[capjamesg] Maybe relevant to the admin tax page? https://winnielim.org/journal/running-a-personal-website-is-not-fun-anymore/
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[capjamesg] “This site is over 10 years old and this is the first time attacks are happening consecutively. Why? AI, obviously. I feel dirty even typing the word out. It is being used to find vulnerabilities at a speed and depth that didn’t occur before.”
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[tantek] yep basically what I was talking about in my small sites and security post
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[capjamesg] admintax << [https://winnielim.org/journal/running-a-personal-website-is-not-fun-anymore/ running a personal website is not fun anymore] <blockquote>“This site is over 10 years old and this is the first time attacks are happening consecutively. Why? AI, obviously. I feel dirty even typing the word out. It is being used to find vulnerabilities at a speed and depth that didn’t occur before.“</blockquote>
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Loqi ok, I added "[https://winnielim.org/journal/running-a-personal-website-is-not-fun-anymore/ running a personal website is not fun anymore] <blockquote>“This site is over 10 years old and this is the first time attacks are happening consecutively. Why? AI, obviously. I feel dirty even typing the word out. It is being used to find vulnerabilities at a speed and depth that didn’t occur before.“</blockquote>" to the "See Also" section of /admin_tax https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=113433&oldid=107762
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wturrell to be honest, any sort of vulnerability with WordPress would have been quickly exploited in the pre-AI days. just too big an attack surface.
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[tantek] I suspect it's gotten much worse in the past 3-6 months due to LLM/Agent based attacks. I suspect folks in #indieweb-wordpress are aware of this and working on it accordingly
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wturrell in WP's favour, they're very good at patching old versions – https://wordpress.org/documentation/article/wordpress-versions/ – and core patch updates are automatic (unlike Drupal…) and also you can still have updates working with sites that use version control.
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[tantek] perhaps WP folks are also using LLMs to find and fix their own vulns faster
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doesnm well hermes+some model can really hack anyone...
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doesnm there was news
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[tantek] link?
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jak2k Has anyone in the IndieWeb already experimented with a federated search engine or a standard for one?
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doesnm https://unit42.paloaltonetworks.com/autonomous-ai-cyber-attack-campaign/
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doesnm jak2k: i'm experimented with yago (yacy in go)
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Loqi friendly reminder jak2k, doesnm, would you mind moving this more technical conversation (federated, YaCy) to #indieweb-dev? thanks!
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doesnm https://hunt.io/blog/thailand-ministry-finance-targeted-with-hermes-ai-agent
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[jgmac1106] For my edu106 class this semester we were going to use GitHub pages, using the indieweb template from [kevinmarks] and learn HTML through Codex, but now the new "Sites" experiment launched in ChatGPT and we are tying that out to build pages: https://edu106-new-literacies.cyberdi-7246.chatgpt.site/
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sagitari uhhh hi people from the planet Earth
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sagitari do yall have any curious websites?
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petermolnar hi sagitari; there's a list of us at https://indieweb.org/chat-names , many linked their personal sites. Or you can take a look https://kumu.io/snarfed/indie-map for something more interactive to explore our pages.
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "IndieWeb Carnival September 2026: Parenting" https://winther.sysctl.dk/indieweb-carnival-september-2026-parenting/ (from https://artlung.com/indienews/c5440322db9d91be797139d09b518bb5)
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