#indieweb 2026-10-03

2026-10-03 UTC
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simpleauthority Hi all, by any chance has anyone successfully used micro.blog’s iOS app to post to their micropub endpoint? When I put in my domain, it opens my browser and goes to my auth endpoint as expected, but then redirects back to micro.blog with “something went wrong” and no further info. Maybe something is wrong with my implementation. But, on that note, any iOS app recommendations for posting?
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doesnm_ does micro.blog app even works for non-microblog accounts?
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simpleauthority It's supposed to, yes
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simpleauthority Ok, I see why now. micro.blog is not using PKCE, which is required. So, my options: 1) make my indieauth server lenient or 2) find something else. Guess I'll find something else... :P
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[manton] What is requiring PKCE? It’s true we’ve been slow to update http://Micro.blog with PKCE support, because the code predates PKCE… I’ll get this prioritized!
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[manton] I just fixed some other issues with posting to blogs outside of http://Micro.blog, so makes sense to get this fixed too.
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[capjamesg] Has anyone been doing any web-siting today?
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aaronpk 👋
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[trovster] what is web-siting
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "web-siting" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "web-siting is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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aaronpk tho I am working on indieweb tools rather than my own website
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aaronpk but it's nice to be getting through my backlog of work
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[trovster] Oh, I've been working on my site all afternoon… I've built some calendar views for my content. Quite happy with them. For example: https://www.trovster.com/timeline/calendar/2026-09 and https://www.trovster.com/movies/calendar/2026-09
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[capjamesg] What is making?
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Loqi 📝 create in the context of the indieweb refers to the act of and UI for creating a new post, in its simplest form, a new note, or more broadly creating anything on or for your personal site! https://indieweb.org/making
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fafau06 been drafting some posts for blogtober ! but im just planning on posting like twice a week tho lol
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[tantek] [capjamesg], is web-sitting when you're taking care of someone's website while they're away, like babysitting?
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[capjamesg] 😄
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[social] I did a little web-siting already as I added a new post and included a Flickr photo for the first time in a long time using Flickr’s embed. It took a little fussing to get the right embed option for it to work properly.
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[social] Next up is possibly tweaking search for multi-term queries.
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valerieflynn So is Web-Sitting a real thing or were you guys joking around?
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IWDiscord <v​alerieflynn>
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valerieflynn Would that be considered Web-Sitting?
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IWDiscord <v​alerieflynn>
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valerieflynn I'm the Webminister for a SCA Barony's website. I handle updates, edits and changes to the nonprofit's website and Google Calendar.
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[capjamesg] I said web-siting 🙂
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[capjamesg] What is web-siting?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "web-siting" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "web-siting is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[capjamesg] web-siting is anything you do on or with your personal website, for example writing a blog [[post]], creating a new [[page]], writing some [[HTML]] or [[CSS]], doing [[maintenance]], or anything else related to your site.
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Loqi ok
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valerieflynn Oh, I see! Yeah, I do that a lot. Nice to know the term for it. Thank you!
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[capjamesg] I don’t know if this is a recognised term but I like it.
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valerieflynn It is now 🙂
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valerieflynn I recognize it. So, technically it's recognized.
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[capjamesg] I think web-sitting (two “t”s) has a nice ring to it too, but would be more for caring for another person’s/org’s website.
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[capjamesg] I
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[capjamesg] I have been looking for an alternative to webmaster.
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IWDiscord <v​alerieflynn>
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valerieflynn Ah, yeah. I learned that technically a Webmaster is someone proficient in HTML and CSS. I'm not that. Closest I can call myself is a web designer. I've been doing website stuff since the late 90s / 2000s. But I never really did coding.
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valerieflynn I went from using Yahoo Site Builder, a poor man's Frontpage to learning WordPress.
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valerieflynn Recently added Publii, thanks to IndieWeb.
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IWDiscord <v​alerieflynn>
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IWDiscord <v​alerieflynn>
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valerieflynn But not sure what I would call myself. I like the term webweaving. But I should look up the definition of it.
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IWDiscord <v​alerieflynn>
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valerieflynn A term for the intermediate web designer who I am would be helpful to describe what I do.
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[capjamesg] Yeah, web weaver might be my favourite.
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valerieflynn What is web weaver?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "web weaver" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "web weaver is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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valerieflynn What is webweaver?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "webweaver" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "webweaver is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[social] Today turned into a lot of web-siting. A post. A change to my search for my blog so it now accepts `"many terms"` and even do not include `-mess`. I thought that was it and got an urgent request from my host to update my WordPress for my dad’s memorial site, which took a bit of work as there were many things to update. In letting my host know, they came back with it was still a v5 WP site but in a directory that doesn’t serve the sub-domain
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[social] where my dad’s site is served. I found the old (move into new host directory from 2020), zipped it, deleted it, and removed everything pointing to it on the host site.
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[snarfed] I've been doing some work on quote and reply controls in Bridgy Fed, and it got me thinking about how we think about those in the indieweb
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[snarfed] a lot of it probably just boils down to moderating incoming webmentions like usual. eg you can choose which incoming replies, quotes, reposts etc to accept and show on a given post
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[snarfed] they'll still show other quotes/reposts of your posts though, even if you haven't approved them. afaik we don't yet have a webmention/mf2-based way to request a post quoting/reposting you to "detach" it
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[snarfed] did I miss any prior indieweb art here?
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Loqi misses any prior indieweb art here too
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[tantek] lol
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[snarfed] er, sorry, by "they" above, I meant social readers that consume and redistribute your posts. they'll show the replies, likes, etc that you've approved and are publishing mf2 for
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Loqi hey [snarfed]: we try to keep jargon (mf2) out of this channel to make it more inviting to newcomers, can you move this to #indieweb-dev?
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[tantek] silo quote/reply interactions are quite different from IndieWeb. like on IndieWeb, you can't top someone from copy/pasting and including your post a a quote and linking to it
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[snarfed] sigh yeah 🤷‍♂️
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[tantek] yeah the underlying tech is not the interesting part, Loqi is right 😂
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[tantek] however, on my site, and thus on any "profile", I should be able to "delete" or block any replies from anyone
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[snarfed] ^ meant that for loqi. decentralized social networks like the fediverse and atmosphere (bluesky) are much more like the indieweb. those networks have controls, but it's still possible to violate those controls and reply, quote, etc even if the original post says you shouldn't
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[snarfed] clients and apps will generally honor the controls and not show the "illegal" interactions, but they may still be visible on their author's timeline, or in other clients, etc
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[tantek] sure, however, unlike indieweb, those systems don't allow you to *block* or delete/hide replies on the view of your posts / profile
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[tantek] or if they do it is very cryptic
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[snarfed] they do now, and it's much less cryptic than historically
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[tantek] like very bad UI
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[snarfed] setting controls and detaching quotes, replies, etc is much more normal and usable in modern bluesky, mastodon, and some other fedi platforms
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[snarfed] (now)
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[tantek] also they force you to "default show" instead of say "default don't show, original poster has to opt-in to each reply being shown"
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[tantek] so by default you have to play whack a mole which sucks
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[snarfed] again, maybe historically yes, but not any more. defaults are much more configurable now
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[tantek] like if you go traveling and don't "watch" your profile, your posts could be filled with trolls
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[tantek] this is why those systems kinda suck tbh
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[snarfed] I'd encourage you to try modern mastodon and bluesky again, UX for these controls has evolved and improved a lot
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[tantek] I'd rather only show replies from those mentioned in posts by default, then let me as the original post author opt-in to having other replies show up
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[tantek] I mean how do I set that in BridgyFed?
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[snarfed] feature request 😁
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[snarfed] very doable natively
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[tantek] like if site A shows my post (federated from my site) and there's nasty reply from site B, how does site A know to not show site B's reply?
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[snarfed] are you asking about indieweb? or...?
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[tantek] like in a hashtag search on site A
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[snarfed] oh, fediverse
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[tantek] yes
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[snarfed] there are a few mechanisms, the main one is GtS's "interaction policies," FEP-044f and one or two others
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[snarfed] (#indieweb-dev territory)
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[snarfed] but basically, replies/quotes/reposts ask permission from the original author (via AP extensions, UX is usually automated), and then that original author can later revoke permission ("detach") at any time
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[snarfed] the fediverse plumbing is...complicated, and inefficient, as usual...but it works
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[snarfed] so yeah some of the equivalent in the indieweb is the usual per-site moderation. but I wonder if there's an opportunity for us to brainstorm a similar kind of "request to detach" mechanism
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glitzeor4444 Off-topic, but I've updated my website (moved back to WordPress), and I feel like it has so much more personality now even if the layout's pretty basic 😂
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glitzeor4444 https://patsitive.co.nz
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[snarfed] glizeor4444++ congrats! looks great!
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Loqi glizeor4444 has 1 karma over the last year
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[snarfed] ^ that kind of "request to detach" mechanism would always be best effort in the indieweb, as it is in the fediverse and atproto, not a guarantee. but if 99% of clients, apps, etc are well behaved, then they'd honor it and detach the quote (etc) for all of their users, even if the quoter themselves is a bad actor and refuses
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[tantek] Right, if it gets built into CMSs and hosted services, then it becomes "effective"
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[tantek] Also what would "detach" really mean in an indieweb context? Like don't show my content in your quote or reply context? Don't even link to me? Something else?
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