#dev 2016-07-25

2016-07-25 UTC
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aaronparecki.com edited /p3k (+31) "/* Location */" (view diff)
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aaronparecki.com edited /p3k (+924) "/* Itching */ some thoughts on locations / venues" (view diff)
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aaronparecki.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:swarm checkins with photos and comments.png]]""
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aaronparecki.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:swarm checkin post part 1.png]]""
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tantek.com edited /2016/NYC2 (+119) "add FB POSSE copy of official event URL" (view diff)
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adactio.com edited /events/2016-07-27-homebrew-website-club (-15) "/* Where */" (view diff)
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adactio.com edited /events/2016-07-27-homebrew-website-club (+16) "/* Brighton */" (view diff)
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petermolnar php-lol: I can't block-comment a function with /* */ because there is a regex in the function, which contains */ which closes the comment :D
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Loqi petermolnar: tantek left you a message 2 days, 20 hours ago: earliest use of multiple ^n (e.g. ^1 ^2) end notes/links I found on my site, from 2010-12-05: http://tantek.com/2010/339/t2/trailer-demo-tron-evolution-xbox-360 enough of a self-publishing plain text pattern that I'll likely use that in my markdown fork
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voxpelli the /* comments are a pain in such a way
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petermolnar normally I only use that for: a, function documentation; b, commenting out big blocks temporarily
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voxpelli petermolnar: many text editors have a short cut for adding a // in front of every line and to remove them again
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petermolnar I know, geany does that as well
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voxpelli I always do that to comment out big blocks temporarily
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voxpelli only do the /* for docs
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voxpelli (but rarely do such docs :P )
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petermolnar docs can be useful
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petermolnar not just for others, for your future self
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petermolnar http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/files/nodes/3288/strip.jpg
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voxpelli I do docs, I just rarely do them through JSDoc-style comments
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voxpelli I mostly document the API directly in the readme, because the modules are so small that it's enough
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aaronpk lol I've had that comment thing happen before
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aaronpk also when I'm temporarily commenting out a function that has comments in it
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voxpelli yeah, cmd + shift + 7 to the rescue! :)
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petermolnar voxpelli emacs is just one step from there :D
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petermolnar https://xkcd.com/378/
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petermolnar splitting wordpress functionalities from my theme to separate plugins, round 2: 3 plugins so far, 2 more coming...
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miklb oh, yay. Got Quill running in a Fluid instance
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Loqi does a happy dance!
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miklb twirls Loqi
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aaronpk miklb: neat!
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miklb aaronpk yep. Fluid has an option to pin the app to the menubar, so now just a click away
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miklb http://cdn.miklb.com/images/New_Post_2016-07-25_11-24-49.png
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rMdes_ I tried to get Quill running at Dreamhost but decided to move my domain on a decent vps first
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rMdes_ i want to have like quill.rmendes.net and get used to compose using quill more often
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voxpelli rMdes_: any reason to self-host Quill? been thinking myself that as long as I own the API and the storage I don't need to own the clients
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rMdes_ the only reason i found was cosmetic so i can have all the tools I need tied to my domain
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rMdes_ i want to be able to talk to other people and show them how I organized my tools with my domain
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rMdes_ without the need to switch to another domain to use other tools, even the client to publish to my site
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miklb ugh. TravisCI seems to be backlogged
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miklb odd. my last micropub post added a lang front mattter, never happened before. And not my lang
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miklb I stand corrected, it normally sets the lang to en, but this one set it to sv
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voxpelli miklb: yeah, um, by default it sniffed language and picked English or Swedish
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voxpelli I'm not sure if I've changed the default yet, but one can at least override it
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miklb just curious why it would have sniffed sv this time
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voxpelli Because sniffing is hard, you probably sounded Swedish :P
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miklb <swedish_chef.gif>
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voxpelli I would ideally want to explicitly define language in the request, but that's not possible today and even when possible some clients like OwnYourGram just can't do it
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tantek.com edited /events/2016-07-27-homebrew-website-club (+8) "/* San Francisco */ add self" (view diff)
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jeena.net edited /events/2016-07-27-homebrew-website-club (+9) "/* Where */" (view diff)
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loqi.me created /Hover (+108) "prompted by tantek and dfn added by KevinMarks" (view diff)
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KevinMarks Language sniffing is hard. I remember getting a lot of cebuana and Welsh false positives
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tantek !tell GWG could you go through previous (incl 2014) IWC NYC FB events (all linked from our wiki pages) and invite the people you met there to IWC NYC2: https://www.facebook.com/events/1219906251394239/ ? Thanks!
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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voxpelli KevinMarks: I told my sniffer to only check the specified languages to make it easier for it
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voxpelli Distinguishing between eg Nordic languages is probably fairly hard otherwise
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KevinMarks The one I used before did a first pass based on unicode ranges, then some other heuristics. These days you probably throw a neural net at it. Or ask Google
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KevinMarks The problem is still the monoglot assumption. If I quote some French or Greek, there isn't usually a representation for that in the auto ines
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KevinMarks Voxpelli - do you want to write the language issue up for the micropub spec?
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tantek KevinMarks - yet you're likely to quote multiple languages in more structured e-content right? Not in a summary or name?
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voxpelli tantek: I only do language detection on e-content as there's more content there
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voxpelli KevinMarks: Not sure if it's a Micropub spec issue – hence why I added it as an mf2 issue last time
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KevinMarks https://twitter.com/kevinmarks/status/492009144233119744
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Loqi [@kevinmarks] @chrisbrogan @evanpro I pronounce Phở tái exactly like the French for "armchair"
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voxpelli When we can parse language, then we can also save language
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KevinMarks If I had spelled out fauteil that would be 3 in a note
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tantek wat
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KevinMarks It's a pun. Also a self deprecating now about my terrible Vietnamese pronunciation
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KevinMarks The voxpelli/Stephanie booth case of summary in one language and post in another is worth considering. Yes, in general you can do this in html in an e- field
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jorge.at.anteris.net edited /ikiwiki (+358) "/* IndieWeb Examples */" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /ikiwiki (+182) "distinguish between primary site usage and secondary/additional/subdomain site usage" (view diff)
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www.boffosocko.com edited /events/2016-07-27-homebrew-website-club (+312) (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2016/NYC2/Planning (+118) "/* Food */ saturday sunday line items" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2016/NYC2/Planning (+45) "/* Questions */ facilities" (view diff)
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@BillSeitz @6loss @interstar @johnrobb See WebMention (and Bridgy) http://webseitz.fluxent.com/wiki/WebMention (twitter.com/_/status/757668570570563584)
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tantek ChrisAldrich++ for jumping in and making HWC LA happen this week!
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chrisaldrich baby steps, baby steps... it helps to have a tentpole of IWC-LA here in November to build up to...
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@elpep Testing my webmention endpoint discovery : https://webmention.rocks FTW. Many thanks, @aaronpk (twitter.com/_/status/757674510904619008)
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upon2020.com edited /events/2016-07-27-homebrew-website-club (+11) "/* San Francisco */" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2016/homepage (+282) "which one of two possible websites" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /database-antipattern (+212) "featured image - thank you @internetofshit" (view diff)
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