#dev 2016-08-10

2016-08-10 UTC
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cweiske.de edited /static-site (+114) "/* Sending Webmentions */" (view diff)
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cweiske aaronpk, does webmention.rocks have a computer-readable list of test URLs and expected endpoint URLs?
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cweiske so that I can simply use that list as base in my unit tests?
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cweiske instead of manually checking each test URL and find out myself?
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cweiske didn't find any. I've opened a bug
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cweiske aaronpk++ for webmention.rocks discovery test endpoints
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Loqi aaronpk has 1082 karma (2 in this channel)
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cweiske just fixed a couple of bugs in my Services_Linkback library
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calumryan.com edited /event (+141) "/* Calum Ryan */" (view diff)
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cweiske https://packagist.org/packages/pear2/services_linkback is now finally available on packagist
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@call_user_func [New]pear2/services_linkback Pingback+webmention client and server implementation https://packagist.org/packages/pear2/services_linkback (twitter.com/_/status/763356737562746880)
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cweiske.de edited /Atom (+109) "/* Projects */ add hfeed2atom" (view diff)
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petermolnar ::deskhead:: https://codex.wordpress.org/Function_Reference/convert_chars
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GWG petermolnar: No comment
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Loqi GWG: petermolnar left you a message 2 days, 4 hours ago: I've found a way to turn WP into a static generator: my theme is using (Twig) templates, therefore I can force an action to set up everything like it was a request and just render the output into a file
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adactio.com edited /2016/Brighton (+55) "/* Participating */" (view diff)
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miklb in fairness, that function predates WordPress it looks like
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GWG Afternoon
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GWG I am thinking that I am stuck on Bridgy Publish.
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miklb how so?
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GWG It is a very simple plugin
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GWG But I am trying to make it work for me, which is a bigger job.
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GWG First, I am trying to take advantage of new features, then improve the interface, then write code to trigger it.
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GWG I am afraid that I am stalled and need to put it aside for a bit.
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GWG I don't know how to identify stalling
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miklb personally, I've found at those points, I just focus on creating content and that sometimes that leads to seeing what itch needs the biggest scratching
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www.boffosocko.com edited /push_notification (+641) "added examples, included link to safari documentation" (view diff)
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GWG I hate using SNAP for POSSE
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miklb what is SNAP
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Loqi SNAP is a POSSE plugin for WordPress and stands for Social Network Auto Poster https://indieweb.org/SNAP
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gRegorLove GWG: You're writing a Bridgy Publish plugin or one exists already?
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cweiske whoooo https://webmention.rocks/test/1
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Loqi [Webmention Rocks!] Discovery Test #1
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cweiske commentpara.de succesfully sends out webmentions now
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aaronpk hah nice
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cweiske but my mf2 markup seems to be broken
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aaronpk 2 things
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aaronpk add p-name on the same class as e-content
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aaronpk add a u-url pointing to itself
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cweiske both sounds unnecessary, but I'll do it
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aaronpk the p-name issue is because right now it's using the implied p-name rules
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aaronpk i'm not a huge fan of the implied p-name in most cases, since it tends to lead to stuff like this a lot, but i don't have a better solution to suggest for the parsing algorithm either
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GWG Gregorlove, I am rewriting one. I published it last year
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cweiske can I put u-url on the canonical link tag?
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aaronpk what do you mean? like a rel=canonical?
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aaronpk it'll have to be inside the h-entry for it to work but sure, it doesn't have to be an <a> tag
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cweiske yes, rel=canonical
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cweiske did someone ever use <html class="h-entry">?
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aaronpk pretty sure i've seen that
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cweiske oh. not allowed according to emacs' nxml mode
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aaronpk huh
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cweiske better now: https://webmention.rocks/test/2
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Loqi [Webmention Rocks!] Discovery Test #2
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aaronpk 👍
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aaronpk Loqi should parse that here too now https://commentpara.de/comment/14.htm
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Loqi [Anonymous] Test from commentpara.de using the PEAR2_Services_Linkback2 0.3.0 library
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cweiske quill's "Post" button doesn't do normal browser behavior on ctrl+click
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aaronpk yeah it's all JS
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cweiske so, all webmention.rocks test up to https://webmention.rocks/test/21 work with commentpara.de
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Loqi [Webmention Rocks!] Discovery Test #21
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aaronpk awesome
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cweiske https://commentpara.de/comment/17.htm
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Loqi [Anonymous] Like #17 Anonymous likes https://webmention.rocks/test/5.
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aaronpk s/rel=u-like-of/class=u-like-of
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cweiske thanks
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cweiske https://commentpara.de/comment/17.htm
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Loqi [Anonymous] Like #17 Anonymous likes https://webmention.rocks/test/5.
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cweiske loqi probably doesn't like likes
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aaronpk if you send the webmention again it'll update on the webmention.rocks page
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cweiske ah
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cweiske ok
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aaronpk yeah Loqi doesn't do anything special with likes, so he uses the same name/content rules as other posts. this one is missing a p-name again
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cweiske https://webmention.rocks/test/5
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Loqi [Webmention Rocks!] Discovery Test #5
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cweiske looks fine now, that like
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gRegorLove I've done <html class="h-feed">
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aaronpk nice
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gRegorLove Should work the same for h-entry
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gRegorLove Handy if you want to use the <title> for the p-name
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aaronpk yeah the only reason to include a p-name and/or p-content or p-summary is as a fallback for consumers that don't understand likes
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cweiske I wonder what happens if multiple people like the same URL as the same anonymous user
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cweiske depends on the receiver if it deduplicates I think
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aaronpk i think webmention.rocks (and probably most receivers) dedupe on source URL rather than author URL
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cweiske then commentpara.de works fine :)
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cweiske you don't dedupe likes on author url: https://aaronparecki.com/2015/07/14/7/swat0
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Loqi [Aaron Parecki] Live demo of #SWAT0 at IndieWebCamp 2015 https://aaronparecki.com/2015/07/14/7/photo.jpeg
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aaronpk yeah i probably should
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cweiske does tantek display likes received via webmention automatically?
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cweiske doesn't seem so. maybe he moderates
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aaronpk he doesn't display any webmentions right now
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cweiske known does not like svg avatar images.. http://known.kevinmarks.com/2016/this-is-interesting-s8a-is-that-a-german-pirate-party#comments
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Loqi [Kevin Marks] This is interesting: http://svgur.com/s/8A is that a German Pirate Party logo? #indieweb
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cweiske nobody deduplicates likes on author url.
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aaronpk i suppose it could be significant that someone "likes" a post more than once
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aaronpk like if they post a like several years apart
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aaronpk i'm not even sure any silos support that though, so de-duplicating on author URL probably makes the most sense
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@aaronpk @anildash Working on it: Responses -> https://www.w3.org/TR/webmention/ API -> https://www.w3.org/TR/micropub/ (twitter.com/_/status/763473049836322816)
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loqi.me created /lost_infrastructure (+234) "prompted by KevinMarks1 and dfn added by KevinMarks1" (view diff)
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kevinmarks.com edited /lost_infrastructure (+575) "Add comparison table" (view diff)
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kevinmarks.com edited /events/2016-08-10-homebrew-website-club (+28) "/* Where */ fix SF location" (view diff)
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