#dev 2016-08-25

2016-08-25 UTC
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cmal.info created /home_server (+3533) "Populated" (view diff)
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petermolnar.net edited /personal_cloud (+283) "/* Solutions */" (view diff)
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petermolnar.net edited /personal_cloud (+414) "/* Use-cases */" (view diff)
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cmal.info edited /Main_Page-fr () "(-1636) Mise á jour des templates pour la page principale" (view diff)
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www.boffosocko.com edited /events/2016-08-24-homebrew-website-club (+614) "+ LA & SF notes; + LA picture" (view diff)
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www.boffosocko.com edited /Homebrew_Website_Club (-89) "LA is now on a regular semi-monthly schedule" (view diff)
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tantek awesome!
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tantek fortnightly even
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cmal.info edited /Wallabag (+849) "More info about project" (view diff)
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aaronparecki.com edited /swag (+164) "add shirts in stock" (view diff)
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ahmetmert.me edited /2016/NYC2/Projects_List (-74) "/* Participants from Tito */" (view diff)
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ahmetmert.me edited /2016/NYC2/Projects_List (+63) "/* Remote Participants */" (view diff)
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www.boffosocko.com created /Canopy (+933) "basic details for a new project written by AngeloGladding in Python" (view diff)
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www.boffosocko.com edited /projects (+416) "new project: Canopy" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /silo-quits (+462) "/* Silo quitters 2015 */ Dan Gillmor effectively quit Facebook 2015-01-31 (not subsequent posts, explicit statement)" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2016/NYC2/Projects_List (+22) "/* Official Guest List */ update #s" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /bookmark (+553) "How to POSSE (stub with example of using another Twitter)" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Twitter (+96) "/* Features */ note last link gets the link-preview, in contrast to Twitter's own docs" (view diff)
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bear for folks who are always looking for ways to make their sites more secure -- https://pokeinthe.io/2016/08/25/observatory-by-mozilla-a-new-tool/
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miklb I guess a C+ is a good start
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miklb bear quick question. I'm thinking about moving from Digital Ocean to Linode. Should I have any issues with a new SSL cert from LetsEncrypt?
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cmal probably not, but I guess it's safer to export/import your account keys on your new letsencrypt setup
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miklb cmal thanks. I'll research it a little more. Actually expires tomorrow. Not sure I can move server tonight.
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tantek definitely take notes! that's a really good question
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cmal miklb: I don't think it's forbidden to create a new certificate for the same domain (even with a different account) as long as the validation procedure goes fine
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cmal (I think I did that once, but maybe my certificate had accidentally expired)
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cmal also what are you using as an ACME client? personally I find https://github.com/Neilpang/acme.sh matches my needs (does not require root, automatically register cronjobs to renew your certificates)
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cmal what is let's encrypt?
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cmal what is letsencrypt?
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Loqi Let’s Encrypt is a new Certificate Authority intended to be free, automated, and open https://indieweb.org/letsencrypt
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miklb cmal I'm not familiar with ACME
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cmal ACME is the protocol Let's Encrypt and StartEncrypt (I don't recommend the latter) use for automatic validated creation/renewal of certificates
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cmal there's many implementations in many languages to get certificates from Let's Encrypt, but the official implementation certbot requires root privileges to run
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aaronpk depends on how you use it
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aaronpk I run it in certonly mode which does not require root
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aaronpk because it's not editing config files or restarting my web server
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aaronpk or setting up its own web server
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cmal aaronpk: last time I tried setting up certbot I had trouble as an unprivileged user
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aaronpk like i said, it depends on how you use it
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cmal I was doing certonly but I don't remember exactly what was the problem
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aaronpk my trick is that I have nginx serving the .well-known path so that it doesn't have to set up its own server or shut down the site while it's renewing
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aaronpk https://aaronparecki.com/2015/12/07/8/letsencrypt
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Loqi [Aaron Parecki] Setting up HTTPS with Letsencrypt.org
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cmal yeah, this only makes sense ^^
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cmal off-topic: is there a French-speaking Indieweb channel somewhere?
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tantek cmal not that I know of, however xtof used to be around
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cmal thanks for the answer, I'll be squatting on #indieweb-fr then, until some people feel like joining me ^^ (will add it on the French wiki)
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tantek good call!
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bear miklb - did you get your answer from above? like cmal said, it shouldn't matter
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bear I would just set it up on linode and generate a new one
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@voxpelli Think I just fixed a bug that caused some weird crashes over the last few days in my Webmention endpoint, sorry to all affected by it (twitter.com/_/status/768908227589181440)
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www.boffosocko.com edited /tagline (+517) "+Brainstorming ideas; /fun" (view diff)
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miklb bear I did and thanks. I think I'm going to try and move my main site tonight anyway, so the cert is basically expired.
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miklb Now to decide whether to stick with Debian proper or move to Ubuntu
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bear during a server move under any kind of time pressure... the wrong time to switch distros
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bear IMO
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miklb good point
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bear unless the switch improves (i.e. decreases) the pain - stick with what you know and switch later
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bear I moved from one LTS of ubuntu to another in my server move and even that caused it to triple in time because of subtle changes to tools and dependencies
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www.boffosocko.com edited /bookmark (+560) "Emoji in Twitter POSSE" (view diff)
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tantek.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:2016-238-fb-99-plus-notifications.png]]""
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tantek.com edited /silo-quits (+420) "2016-08-16 LynnCyrin closed LinkedIn account" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /code-of-conduct (-43) "rename IndieWebCamp->IndieWeb per July 4th transition, update citation/credit URL, draft->living" (view diff)
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rascul wow my site generates in under a second now instead of 4 seconds now that i built a mechanism to copy things instead of generate them
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rascul if i prefix a file or directory with _ then it's just copied with _ removed instead of going through and trying to parse it and stuff
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tantek.com edited /code-of-conduct-examples (+72) "WHATWG Code of Conduct is also CC0 and generally positively worded" (view diff)
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rascul it's only 5 test posts but like 80 other files
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bear nice work rascul
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rascul well 4 seconds isn't really right, more like 1-2 seconds, but it seems like it took forever
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rascul i clearly didn't do a proper benchmark heh
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tantek rascul - indeed, anything >200ms is noticeable
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tantek and less than that feels nearly instant
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bear anything that reduces the friction between writing and posting ... a win