#dev 2016-09-09

2016-09-09 UTC
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petermolnar in case I want to store webmentions in frontmatter+md, will the from: (name, email, url), for: URL, type: [repost, reply, etc], date: [date] in the YAML and the content in markdown be enough as a bare minimum?
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petermolnar is there anything else I need to store to have sufficient info on the reaction?
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petermolnar maybe the from url...
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petermolnar that's rather important :D
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cweiske in case you find missing info, you can re-fetch them from the original url
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petermolnar does the happy dance
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petermolnar I have a standalone webmention receiver which does webmention to YAML+markdown + to email
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petermolnar I do need to make it async though
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cweiske wishes you had extendet stapibas for that
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petermolnar I know :/
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petermolnar I know I should/should have
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petermolnar and I may still will, but I have just too many programming languages/projects in my mind at the moment
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cweiske :)
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petermolnar and I just wanted to test this
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petermolnar think of it as a hackathon demo :D
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cweiske so until now you couldn't receive linkbacks?
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petermolnar nah, I've written a wordpress webmention plugin for myself as well
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petermolnar but I want to get rid of the wordpress dependencies
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cweiske https://petermolnar.net/ is wordpress?
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petermolnar yes
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petermolnar although a bit hacked
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cweiske do you display webmention replies?
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petermolnar not any more
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petermolnar I used to, but right now, I want things to be as minimal as possible
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petermolnar (I mean incoming; outgoing, I do display, since those are posts of mine )
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petermolnar I will probably put them back, but with wordpress, there are certain nightmare scenarios
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cweiske ok
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petermolnar eg. comments don't have their own proper permalinks
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cweiske i mean incoming since I just replied to one of your posts
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petermolnar and if you want to make a conversation under wp terms, a reply to a reply should be a comment as well
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petermolnar hm
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petermolnar ah
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petermolnar the wp-webmention-again is async
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petermolnar to at the moment, it takes at least a minute to actually receive it for me
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cweiske cron-based async?
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petermolnar but no, I do not display them
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petermolnar yes
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petermolnar I could not do proper async with wordpress
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petermolnar otherwise the wp-cron will get brutally hammered
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petermolnar interesting
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petermolnar it seems like I can't parse your response
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petermolnar there is something wrong with my wp plugin :/
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cweiske petermolnar, do you have type-specific feeds?
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cweiske I would like to subscribe to your articles only
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petermolnar I do
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petermolnar but I have 2 article feeds: it related and personal
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cweiske hm. tt-rss subscribed to /feed/ when I pasted the /articles/ url
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cweiske <link rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="Peter Molnar RSS Feed" href="https://petermolnar.net/feed/" />
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petermolnar https://petermolnar.net/category/article/feed/
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cweiske it's not linked on https://petermolnar.net/category/article/
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petermolnar I forgot to put it back in the header
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petermolnar it's only linked in the "follow" button at the top of the content
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petermolnar hm
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petermolnar it appears to be a broken
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petermolnar this is not my day
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petermolnar fixed
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GWG petermolnar: I've been looking at your webmention plugin
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GWG I've been trying to build a pingback/webmention plugin.
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miklb petermolnar is that YAML webmention receiver going to be public code? Would be interested to look at that for my jekyll site
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petermolnar yes
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petermolnar but it's old school prodecural PHP and is not by today's standard at all
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petermolnar https://github.com/petermolnar/webmention2email - consider it pre-alpha
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voxpelli Me and aaronpk are looking at making our endpoints post to our sites through Micropub: https://github.com/voxpelli/webpage-webmentions/issues/37
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voxpelli just a though if someone else wants to decouple it in a similar way :)
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GWG voxpelli, I am still trying to build the ideas for it.
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miklb voxpelli I think I mentioned it, but I'm going to look at storing the webmention as a datafile like I'm doing with responses from bridgy
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voxpelli miklb: cool, I'm going to work on the push to Micropub part in my endpoint at some point, but I don't plan on using it myself on the receiving point
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voxpelli except for maybe on some new page just for dogfoodingh
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Zegnat KevinMarks: I am having some luck with my own extension for rel-me checking. Using a background script to do the actual checking, which means I should be able to add some centralised caching and hopefully soon replace the whole external indiewebify call ☺
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GWG If my synchronous webmention handler returns json on success, what should be in it?
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KevinMarks Nice zegnat - are you using the fetch() api?
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Zegnat Not currently. Right now the background script is using your XHR to indiewebify still
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Zegnat Only had my lunch break to work on it. Will pick up work again when I get home tonight.
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petermolnar note for php-fpm users: it is surprisingly easy to take down a php-fpm service with just ~50 parallel requests, even if it's just a queue reception for webmentions; if you're using nginx, use rate limiting: http://nginx.org/en/docs/http/ngx_http_limit_req_module.html
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GWG I have returned
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GWG So, my webmention plugin is feature complete with the existing one.
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GWG Now I have to figure out how to incorporate the mf2 and type stuff.
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GWG petermolnar, re wp-cron and async webmentions, how bad did it end up being?
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cweiske he didn't use it. he used a "real" cron
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GWG I think he tried both.
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petermolnar I don't do "proper" WP cron, because it's an aberration; I've been calling WP from the system cron since I've been using WP
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cweiske the wp cron is a ... workaround
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cweiske since most people don't know/cannot install a real cronjob
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GWG WP cron triggered by Cron is still WP cron
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