#dev 2016-11-30

2016-11-30 UTC
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gRegorLove Huh, MediaWiki now has a Notifications page, inbox style
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altsalt.net edited /Planning (+94) "IWC:Sea #FirstPost" (view diff)
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loqi.me edited /Woodwind (+43) "[schmarty] added "https://martymcgui.re/2016/11/30/005844/" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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@hvdsomp #methinks Citation can happen by pingback (e.g. webmention) as long as metadata about the assets involved is auto-discoverable #SDSvoc (twitter.com/_/status/803875535805960193)
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KartikPrabhu err what does that mean?
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Zegnat I think it means letting someone know you have cited them, which only works if the citation on your page can be discovered through an algorithm to figure out exactly what you cited?
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loqi.me edited /reader (+89) "julianf added ""Self-Hosting kylewm's Woodwind Indie Reader" https://martymcgui.re/2016/11/28/124055/" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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loqi.me edited /silo.pub (+177) "/* See Also */ new section" (view diff)
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julian.foad.me.uk edited /reader (+0) "/* See Also */ Move the "Legacy" heading so it won't apply to future entries appended to the see-also list." (view diff)
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Zegnat aaronpk, is there some reason http://indieweb.org does not redirect to https://indieweb.org ? I find myself constantly using a mixture of the two when providing people with links
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cweiske aaronpk says some images are not linked via https, so they will break when all is https
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cweiske https://chat.indieweb.org/2016-08-27#t1472323018911000
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cweiske ah, there it is: https://chat.indieweb.org/2016-08-27/1472322974420000
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Loqi [aaronpk] my primary (only?) reason for not redirecting the wiki to https always was that a bunch of the pages hotlink http images
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Zegnat Ah, thank you cweiske!
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cweiske was surprisingly hard to find with chat search :/
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j4y_funabashi .
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tantek.com edited /events/2016-11-30-homebrew-website-club (+580) "/* What */ Topics section with 2017-01-01 commitments, indiemark, demos, posting about news" (view diff)
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KevinMarks What do people who have split their sites up into multiple services use for logging and tracing between them?
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aaronpk manually inspecting log files...
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KevinMarks Looking at this from datawire that works cross language https://www.datawire.io/distributed-logging-express-js-request-winston/
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Loqi Distributed logging with Express.Js, Request, and Winston
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loqi.me edited /language (+44) "/* See Also */ new section" (view diff)
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KevinMarks Though still assumes that you are building both sides of the service yourself
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tantek what is IndieAuth
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Loqi IndieAuth is a way to use your own domain name to sign in to websites — it's like OpenID, but works with services you likely already use, and is much easier to setup https://indieweb.org/IndieAuth
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tantek aaronpk - per your point about IndieAuth protocol support - there is no obvious mention of the IndieAuth protocol at the top of https://indieweb.org/IndieAuth
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aaronpk :sigh:
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tantek so there's no way I could implement my own endpoint for woodwind to use anyway
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tantek what is the indieauth protocol?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "indieauth protocol" yet. Would you like to create it?
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aaronpk suspects that after WebSub, writing up IndieAuth as a proper spec will be next on his list
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tantek that problem
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aaronpk indieauth protocol is [[IndieAuthProtocol]]
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Loqi ok
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loqi.me created /indieauth_protocol (+30) "prompted by tantek and dfn added by aaronpk" (view diff)
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tantek so somehow cweiske did it
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aaronpk it's linked at the bottom of /IndieAuth
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aaronpk the spec is kind of split up into a bunch of wiki pages at the moment
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tantek indieauth protocol is /indieauth-for-login
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tantek lol double-redirect
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aaronpk oops
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tantek ok captured https://github.com/themattharris/RelMeAuth/issues/6
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tantek that's good enough for a start
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loqi.me edited /Wikia (+56) "tantek added "http://undsci.berkeley.edu/article/howscienceworks_01" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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loqi.me edited /Wikia (+32) "tantek added "http://evolution.berkeley.edu" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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jeena.net edited /events/2016-11-30-homebrew-website-club (+9) "/* Göteborg */ fixed indie event url" (view diff)
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werd.io edited /2017-01-01-commitments (+20) "/* Ben Werdmuller */" (view diff)
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tantek anyone here familiar with or have evaluated the proposals / ideas at webpki.org?
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tantek in particular aaronpk, ben_thatmustbeme, cweiske, snarfed, and anyone else looking at IndieAuth type stuff
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aaronpk interesting, will have to review. i hadn't seen that before.