#dev 2017-01-25

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tantek what is AMP?
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Loqi Accelerated Mobile Pages (AMP) is a Google-led project that speeds up a subset of HTML through caching and dependencies on google: https://indieweb.org/AMP
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tantek AMP << https://twitter.com/seldo/status/824039873757646849 "Stop it, Google. You are breaking the web."
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@seldo Jesus fuck AMP is annoying. Stop it, Google. You are breaking the web. (twitter.com/_/status/824039873757646849)
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loqi.me edited /AMP (+99) "tantek added "https://twitter.com/seldo/status/824039873757646849 "Stop it, Google. You are breaking the web."" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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Loqi ok, I added "https://twitter.com/seldo/status/824039873757646849 "Stop it, Google. You are breaking the web."" to the "See Also" section of /AMP
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gRegorLove From the replies on there, what is encrypted.google.com vs regular google.com?
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tantek no idea
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gRegorLove Both are https. Huh.
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kevinmarks.com edited /Internet_Archive (+411) "/* IndieWeb Examples */" (view diff)
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vanderven.se martijn edited /events/2017-01-25-homebrew-website-club (+108) "Netherlands had to cancel today, back in two weeks." (view diff)
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idolstarastronomer.com edited /IPv6 (+318) "/* Hosting */ add AWS which expanded offerings in Fall 2016" (view diff)
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idolstarastronomer.com edited /web_hosting () "(-534) /* Google Drive */ Google drive no longer offers hosting. Suggested Google Cloud Storage." (view diff)
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@KathyLeeDrupal Hey! What do you think of Webmention: Merge with Vinculum module?? I'm trying to build consensus! https://www.drupal.org/node/2844685 (twitter.com/_/status/824301034755551232)
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tantek.com edited /events/2017-01-25-homebrew-website-club (+7) "/* San Francisco */ rsvp" (view diff)
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loqi.me created /baikal (+113) "prompted by tantek and dfn added by petermolnar" (view diff)
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gRegorLove Twitter's username / API stuff is annoying me today.
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gRegorLove Reply to a reply, included both @-names in my original. Bridgy Publish to Twitter and they add the second username again. https://twitter.com/gRegorLove/status/824316981503467522
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@gRegorLove @girlfrmmars @Dutchface Shoot, I must be decrepit then. @Dutchface HAPPY BIRTHDAY, WHIPPERSNAPPER. (twitter.com/_/status/824316981503467522)
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gRegorLove Original: https://gregorlove.com/2017/01/girlfrmmars-shoot-i-must-be/
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Loqi [gRegor Morrill] @girlfrmmars Shoot, I must be decrepit then. @Dutchface HAPPY BIRTHDAY, WHIPPERSNAPPER.
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gRegorLove Also their "Add to lists" interface still doesn't sort alphabetically.
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vanderven.se martijn edited /events/2017-02-08-homebrew-website-club (+371) "/* Where */ Netherlands is definitely happening in two weeks." (view diff)
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amberwilson.co.uk edited /events/2017-01-25-homebrew-website-club (+20) "/* Brighton */" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com created /Thunderbird (+108) "prompted by tantek" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /Thunderbird (+39) "link dfn" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /CardDAV (+1) "period so dfn works" (view diff)
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jkphl.is edited /events/2017-01-25-homebrew-website-club (+126) "/* Photos */" (view diff)
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loqi.me created /vCard (+160) "prompted by tantek and dfn added by tantek" (view diff)
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loqi.me edited /vCard (+54) "/* See Also */ new section" (view diff)
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@KathyLeeDrupal Hey! What do you think of Linkback: Implement Webmentions? I'm trying to build consensus! https://www.drupal.org/node/2846789 (twitter.com/_/status/824324848671395840)
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tantek Hey! How many times have we seen that tweet?
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gregorlove.com edited /events/2017-02-08-homebrew-website-club (+13) "Bellingham: indie event, rsvp" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /events/2017-02-08-homebrew-website-club (+9) "/* Bellingham WA */ Facebook event" (view diff)
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aaronpk Hm that's an ifttt link in the tweet... suspicious
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tantek.com edited /events/2017-01-25-homebrew-website-club (+6) "fmt Brighton, comment out Göteborg" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Twitter (-11) "/* POSSE to Twitter in general */ 23 for a while now" (view diff)
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calumryan.com edited /events/2017-01-25-homebrew-website-club (+120) "/* Photos */" (view diff)
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@gRegorLove @cdevroe Testing a Twitter reply that Bridgy should attempt to send a webmention for. (twitter.com/_/status/824345634354319361)
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KevinMarks Is the twitter reply doubling related to the invisible canoe changes?
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gRegorLove Not sure what that is.
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gRegorLove The usernames-as-metadata thing? Probably.
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gRegorLove I replied to a photo tweet the other day. I guess two people were tagged in it. Their usernames were added to my tweet as well
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tantek canoe?
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KevinMarks A tweet with a lot of @'s in is referred to as a canoe
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tantek citation needed
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aaronpk wat
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aaronpk tests++
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Loqi tests has 1 karma in this channel (8 overall)
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aaronpk so glad i have tests for XRay. i'm refactoring a bunch of it.
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ben_thatmustbeme what is a canoe?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "canoe" yet. Would you like to create it?
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aaronpk what is invitee?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "invitee" yet. Would you like to create it?
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aaronpk what is invite?
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Loqi An invitation is an optional feature of an event post (an event with invitations), or a reply to an event post that also notifies a list of invitees that they've been invited to the event, or a special case of that, an RSVP to an event that also invites additional people to it https://indieweb.org/invite
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aaronpk the "invitee" property never makes sense to be plaintext right? It's always going to be a URL?
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aaronpk i feel like we're still missing a lot of real world experience with events/rsvps
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ben_thatmustbeme i could see it being as a name
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ben_thatmustbeme or an h-card
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aaronpk h-card right
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aaronpk but i don't think there's much you can do with just a string name
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aaronpk compared to for example "category"
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ben_thatmustbeme name for someone not online or not indieweb at least
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ben_thatmustbeme my brother swears off social web sites, but if i'm organizing a family party i want to make sure its known he is invited
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aaronpk hm yeah okay
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ben_thatmustbeme but then this is still without implementation experience as you said
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ben_thatmustbeme maybe everyone already has facebook at least
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ben_thatmustbeme inviting people i'm not friends with on facebook too
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ben_thatmustbeme or "+1"s
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tantek ben_thatmustbeme: i believe FB event UI has the ability to invite people purely by email
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aaronpk whee deleting code
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tantek.com edited /WordPress_with_Bridgy (+315) "dfn, fmt outline" (view diff)
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www.boffosocko.com edited /WordPress_with_Bridgy (+1651) "additional outline and details" (view diff)
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tantek homebrewbrum << https://twitter.com/homebrewbrum
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loqi.me edited /homebrewbrum (+52) "/* See Also */ new section" (view diff)
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Loqi ok, I added "https://twitter.com/homebrewbrum" to the "See Also" section of /homebrewbrum
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gregorlove.com edited /Loqi (+48) "/* Commands and Queries */ subheads for wiki, interactions, other" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /Loqi (+141) "/* Wiki */ what time is it for username" (view diff)
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jkphl.is edited /events/2017-01-25-homebrew-website-club (+56) "/* Nuremberg */" (view diff)
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KevinMarks_ Citations for canoe: https://twitter.com/felixsalmon/status/823565209193353216
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@felixsalmon @NoceraBV @JoshRosner how did @FoxNews get into this canoe? (twitter.com/_/status/823565209193353216)
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KevinMarks_ https://twitter.com/markgongloff/status/819650116843958274
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@markgongloff @labboudles @taralach @liamdenning @LionelRALaurent @ShiraOvide you did it, you closed the loop. now let's sink this canoe and go home (twitter.com/_/status/819650116843958274)
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KevinMarks_ https://twitter.com/SarahDemp/status/818846474041753600
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@SarahDemp @vagabondartist @geekgirldiva @eleventhirtyate @harrievanesch @murphquake @brian_nov can I please leave this canoe (twitter.com/_/status/818846474041753600)
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calumryan.com edited /events/2017-02-08-homebrew-website-club (+331) "/* Where */ Adding London event (now fortnightly)" (view diff)
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tantek KevinMarks, that's, hilarious
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tantek what is a canoe?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "canoe" yet. Would you like to create it?
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calumryan.com edited /events/2017-02-08-homebrew-website-club (+141) "/* RSVP */ Added London RSVPs" (view diff)
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www.boffosocko.com created /JetPack (+21) "redirect" (view diff)
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tantek KevinMarks, probably worth documenting canoe at least as an antipattern (seems people get annoyed)
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KevinMarks_ A canoe is a long chain of replies on twitter, with many people @'d into it. Most commonly referred to as something people want out of. The twitter UI changes to auto fill and hide those being replied to has been called the "invisible canoe".
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loqi.me created /canoe (+272) "prompted by tantek and dfn added by KevinMarks_" (view diff)
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Loqi ok
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@pypi_updates2 Flask-IndieAuth 0.0.1: Allow requests to be authenticated with https://indiea... http://pypi.python.org/pypi/Flask-IndieAuth/0.0.1 (twitter.com/_/status/824387881796046848)
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tantek go ahead and add the examples / citations as see alsos via the "<<" syntax too, can clean up later
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www.boffosocko.com edited /WordPress_with_Bridgy (+3421) "Overview; more outline; prerequisites; POSSE" (view diff)
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KevinMarks_ canoe << https://twitter.com/SarahDemp/status/818846474041753600, https://twitter.com/markgongloff/status/819650116843958274, https://twitter.com/felixsalmon/status/823565209193353216
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@SarahDemp @vagabondartist @geekgirldiva @eleventhirtyate @harrievanesch @murphquake @brian_nov can I please leave this canoe (twitter.com/_/status/818846474041753600)
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loqi.me edited /canoe (+194) "/* See Also */ new section" (view diff)
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Loqi ok, I added "https://twitter.com/SarahDemp/status/818846474041753600, https://twitter.com/markgongloff/status/819650116843958274, https://twitter.com/felixsalmon/status/823565209193353216" to the "See Also" section of /canoe
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@PythonJo PyPI latest- Flask-IndieAuth added to PyPI http://pypi.python.org/pypi/Flask-IndieAuth #jo #amman #JPY (twitter.com/_/status/824389173574406145)
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@GeofryDryer Flask-IndieAuth added to PyPI: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/Flask-IndieAuth (twitter.com/_/status/824393333791461377)
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tantek.com edited /WordPress_with_Bridgy (+0) "/* Bridgy with WordPress.org */ presumed typo - should be .com right?" (view diff)