#dev 2017-02-04

2017-02-04 UTC
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tantek this search is better
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tantek hmm
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tantek js;dr << https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vertical=default&q=tantek.com%20%28%22Javascript%22%20OR%20%22js%22%29%20-from%3At
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loqi.me edited /js;dr (+121) "tantek added "https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vertical=default&q=tantek.com%20%28%22Javascript%22%20OR%20%22js%22%29%20-from%3At" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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Loqi ok, I added "https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vertical=default&q=tantek.com%20%28%22Javascript%22%20OR%20%22js%22%29%20-from%3At" to the "See Also" section of /js;dr
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tantek what is Ember?
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Loqi EmberJS is a JavaScript framework that uses MVC (model view controller) in the browser (using Mustache as its templating language) https://indieweb.org/ember
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tantek what is Ember.js?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Ember.js" yet. Would you like to create it?_J
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tantek.com moved /EmberJS to /Ember.js "canonical usage on home page"
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tantek ember << https://twitter.com/manton2/status/827575815663665154
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@manton2 Taking a fresh look at this codebase. I had mixed feelings removing Ember.js, but now that I’ve started it’s the right call. Not a good fit. (twitter.com/_/status/827575815663665154)
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loqi.me edited /Ember.js (+73) "/* See Also */ new section" (view diff)
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Loqi ok, I added "https://twitter.com/manton2/status/827575815663665154" to the "See Also" section of /Ember.js
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tantek interesting data point / anecdata about shortlinks and usability (usage) http://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/3224661
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tantek.com edited /Ember.js (+241) "criticism, see also" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Ember.js (+42) "short form" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /js;dr (+773) "Twitter: comments regarding js;dr and related, Dead To History Examples, Readability" (view diff)
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tantek what is a short link
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "short link" yet. Would you like to create it?_K
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tantek what is a shortlink
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Loqi shortlink is the use of a short-domain to create a link that redirects to (often much) longer link, popularized on Twitter, and used in permashortlinks for indieweb POSSEing https://indieweb.org/shortlink
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tantek shortlink << http://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/3224661
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loqi.me edited /shortlink (+43) "tantek added "http://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/3224661" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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Loqi ok, I added "http://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/3224661" to the "See Also" section of /shortlink
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tantek.com edited /Accelerated_Mobile_Pages (+160) "/* Criticism */ add via blockquote tweet" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /repost (+19) "/* History */ reblogging subhead since that's what this is primarily about" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /repost (+24) "/* Barnaby Walters */ note article repost example" (view diff)
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tantek hmm chat logs kinda broken?
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tantek https://chat.indieweb.org/2017-02-03 has # links that point to 2017-02-04 (note day)
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tantek oh boy https://chat.indieweb.org/2017-02-04/1486168081905000
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Loqi [tantek] this is an interesting article and specific definition of "blogspamming" https://danielmiessler.com/blog/digg-and-reddit-please-learn-the-difference-between-original-content-and-blogspam/...
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tantek (note day)
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tantek Houston, we have a timezone problem!
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tantek.com edited /repost (+483) "/* Challenges */ Avoiding blogspamming, capture article about it, and link to IRC discussion" (view diff)
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sknebel URLs are in UTC, timestamps on the date pages in whatever you've selected on the page
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tantek hmm - I thought all the chat permalinks were hardcoded to Pacific
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aaronpk the URL actually only cares what the timestamp is, and the timestamp is unix time so does not have a timezone
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sebsel hm. https://chat.indieweb.org/1837-02-04/1486168081905000
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Loqi [tantek] this is an interesting article and specific definition of "blogspamming" https://danielmiessler.com/blog/digg-and-reddit-please-learn-the-difference-between-original-content-and-blogspam/...
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sebsel backdating
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aaronpk lol yeah
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tantek.com edited /Internet_Archive (+512) "Known plugin, apparent limitation" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Internet_Archive (+73) "/* Known */ issue filed for apparent limitation" (view diff)
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tantek wow this is messed up: https://blog.sucuri.net/2017/01/spotlight-website-security-photographers.html
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tantek what is WordPress security?
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Loqi One of the most important things for new users to do is to properly secure their Wordpress installation https://indieweb.org/WordPress/Security
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tantek WordPress security << https://blog.sucuri.net/2017/01/spotlight-website-security-photographers.html
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Loqi There was an error: missingtitle, The page you specified doesn't exist
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tantek wat
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tantek WordPress/Security << https://blog.sucuri.net/2017/01/spotlight-website-security-photographers.html
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tantek [6:31pm]
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Loqi ok, I added "https://blog.sucuri.net/2017/01/spotlight-website-security-photographers.html" to the "See Also" section of /WordPress/Security
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loqi.me edited /WordPress/Security (+80) "tantek added "https://blog.sucuri.net/2017/01/spotlight-website-security-photographers.html" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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aaronpk yay the error message works now
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david.shanske.com edited /pingback (+122) "/* How do I implement receiving */" (view diff)
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GWG !tell aaronpk If I made it easier for WordPress users to delegate Pingbacks to webmention.io for forwarding would that hurt you?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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aaronpk huh
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aaronpk why would you want to send pingbacks to webmention.io?
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aaronpk for forwarding to what?
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GWG aaronpk, back to a self hosted WordPress site. Webmention.io has a pingback to Webmention gateway
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aaronpk that seems unnecessary
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aaronpk first of all doesn't wordpress handle pingbacks itself?!
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GWG aaronpk, yes it does. But someone seemed to want to offload them.
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aaronpk I don't understand the benefit of using an external service to convert pingbacks to webmentions only to send them back to the site they came from
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aaronpk i can understand wanting to offload all pingback and webmention handling to webmention.io so that wordpress never touches them at all
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GWG The only reason I can think is security
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GWG I originally wanted to explore offloading to webmention.io as an alternative to local, but I have a lot invested locally
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aaronpk i would push back on this request and figure out what they're actually trying to do
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GWG aaronpk, I did. Found out major confusion
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GWG Maybe I will try some documentation improvements.
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jesselisser.nl edited /events/2017-02-08-homebrew-website-club (+40) "/* The Netherlands */" (view diff)
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Zegnat sebsel ^^^
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[aaronpk] hi from slack!
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KartikPrabhu same here!
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[aaronpk] \o/
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aaronpk this means I now have a small amount of work to make the web interface support multiple rooms too
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