#dev 2017-02-21

2017-02-21 UTC
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miklb GWG I'm just trying to figure out how might get around everything having to be a filter of the_content in the templates. I agree some people might not want to customize their theme, but if the option is there, it opens up more use cases
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miklb or does my kind-tax.php not get run through the_content?
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GWG The option is there. The generated code is called from a function. That function is added to the_content.
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GWG So, all you have to do is call it directly.
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miklb not following yet
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miklb in get_display?
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GWG You can call it directly.
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miklb what is "it" ?
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GWG get_display
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miklb maybe I got too much sun today :-) Still not following
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GWG If a theme calls get_display directly, no the_content filter is needed
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GWG So, the option is there right now.
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miklb ok
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GWG There is still a problem though
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GWG If I add it into the_content, it goes all sorts of places I don't want it to.
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GWG Bridgy picks it up as part of e-content, for example.
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GWG RSS picks it up
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GWG Etc.
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GWG The best solution I came up with was inserting the e-content class at a high priority(low number) to the_content filter.
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miklb I'm using that from your mf2 theme
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miklb oh, wait, you have a function to map to post format templates. Why don't I just use that?
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miklb Just need to map one to quote
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GWG miklb: I do.
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GWG As I said, I really need to clean it up and document it a bit better.
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miklb lol. I copied your code and didn't really read it closely. Do I need to enable post formats for that to work?
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GWG It will set the post_format even if it isn't enabled. You just won't see it.
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miklb hmm. I guess I assumed there was support for an actual post format template
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miklb anything I'm seeing is just a hack into get_template_part
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GWG miklb: There was an issue back at in 3.6 about Post Format UI improvements. But nothing has happened in a long while.
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miklb GWG you wouldn't happen to have a snippet example of using get_display to override would you?
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GWG Well, I think I may have had it in mf2_s. But I haven't worked on that in a long while.
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miklb not seeing anything
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miklb thanks though
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GWG miklb: I might break some more things for you as change things. Apologies in advance.
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miklb lol
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miklb I think I'm going to hold off on any wholesale template changes, just tweak to add some styling classes
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miklb I'm not really grokking how to bypass using the filter tonight anyway. Maybe as I tweak the templates, it will make more sense
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aaronparecki.com edited /User:Aaronparecki.com (+88) "/* working on */" (view diff)
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aaronparecki.com edited /User:Aaronparecki.com (+38) "/* figured out */" (view diff)
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aaronparecki.com edited /User:Aaronparecki.com (+63) "/* projects */" (view diff)
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aaronparecki.com edited /User:Aaronparecki.com (+1) "/* projects */" (view diff)
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aaronparecki.com edited /User:Aaronparecki.com (+204) "add specs i contribute to" (view diff)
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aaronpk better
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aaronpk oh yay, my concurrency issue fix worked
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Loqi does a happy dance!
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strugee.net created /User:Strugee.net (+528) "Basic initial page" (view diff)
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pniedzielski.net edited /IRC_People (+62) "Adding myself --- hopefully this picks it up through the matrix bridge" (view diff)
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pfefferle good morning #indieweb
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vanderven.se martijn edited /multi-site_indieweb (+280) "/* Indieweb Examples */ Adding myself. Prompted by sebsel." (view diff)
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@Shaharyar_afzal IndieAuth Links https://wordpress.org/plugins/indieauth-links/ (twitter.com/_/status/833994570115342336)
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tommorris.org edited /Persona (+93) "/* IndieWeb Examples */ as of today, persona functionality has been removed and replaced with IndieAuth" (view diff)
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petermolnar what is domain privacy?
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Loqi Domain privacy refers to privacy concerns around the contact information that is publicly available with each domain name registration https://indieweb.org/domain_privacy
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loqi.me created /pam (+141) "prompted by petermolnar and dfn added by petermolnar" (view diff)
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loqi.me created /stalkscan.com (+328) "prompted by petermolnar and dfn added by petermolnar" (view diff)
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@fkooman @aaronpk do you know of anyone depending on https://indiecert.net/ for IndieAuth? I'd like to take it offline in the next 6 months if not (twitter.com/_/status/834023115491520512)
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davidpeach.co.uk edited /Laravel (+118) (view diff)
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sknebel What is oEmbed?
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Loqi oEmbed is a 2009-era JSON-based format for providing information to construct a link-preview of a page https://indieweb.org/oEmbed
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miklb heh, that reads as if it's not being used still
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cweiske typical tantek-speak
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singpolyma "If we pretend something is old and useless, maybe people will take the hint and stop using it."
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singpolyma "HTML: A 1990s-era SGML-based format for providing flashing "new" gifs."
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singpolyma ;)
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julieannenoying.com edited /events/2017-03-08-homebrew-website-club (+105) "/* West Europe */" (view diff)
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www.svenknebel.de edited /events/2017-02-22-homebrew-website-club (-5) "/* Berlin */" (view diff)
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adactio.com edited /events/2017-02-22-homebrew-website-club (+7) (view diff)
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ben_thatmustbeme always checks google trends to get a good basic idea of how popular a thing still is
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ben_thatmustbeme doesn't mean if we should use it or not
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tommorris singpolyma: to be fair, HTML is a browser compatibility layer for web.js
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jonnybarnes what’s web.js?
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petermolnar I get itchy from the idea of iframing remote sites in the name of embedding and copyrights
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aaronpk yeah i'm all for good citations, linking to the original, clearly showign authorship, etc. but i want to host a copy of things too
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sknebel even I thought that was a good idea, that'd be a legal nightmare here
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sknebel what is forestry.io?
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Loqi forestry.io is a online CMS, web host, and automated build tool for static sites https://indieweb.org/forestry.io
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petermolnar I was looking for a web gui which outputs a static site, but couldn't find anything promising yet
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petermolnar and this is not open source :/
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sknebel have you looked at lektor?
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petermolnar what is lektor?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "lektor" yet. Would you like to create it?
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petermolnar ^^^ no, I haven't :)
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sknebel Lektor is https://www.getlektor.com/, a CMS generating static files, written in Python.
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Loqi ok
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loqi.me created /Lektor (+119) "prompted by petermolnar and dfn added by sknebel" (view diff)
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petermolnar !!!
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www.svenknebel.de edited /Lektor (-2) "proper link" (view diff)
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sknebel aaronpk: is there a way to respond to Loqi so that the page gets created with the link in the <dfn>? (something in the back in my brain says I saw that before, but I forgot how)
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aaronpk you can use mediawiki syntax
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aaronpk what did you want the dfn to say?
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sknebel look at my edit just above
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sknebel that's what I wanted to achieve
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sknebel link the service name to the URL
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sknebel s/service/project
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aaronpk aha
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aaronpk there isn't anything that does that right now
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sknebel ok
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aaronpk I would imagine a good IRC way of doing that would be "Lektor (https://www.getlektor.com/) is a CMS generating static files, written in Python."
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aaronpk does that look reasonable?
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sknebel that would work. or "Lektor is https://www.getlektor.com/, a CMS generating..." as I tried above, (so if first text after is is a URL, link that)
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aaronpk i can probably do that
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sknebel :)
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tommorris jonnybarnes: web.js is a term I use for overly-JS-heavy dev practices. like when you have websites that have nothing in HTML and it's all client-side rendered.
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martymcguire[m] what is Do Not Track?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Do Not Track" yet. Would you like to create it?
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martymcguire[m] Do Not Track is a technology and policy proposal that enables users to opt out of tracking by websites they do not visit, including analytics services, advertising networks, and social platforms.
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Loqi ok
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loqi.me created /Do_Not_Track (+227) "prompted by martymcguire[m] and dfn added by martymcguire[m]" (view diff)
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martymcguire[m] what is DNT?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "DNT" yet. Would you like to create it?
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martymcguire[m] DNT is [[Do Not Track]]
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loqi.me created /DNT (+25) "prompted by martymcguire[m] and dfn added by martymcguire[m]" (view diff)
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Loqi ok
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martymcguire[m] Do Not Track << http://donottrack.us/
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loqi.me edited /Do_Not_Track (+41) "/* See Also */ new section" (view diff)
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Loqi ok, I added "http://donottrack.us/" to the "See Also" section of /Do Not Track
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sknebel martymcguire[m]: thx
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martymcguire[m] no prob. i was surprised it wasn't already in the wiki. filling that out and tying it to other concepts like privacy, privacy policies, disclosure, etc. is a bigger project. :|
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martymcguire[m] Do Not Track << https://allaboutdnt.com/
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loqi.me edited /Do_Not_Track (+27) "martymcguire[m] added "https://allaboutdnt.com/" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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Loqi ok, I added "https://allaboutdnt.com/" to the "See Also" section of /Do Not Track
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martymcguire[m] Do Not Track << https://www.eff.org/issues/do-not-track
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loqi.me edited /Do_Not_Track (+42) "martymcguire[m] added "https://www.eff.org/issues/do-not-track" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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Loqi ok, I added "https://www.eff.org/issues/do-not-track" to the "See Also" section of /Do Not Track
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www.svenknebel.de edited /Do_Not_Track (+356) "start /*What can sites do*/ section" (view diff)
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martymcgui.re edited /Do_Not_Track (+1110) "add info about what users can do" (view diff)
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sknebel ^^^ anyone comments on this?
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vanderven.se martijn edited /Do_Not_Track (+272) "/* What can sites do? */ DDG offers visitors a choice regarding embeds." (view diff)
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GWG Afternoon
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