#dev 2017-03-15

2017-03-15 UTC
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isabelforester.com edited /Homebrew_Website_Club (+208) "/* Getting Started or Need Restarting */" (view diff)
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KartikPrabhu aaronpk: does p3k read from the file storage to construct your feed pages too?
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aaronpk it queries the DB to get the list of posts, and then reads each post's storage file for the contents
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aaronpk the only thing in the DB is the published date, tags, channels, and the post's filename
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tantek the DB cache right?
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aaronpk yeah
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KartikPrabhu interesting, and the reply-context is then read separately from its own file for each post?
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aaronpk the reply context is actually stored in the post itself
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tantek orly
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aaronpk that was a recent development
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KartikPrabhu and what about responses?
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tantek a bit surprised by that. I would expect that to be cached as well - since it's from outside your site
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aaronpk yeah, i had a lot of issues trying to come up with a good format for storing external content
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aaronpk like as a generic thing
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aaronpk so i went with a specific solution instead
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aaronpk here's what it looks like. scroll down to the YAML block https://aaronparecki.com/2017/01/14/3/day-25-reply-context
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Loqi [Aaron Parecki] Day 25: Automatically Fetching Reply Contexts for p3k #100DaysOfIndieWeb
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tantek that's literally the biggest design challenge I have in Falcon that many things (like better reply contexts, nicknames cache, webmentions received) are all depending on
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aaronpk instead of storing just the URL as the in-reply-to property in my post, it stores the full parsed mf2 of the context
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tantek "storage" of external content
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tantek do you ever update your reply contexts?
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tantek or are they only a snapshot as of the moment you post your reply?
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aaronpk snapshot
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aaronpk including a snapshot of the author's photo at the time I replied
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KartikPrabhu aaronpk: are the responses also stored in the post content file?
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aaronpk no, i'm cheating for responses right now. they are only stored in the database.
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aaronpk i punted on making that decision in order to launch the rebuild of my site. i plan on finding a disk storage solution to it in the future though
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KartikPrabhu aah I see. cool thanks. I am thinking about how to store all these "pieces" of a post
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tantek KartikPrabhu: same!
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tantek I think we even have a page on that
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tantek what are pieces of a post
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "pieces of a post" yet. Would you like to create it?
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tantek what are parts of a post
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "parts of a post" yet. Would you like to create it?
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tantek hmm
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tantek what are post sections
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "post sections" yet. Would you like to create it?
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tantek goes to search the wiki
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tantek found it: /posts#Pieces_of_a_Post
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tantek pieces of a post is /posts#Pieces_of_a_Post
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loqi.me created /pieces_of_a_post (+35) "prompted by tantek and dfn added by tantek" (view diff)
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Loqi ok
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tantek parts of a post are /posts#Pieces_of_a_Post
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Loqi ok
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loqi.me created /parts_of_a_post (+35) "prompted by tantek and dfn added by tantek" (view diff)
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tantek post sections are /posts#Pieces_of_a_Post
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Loqi ok
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loqi.me created /post_sections (+35) "prompted by tantek and dfn added by tantek" (view diff)
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tantek now reviews that section for details
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aaronpk i just realized i forgot to celebrate the 1 year anniversary of my new site
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tantek whoa
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tantek sounds like you know what feature to implement next ;)
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KartikPrabhu not to worry I forgot the 10year for the first post on my site too
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aaronpk ha
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KartikPrabhu <imported post from Blogger>
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loqi.me created /this_day (+51) "prompted by tantek and dfn added by tantek" (view diff)
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loqi.me created /today (+48) "prompted by aaronpk and dfn added by tantek" (view diff)
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aaronpk i'm not sure what i would count the first "post" on my site
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KartikPrabhu well then 5 years next year for me :P
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aaronpk i had lots of things on my website, but none had timestamps like a blog post does
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tantek aaronpk - are you thinking current site? or ever on the domain?
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aaronpk before I turned it into something that resembles what it is now
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tantek (personally I think "ever on the domain" is the way to measure it)
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tantek (because "software" is just plumbing ;) )
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aaronpk the original content on the domain didn't have timestamps
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tantek none of it? not even a year?
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tantek not even a copyright?
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aaronpk there was a copyright yeah, but that's for the site as a whole
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aaronpk rather than about the specific content you'd be looking at
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tantek has really old notes that he happened to datestamp
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tantek a bunch of one-offs before I started actually *blogging*
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aaronpk i had some school essays on there, those might be the closes things to datestamped content
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tantek aaronpk - ah, nothing page-specific then
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tantek oh yeah! if your school essays have a date on them
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aaronpk some of them just have a year
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aaronpk some of them just have a relative year! (e.g. Grade 10)
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tantek aaronpk, that's close enough
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aaronpk ah, and an album
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aaronpk since that has a date
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aaronpk http://2003.aaronparecki.com/music.htm
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aaronpk creates a calendar reminder for 2019 to celebrate the 20th anniversary of his website
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aaronpk oh, except the domain didn't exist until 2001, so i must have backfilled that content
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[kevinmarks] Right, I celebrated the 20th anniversary of of my first page, but it was on a different site.
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[kevinmarks] http://www.kevinmarks.com/myfirstwebsite.html
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Loqi My First Website 2014-10-29
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loqi.me created /podcasts_about_the_indieweb (+159) "prompted by tantek and dfn added by tantek" (view diff)
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petermolnar hm. I'm getting a little frustrated on readability vs python. So far I've tried many from https://github.com/bookieio/breadability/#alternatives but the best result is still with the mozilla readability.js - unfortunately that one is js which I'm trying to avoid. newspaper (https://github.com/codelucas/newspaper) so far is quite good at returning the text only contents but that is really very lossy compared to a markdown version.
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petermolnar had anyone experimented with these?
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tantek.com edited /posts (+112) "/* Pieces of a Post */ clarify location means where created/published, different from location about" (view diff)
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tantek videos about the indieweb << podcasts about the indieweb
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loqi.me edited /videos_about_the_indieweb (+34) "tantek added "[[podcasts about the indieweb]]" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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Loqi ok, I added "[[podcasts about the indieweb]]" to the "See Also" section of /videos_about_the_indieweb
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tantek podcasts about the indieweb << videos about the indieweb
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loqi.me edited /podcasts_about_the_indieweb (+49) "/* See Also */ new section" (view diff)
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Loqi ok, I added "[[videos about the indieweb]]" to the "See Also" section of /podcasts_about_the_indieweb
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tantek.com edited /Posts_about_the_IndieWeb (-12) "add podcasts next to this week" (view diff)
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tantek what is a podcast?
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Loqi A podcast is an episodic series of audio and/or video posts that can be subscribed to and downloaded for offline listening/viewing https://indieweb.org/podcast
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tantek podcast << podcasts about the indieweb
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loqi.me edited /podcast (+34) "tantek added "[[podcasts about the indieweb]]" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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Loqi ok, I added "[[podcasts about the indieweb]]" to the "See Also" section of /podcast
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tantek what is podcasts about
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aaronparecki.com edited /events/2017-04-05-homebrew-website-club (-52) "/* US West */ pdx" (view diff)
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tantek podcasts about is [[podcasts about the indieweb]]
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tantek Loqi?
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tantek.com edited /podcasts_about_the_indieweb (+34) "linky, dfn" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /podcasts_about_the_indieweb (+225) "active, Brainstorming" (view diff)
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tantek what is podcasts about
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cleverdevil.io created /Template:cleverdevil (+135) "Created page with "<span class="h-card">{{sparkline| https://indieweb.org/images/8/8d/jonathan-lacour.jpg}} [[User:Cleverdevil.io|Jonathan LaCour]]</span>"" (view diff)
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loqi.me edited /pnut (+67) "/* See Also */ new section" (view diff)
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gRegorLove What is Webmention Rocks
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Webmention Rocks" yet. Would you like to create it?
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gRegorLove Webmention Rocks is /Webmention.rocks
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Loqi ok
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tantek I'd really like to reconsider "any explicit p-* property on an element stops implied p-name" (perhaps phrased better) per near the bottom of this issue: http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2-parsing-issues#implied_properties_when_an_explicit_class_is_provided
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Loqi microformats2-parsing-issues
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tantek might be worth filing this as a separate issue on github
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loqi.me edited /press-kit (+39) "/* See Also */ new section" (view diff)
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tantek aaronpk: filed specific issue to (re)work on the p-name problems: https://github.com/microformats/microformats2-parsing/issues/6
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aaronpk great
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aaronparecki.com edited /this-week-in-the-indieweb (+144) "/* Contents */ added podcasts" (view diff)
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aaronparecki.com edited /this-week-in-the-indieweb (+274) "/* How to */ how to add podcasts" (view diff)
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aaronpk oh hey daylight savings
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aaronpk adjusts the cron job
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loqi.me created /Screech (+107) "prompted by tantek and dfn added by martymcguire[m]" (view diff)
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martymcguire[m] Screech << https://martymcgui.re/2017/03/14/183924/
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Loqi ok, I added "[[https:/[[martymcgui]].re/2017/03/14/183924/]]" to the "See Also" section of /Screech
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loqi.me edited /Screech (+67) "/* See Also */ new section" (view diff)
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Loqi [Marty McGuire] Screech - a micropub client for podcasting
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martymcguire[m] Screech << https://github.com/martymcguire/screech
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loqi.me edited /Screech (+72) "/* See Also */ new section" (view diff)
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Loqi ok, I added "[[https:/[[github]].com[[martymcguire]][[screech]]]]" to the "See Also" section of /Screech
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sknebel aaronpk: ^^^ I'm not sure what Loqi is doing with that URL...
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gRegorLove Haha
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Loqi hehe
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gRegorLove Loqi's going bracket-crazy
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sknebel bracket ALL THE THINGS!
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Loqi http://meme.loqi.me/m/4nLxP70w.jpg
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martymcguire[m] it's finding /PAGENAME and replacing it with [[PAGENAME]]
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aaronpk oh my gosh
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aaronpk wow i broek everything
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tantek s/broek/bracket
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gRegorLove Hiyoooo!
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martymcguire[m] hahaha
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gRegorLove Does Loqi do Yo Dawg memes?
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gRegorLove Yo Dawg, we heard you like brackets...
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