#dev 2017-04-29

2017-04-29 UTC
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loqi.me edited /private_posts (+106) "[kevinmarks] added "https://marrus-sh.github.io/mastodon-info/everything-you-need-to-know-about-privacy-v1.3-020170427.html" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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schmarty good morning, -dev!
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schmarty i just got my invite and registered at micro.blog. having trouble getting my personal site "verified".
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schmarty i've got the relme link to my micro.blog page on my homepage (https://martymcgui.re/ to https://micro.blog/schmarty), but it's not seeming to pick it up.
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Loqi Marty McGuire h
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schmarty not sure if it complicates things but i gave it my "RSS" feed through having granary convert my main posts h-feed into an atom feed.
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schmarty the web site verification steps (http://help.micro.blog/2017/web-site-verification/) seem to indicate that as long as I am pointing to my URL in my account settings and have the relme link back on that page it should pick it up on refreshing my account page. it doesn't seem to be, though.
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aaronpk schmarty: that sounds about like how i have it set up
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schmarty aaronpk: thanks! i guess i will start over and triple-check everything if it hasn't started working in a few hours.
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aaronpk you could ask in the micro.blog slack too. there's a #bugs channel
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aaronpk GWG: how far back in PHP versions do you have to support for wordpress plugins? For this XRay library I don't want to have to support really old versions but I know you were thinking about using it
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martymcgui.re edited /html_regex (+12) "fix audio permalink" (view diff)
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GWG I support or try to support 5.3 or above. WordPress supports to 5.2
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GWG I have had complaints from users using 5.3
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GWG And if you made Xray a library, I might use it in lieu of my own simplified version
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GWG Your work is fuller featured.
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aaronpk I'm working on the library right now. I'm not sure how far back it will work but I doubt it will support 5.3
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aaronpk I use a couple other libraries like HTML purifier and a twitter client, so it depends on those too
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schmarty apparently time heals the micro.blog config. my site is now verified.
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schmarty and i have posts at https://micro.blog/schmarty
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schmarty fun!
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aaronpk yay
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GWG aaronpk, we can set it to fall back in older versions
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aaronpk like fall back to a non-xray library?
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GWG aaronpk, yes
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GWG With an notice in the UI about it
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miklb I saw a tweet yesterday that the % of WP sites using < 5.3 is very close to being at a point can be dropped.
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GWG miklb, that is why we tend to support 5.3 and above
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GWG 5% are still on 5.2 though
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GWG https://wordpress.org/about/stats/
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[eddie] `Endpoints Callback
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[eddie] IndieWebMeEndpoints(authorization_endpoint: Optional(https://aaronparecki.com/auth), token_endpoint: Optional(https://aaronparecki.com/auth/token), micropub: Optional(https://aaronparecki.com/micropub))`
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[eddie] Yes! Fetching endpoints is complete
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Loqi Aaron Parecki h
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aaronpk nice
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[eddie] I don’t want to break the components down into too many frameworks. From you guys’ experience, should endpoint fetching code be part of an IndieAuth framework, or should it be its own framework that the IndieAuth framework uses?
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[eddie] In my mind, I think it would be part of IndieAuth, but if someone might need it separately, I’m happy to break it out.
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aaronpk endpoint fetching? is that like given a profile URL, find the micropub/auth/etc endpoints?
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[eddie] Yep
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aaronpk if it could also be used to find other rel URLs, might make sense as its own library
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aaronpk e.g. a webmention endpoint
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aaronpk or websub, or other future things
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[eddie] Ahhhh gotcha! That sounds good
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aaronpk i have a separate function in XRay for this actually
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aaronpk it returns the merged list of rel values that it finds in HTTP headers and HTML tags
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[eddie] Nice, that makes sense. Would rel=“me” be included in that as well?
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[eddie] or just header rel tags?
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aaronpk it returns all rels
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aaronpk any element with a rel attribute, plus HTTP Link headers
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aaronpk http://xray.p3k.io/rels?url=https://aaronparecki.com/
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aaronpk it doesn't know what any of them mean, it's just a parser basically
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[eddie] :thumbsup: gotcha, I’ll match that then
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aaronpk i think that would be a useful library for sure
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[eddie] Awesome, I’ll break that out then ?
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aaronpk you've already seen this library I assume? https://github.com/indieweb/link-rel-parser-php
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Loqi [indieweb] link-rel-parser-php: Parse HTTP `Link` headers into a structured format
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[eddie] I actually missed that one. So that’ll be helpful to look at
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aaronpk there are some good test cases there
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GWG How is the xray work going?
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[eddie] Excellect
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[eddie] Excellent*, thanks for that
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miklb anyone know of a little library or something that could be used in the WP admin to parse tweet character counts?
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aaronpk GWG: slower than I was hoping!
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aaronpk Its tricky
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aaronpk miklb: cassis.js has a twitter char counter
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GWG aaronpk, I only ask because I am looking at enhancing the code used in Semantic Linkbacks, which is due for a revisi.
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aaronpk i got a good chunk done yesterday, hoping to finish today
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aaronpk if this is the only thing i accomplish today i will be happy
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GWG Either way, the existing functionality needs to be updated. It is some of the older code in the plugin and people are commenting it is classifying likes as mentions
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GWG I want to redo the properties to type mapping
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miklb aaronpk thanks, took a look, but couldn't make heads or tails of what I would need out of that file. I punted and just did a regular character count for my excerpts for now.
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aaronpk miklb: heh sorry, I shoulda pointed you to something more specific: https://github.com/tantek/cassis/blob/master/cassis.js#L1579
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aaronpk making progress on XRay
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[chrisaldrich] miklb: petermolnar once made this: https://wordpress.org/plugins/character-count-for-post-content-excerpt/ which should do what you're looking for.
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Loqi [Peter Molnar] This plugin hasn’t been updated in over 2 years. It may no longer be maintained or supported and may have compatibility issues when used wi...
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[chrisaldrich] Wow Loqi, you're dispensing WordPress advice now?
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miklb [chrisaldrich] yeah, I hacked something similar together for my own uses. Really just need a little regex or something to count URL as 23 chars, or whatever it is Twitter is using now
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miklb that notice is at the top of the page
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aaronpk tests++
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Loqi tests has 2 karma in this channel (11 overall)
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aaronpk cannot imagine doing this refactor without these tests
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miklb might wind up using this https://github.com/twitter/twitter-text/tree/master/js and maybe write a little WP plugin. who knows.
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@philipbrewer 2017-04-29 webmention https://www.philipbrewer.net/2017/04/29/2017-04-29-webmention/ (twitter.com/_/status/858384814222782464)
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aaronpk i think i'm done
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aaronpk okay... here we go
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schmarty aaronpk++ wow, nice updates on XRay!
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Loqi aaronpk has 49 karma in this channel (1303 overall)
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aaronpk and published! https://github.com/aaronpk/XRay/releases/tag/v1.1.1
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aaronpk can't wait to rip out a bunch of code from OwnYourGram and replace it with this library!
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[eddie] aaronpk: You have both HTTP Header Links and HTML Rel Links. Obviously, yours match. However, in a battle between the two, which should override the other? (Or do you just add them both to the array)
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aaronpk I believe webmention says which take priority
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aaronpk tho now I'm not sure what my library does
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aaronpk might be safer to add them all in order of the priority webmention says and let the consumer decide
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[eddie] If more than one of these is present, the first HTTP Link header takes precedence, followed by the first <link> element, and finally the first <a> element.
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[eddie] So yeah, I guess just put them all in there with [0]=HTTP Link, [1]=Link, etc.
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[eddie] Thanks
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KevinMarks Which is an interesting difference from lrrd
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KartikPrabhu hmm why is Link header the first priority? it seems harder to change while the HTML is more easily updated
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[eddie] Hmmm. Security versus Ease of Use? Link header is harder to change but probably also less likely to be accidentally or maliciously changed?
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KartikPrabhu maliciously?
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KevinMarks Also link headers can be returned by a HEAD request
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KartikPrabhu KevinMarks: I know the advantage of Link headers, but why are they first priority?
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KartikPrabhu if I update my webmention endpoint, it is much easier to change the HTML than try to find where my server is sending Link headers from
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KevinMarks If I post a comment on your part and you don't escape it right, I could add a link
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KartikPrabhu that would still be below the <head> <link>
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KevinMarks I think it would be hoisted to the head by html5 parsing
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KartikPrabhu hmm
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gregorlove.com edited /User:Gregorlove.com (+17) "/* Interests */ fixed authorship parsing" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /User:Gregorlove.com (+18) "/* Interests */ completed" (view diff)
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gRegorLove From the sender perspective, HEAD is easier than GET since it will return less data. My plugin stops there if it finds it in the HEAD request.
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