#dev 2017-05-01

2017-05-01 UTC
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[eddie] tantek: Thanks!
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[eddie] yeah, Aaron noticed the responsive layout issues the other day when I posted a screenshot
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[eddie] I might peek at the IndieAuth.com repo and see what the layout looks like. I might make some tweaks on it if I have the time and aaron hasn't beat me to it.
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@ubnt_intrepid “Webmention ：HTML5時代のトラックバック” http://www.kunimiya.info/blog/2016/06/26/introduction-to-webmention/ (twitter.com/_/status/859035430045368320)
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aaronpk anyone know of a pubsubhubbub/websub implementation that advertises the hub using .host-meta?
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aaronpk yeah me either
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sknebel micropub question: why is q= a reserved parameter in POST bodies – shouldn't all queries use GET? Just to be sure, or did I overlook a case?
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aaronpk no you're correct
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aaronpk that's poorly worded
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sknebel second question: in JSON encoding, mp-* are always in the properties object, and not "top-level"? (there is not a single example of e.g. mp-syndicate-to with a json request I could find)
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sknebel (if you want me to put any of this as github issues, say so, I'm never sure if github or IRC are better channels for these things)
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aaronpk can you make an issue for the first one? request clarification around the wording of the reserved properties
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sknebel sure, will do
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aaronpk funny that there aren't any examples of mp-syndicate-to in JSON format. it'd be one of the properties tho, another reason for the mp- prefix
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aaronpk what's the purpose of the hub sending the hub and self URLs as HTTP link headers?
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aaronpk in content distribution https://www.w3.org/TR/websub/#content-distribution
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aaronpk "The subscriber must not use these Link headers to identify the subscription corresponding to the content distribution request"
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aaronpk ? https://packagist.org/packages/p3k/websub
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schmarty aaronpk++ wow wow! kicking out lots of libraries these past few days!
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Loqi aaronpk has 50 karma in this channel (1305 overall)
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KartikPrabhu aaronpk: in p3k do you check for inconsistencies between your DB and file-storage? as in what happens if your DB has a record for some post that does not exist in the file storage and vice-versa?
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aaronpk file storage is authoritative
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aaronpk every time a post is touched, it updates the DB copy of it
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aaronpk e.g. if i edit the post, or when webmentions are received for the post
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aaronpk if there's a trace of a post in the DB that doesn't have a corresponding file, it's basically a 404 error but probably is actually a little messier than that in practice
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KartikPrabhu ok got it. I was thinking along the same lines but it becomes messier
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KartikPrabhu I have my current notes stored as files already, but have to devise some way to save new ones since I am still using Django's admin interface instead of having a full-micropub setup
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KartikPrabhu so deciding which one is easier to implement 1) change Django's admin setup or 2) implement full micropub
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[eddie] oh aaronpk: on that topic, your webmentions. They are stored in the YAML front-matter? Or somewhere else?
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KartikPrabhu ^ that should be a p3k FAQ since I asked it already once at least :P
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aaronpk right now they are only stored in the database ? but my plan is to have a separate storage file for each post for its webmentions
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[eddie] ???
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[eddie] haha. Okay but the plan is in essence /year/month/day/index/post.txt and /year/month/day/index/webmentions.txt
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aaronpk yeah
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Loqi hehe
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sknebel I have files per webmention
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sknebel so /year/month/id/webmentions/source_url-timestamp.txt
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aaronpk file per webmention makes it a little easier to deal with updates actually
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[eddie] That is true.
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[eddie] sknebel, why timestamp? Do you allow multiple webmentions per source?
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sknebel [eddie]: right now I don't process updates properly, but want to have all data later
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sknebel I don't display them yet, rendering many WMs from many files might not scale
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aaronpk yeah i'll probably still be caching them in the database for that reason
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sknebel but since I cache parts of the post html, maybe I'll cache a rendered version of all WMs as well
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[eddie] Hmmm interesting. I’ll have to think through all of that. ?
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sknebel (I have a post.html file which html with yaml header, but if a post is not written in HTML directly there is a source.<format> file as well)
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sknebel (*still* working on my MP endpoint, this is taking entirely to long, but once its finished it'll also automatically save all changes in git and push it to a backup location)
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c.micro.blog edited /indieweb_network (+84) "/* Larger or multi-user software */ websub for micro.blog" (view diff)
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