#dev 2017-06-13

2017-06-13 UTC
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pfefferle good morning
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Loqi guten morgen
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petermolnar interesting: nginx error log: SSL: error:1417D18C:SSL routines:tls_process_client_hello:version too low
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petermolnar is this a downgrade attack or an ancient - <ie9 - client, I wonder
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petermolnar especially that the IP is from CA, US
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[kevinmarks] lets try that here :pride: vs ?‍? (first is : pride : second is U+1F3F3 U+FE0F U+200D U+1F308 from Apple)
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Loqi [kevinmarks]: Zegnat left you a message 1 day ago: any idea why my comment does not show my display picture? I thought Known did /authorship right, but maybe I’m wrong? http://known.kevinmarks.com/2017/the-weird-thing-is-that-a-lot-of-phones-have
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KevinMarks Haha
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Loqi hahahaha
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[kevinmarks] my irc client was confused too: http://known.kevinmarks.com/2017/bridging-emoji-is-hard
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Loqi [Kevin Marks] Bridging emoji is hard http://known.kevinmarks.com/file/9d8936640facdcbd4e790aa2c7080f18/thumb.png
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petermolnar KevinMarks we need a new movement #noemoji #emojifree
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[kevinmarks] there are more flags coming ???????
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petermolnar ...
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[kevinmarks] that's https://emojipedia.org/flag-for-england/ - 5 letter flag tags
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petermolnar why not make heraldry possible with emojis instead?
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petermolnar that is at least interesting
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petermolnar coats of arms in emoji
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petermolnar (I'm only half joking, this is an existing thing which could even be useful)
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[kevinmarks] like this thing? http://web.meson.org/blazonserver/index.php?blazon=Or+a+bend+sable.&format=svg
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ben_thatmustbeme A 7 charter flag
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ben_thatmustbeme Ugh
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ben_thatmustbeme In going to need to update single emoji recognizer
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petermolnar nah, rather like this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Arms_of_England
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petermolnar ????
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petermolnar Zegnat++
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Loqi zegnat has 10 karma in this channel (61 overall)
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petermolnar aaronpk++
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Loqi aaronpk has 56 karma in this channel (1346 overall)
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petermolnar Zegnat for pointing out http://mercury.postlight.com/
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petermolnar aaronpk for having HTML that pandoc parses into perfect markdown
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petermolnar what is content extraction?
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Loqi Content extraction are techniques and tools to get the main/structured content from web pages https://indieweb.org/Content_extraction
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petermolnar Content_extraction << http://mercury.postlight.com/
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Loqi ok, I added "http://mercury.postlight.com/" to the "See Also" section of /Content_extraction
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Zegnat ben_thatmustbeme yes, single emoji check needs updating. See https://github.com/aaronpk/emoji-detector-php/pull/3
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Loqi [sebsel] #3 Check strlen before detecting emoji in is_single_emoji
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Zegnat Full heraldry and vexillology with unicode would be fun petermolnar :p [5:8][blue][nordiccross][gold]
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petermolnar http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/02/0256f65d2e16b8840f4cf1feb23592b8aa100f4e2314f221c79a873f6a7e388d.jpg
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Zegnat I mean, as a non-designer non-unicode-implementor social-media-user, it is fun! :D
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petermolnar 'fun': 2015 and 2016 indieweb(!) bookmarks are 404ing...
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ben_thatmustbeme Huh, weird to have a constant like that
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petermolnar constant?
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ben_thatmustbeme That PR Zegnat linked
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petermolnar ben_thatmustbeme that's normal in C
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petermolnar (meanwhile, my url fetcher is whispering to me: 'I see dead blogs')
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ben_thatmustbeme Yeah, I know, except the parsing of emoji doesn't actually need it
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ben_thatmustbeme It's just that flag symbols are apparently now modifiers as well
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ben_thatmustbeme Which is really odd. I'm worried it may not be a decidable until the end of the string now
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GWG Good morning
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Loqi *yawn*
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eli_oat morning!
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GWG Morning, eli_oat. What exciting things do you have planned for today?
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eli_oat mostly work, but hoping to pop to the beach afterwards. :P
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GWG Same on the work. Hoping to fix the code I broke last night
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eli_oat been there, good luck!
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GWG Well, I realized at the end of it I had approached it in a less than optimal way, so I'm going to try another way
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eli_oat those sorts of realizations are always fun, I think. You spend a heap of time going at a problem from the front, but then when you go at it from the left it all falls together
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eli_oat I've been noodling an indieweb project in the evenings, but so far haven't made much progress. I'm still waiting for that moment
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eli_oat …or just not thinking hard enough
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GWG The Summit is coming up soon. I'd like to get a few more things settled before
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eli_oat ?
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sknebel is there any prior art on how to refer to rel-links of other sites? E.g. if I want to tell something "go to http://example.com and follow the rel=webmention link"?
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petermolnar why would you want to do that?
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petermolnar or maybe I get it wrong
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petermolnar is this from code or as a link for a visitor?
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tantek sknebel, I believe that's called a "specification", e.g. how Webmention says to do discovery :)
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sknebel fair enough ;) it's just a pair of parameters, just wondered if there is a set of names already. I guess I'll just pick some
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sknebel been thinking about non-interactive IndieAuth a bit more
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sknebel and e.g. for the use case "private webmention" figuring out what the correct identity to give access to is is surprisingly tricky
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tantek \o/
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petermolnar sign... Zegnat, that mercury thing was too good to be true: buzzfeed urls, for example, are represented with the pop-over js content
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Zegnat That surprises me
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petermolnar try it
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petermolnar eg. https://www.buzzfeed.com/peggy/camping-hacks-that-are-borderline-genius
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Zegnat I’ll have a try later, I am about to get out of the house
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petermolnar Y U NO have curl on your phone?!
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petermolnar ;)
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www.boffosocko.com edited /pnut (+146) "considering adding microformats and webmention" (view diff)
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vanderven.se martijn edited /events/2017-06-14-homebrew-website-club (-4) "/* UK */ Hide Brighton" (view diff)
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aaronpk !tell tantek as requested, screenshots of FB's "duplicate event" UI: https://indieweb.org/create#Duplicate_Event it really makes event posting easy
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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gRegorLove I think -dev gets used for meta-channel discussions because it's kinda plumbing, not really about building things on your personal site like main channel.
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tantek right
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Loqi tantek: aaronpk left you a message 5 hours, 1 minute ago: as requested, screenshots of FB's "duplicate event" UI: https://indieweb.org/create#Duplicate_Event it really makes event posting easy
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tantek aaronpk++
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sknebel aaronpk: also going to use vidyo for leaders summit?
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aaronpk i think we can but it will be a smaller room and i forgot to ask them about that
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aaronpk pretty sure everything will Just Work tho
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aaronpk i already have the remote participation URL and it doesn't appear to be activated on a schedule, it's always live
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