#dev 2017-08-19

2017-08-19 UTC
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sketchess Ok. I am searching once againe for the most simplest way and effective at the same time to implement my favicon. I do not know much about the differences between desctops and mobiles. But I ask myself what works best for all. I would prefer an ico file, thought. And not sure if a favicon ist best placed in the root or html.
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sketchess still catching up on the technical progress of the last 5 years
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sketchess So favicon cheat sheets can be a bit confusing if they do not agree with each other.
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sketchess Any suggestions?
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Zegnat If they do not agree with eachother it is probably because browsers do not agree with eachother
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Zegnat Most browsers will look at http://yourdomain/favicon.ico no matter what you do though
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Zegnat So putting an ico file at that URL is a pretty good step
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Zegnat https://indieweb.org/icon#IndieWeb_Examples gives you some examples of how you can provide icons to browsers, as you can see, almost everyone uses a different set of tags. This depends on the browsers they are targeting, and also on if they want to use different images in different cases
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sketchess Hmm... looks like this time I will not find 'the' answer. Ok, thanks for the link. I will search in the possibilities and decide what is worth it for me to pick.
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Zegnat sketchess it really depends on where you want browsers to use the icon
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sketchess Yeah. I will not have to worry about every aspect yet. Easy things first than further development. An ico has to do it for now.
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@RussellBal @cliffordoravec Semantic web is a cool concept that seems hard to do. Something I'm rooting for today is Webmention… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/898904139719200768 (twitter.com/_/status/898904139719200768)
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@kevinmarks @RussellBal @cliffordoravec @remarkbox You could make remark box a webmention receiver, like http://webmention.herokuapp.com (twitter.com/_/status/898921005627957248)
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sebsel So, Zegnat had an error in his Indie event for next Virtual HWC, which I RSVPed to, so he updated it. And then he manually asked me to refresh my link-preview / the cited event.
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sebsel There are updated webmentions, but this was the other way around: the original post got updated
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sebsel Would that be a webmention too?
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Zegnat Good question. When you update your post you resend the webmentions within. Maybe salmentions would say also send a webmention to every comment so they can come and refresh?
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Zegnat And then where I said “every comment”, read “every interaction”, so RSVPs should also get it?
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sebsel what is update?
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Loqi An updated is a post that has been edited by the author https://indieweb.org/update
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aaronpk i thought this had been described already
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sebsel Ah there is something under /update#brainstorming
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sebsel And now my brother deletes a tweet right before I can retweet it, so deleted my failed POSSE retweet too
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sebsel goes for dinner
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aaronpk lol
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Zegnat Aah, so it is described as a brainstorm. Seems to describe exactly what I said so that's good. Will add a plus 1.
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Zegnat Nobody is actually doing this though?
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aaronpk i have a manual command to update the reply context but i don't do it automatically yet
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Zegnat Do you send webmentions for updates? That seems to be the important thing, before supporting automatically update on your end
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aaronpk yeah i do
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Zegnat Maybe add that to the page, aaronpk? That moves the brainstorm to an actual implementation
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sknebel sebsel++ for the TTB writeup
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sknebel Fresh from USENIX 2017: “I Have No Idea What I’m Doing” - On the Usability of Deploying HTTPS https://www.usenix.org/system/files/conference/usenixsecurity17/sec17-krombholz.pdf
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sknebel (which does not quite match our discussions, but is still interesting in context)
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@rretsiem Thinking about building a page on my blog that collects and shows all #Webmentions that are not specific to a ... http://microblog.renem.net/2017/08/19/thinking-about-building.html (twitter.com/_/status/898996379179245568)
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tantek great thread on encouraging /selfdogfooding - and odd resistance from the startup pitching their "solution"! https://twitter.com/paulg/status/898921921756225536
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@paulg @matasar @HelloCivil You should try hosting an instance yourselves. Treat it as an experiment, and maybe it will become the tail that wags the dog, like Paypal. (twitter.com/_/status/898921921756225536)
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@RussellBal @kevinmarks @cliffordoravec @remarkbox I guess I need a for dummies explanation on how to setup a simple Webmention receiver first. (twitter.com/_/status/899055307002978309)
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