#dev 2017-09-07

2017-09-07 UTC
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tantek feel free to bikeshed / suggest alternatives
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loqi.me edited /lulz (+80) "tantek added "[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BV-bs5aEMRk The Federated Group commercials]" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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aaronpk Isn't that just "the Federation"?
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martymcgui.re uploaded /File:hwc-baltimore-2017-09-06.jpg "Photo for Homebrew Website Club Baltimore 2017-09-06.Jonathan Prozzi, Derek Fields, Marty McGuire https://indieweb.org/File:hwc-baltimore-2017-09-06.jpg"
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[kevinmarks] "the Federation" has bad echoes for me https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terran_Federation_(Blake%27s_7)
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aaronpk Star Trek for me :-)
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[kevinmarks] They had a great talking computer called Orac who was really grumpy
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[kevinmarks] http://blakes7.wikia.com/wiki/Orac_(Computer)
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tantek.com edited /Special:Log/upload () "uploaded a new version of "[[File:2017-249-hwc-sf.jpg]]"" (view diff)
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@nhoizey @heydonworks @SaraSoueidan Webmentions are the future, IMHO: https://nicolas-hoizey.com/2017/07/so-long-disqus-hello-webmentions.html (twitter.com/_/status/905674299431940096)
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KartikPrabhu are twitter replies losing the context? why was @SaraSoueidan included in there ^
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KartikPrabhu the twitter web ui only shows the original tweet
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[kevinmarks] Probably sara retweeted it
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aaronpk Twitter canoes
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KartikPrabhu it is pretty confusing~
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[kevinmarks] Yes, Sara retweeted, people are replying to that version, which puts her in the canoe
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KartikPrabhu <sigh>
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aaronpk When I switch Loqi to use the new API it might stop looking weird like that
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KartikPrabhu aaronpk: I looked at it on Twitter's Web UI so not Loqi's fault
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aaronpk orly
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aaronpk crazy
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KartikPrabhu the past context shows it as a reply to the original tweet
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petermolnar https://www.nginx.com/products/nginx-unit/ wow, this sounds big
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Zegnat petermolnar, ooo, that says multiple versions of PHP on the same server. Gotta see that :D
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@m_ott @inclusicomps @heydonworks Still: I wrote a Webmention plugin for Craft CMS so I know a little bit about parsing Webmentions. (twitter.com/_/status/905725742234963968)
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@m_ott @heydonworks @inclusicomps For a quick introduction, you could read the paragraph on Webmentions in this article I… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/905738635302993920 (twitter.com/_/status/905738635302993920)
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@m_ott @heydonworks @inclusicomps @drewm Webmention is also a W3C Recommendation now, so this document by @aaronpk has all… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/905739114644987905 (twitter.com/_/status/905739114644987905)
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@m_ott @heydonworks @inclusicomps @drewm @aaronpk Webmention Rocks! is a validator to help you test your Webmention implem… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/905739545962053632 (twitter.com/_/status/905739545962053632)
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@m_ott @heydonworks @inclusicomps @drewm @aaronpk By design, every webmention needs to have its own source URL (see Bridgy… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/905766134829416448 (twitter.com/_/status/905766134829416448)
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@m_ott @heydonworks @inclusicomps @drewm @aaronpk I really like the idea of site-to-site communication and that Webmention… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/905766553056108544 (twitter.com/_/status/905766553056108544)
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@m_ott @heydonworks @inclusicomps @drewm @aaronpk So it would be quite interesting to see a combination of Webmention and… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/905766722950619136 (twitter.com/_/status/905766722950619136)
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jeremycherfas.net edited /generations (+891) "/* Generation 2 IndieWeb */ --~~~~ Added needs for journalists and links to Gillmor articles" (view diff)
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tantek jeremycherfas++ that's very helpful!
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Loqi jeremycherfas has 3 karma in this channel (8 overall)
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jeremycherfas.net edited /Indieweb_for_Journalism (+487) "/* Articles relating to Indieweb and Journalism */ --~~~~ Adding two of my pieces and gardening" (view diff)
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GWG Where did we leave things with a minimal h-card and an extended one?
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GWG http://indieweb.org/h-card#Issues
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@__biancat @heydonworks @cebe_cc @aral Im cool with that ^ (interface on top of webmentions) (twitter.com/_/status/905855232680140800)
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loqi.me edited /Disqus (+34) "tantek added "https://twitter.com/DisqusDanny" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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tantek what is social media
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Loqi social media is the marketing term for silos and silo posts, ironically more anti-social than social, and encouraging of extreme opposition rather than medium perspectives https://indieweb.org/social_media
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tantek social media << https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/sep/06/social-media-good-evidence-platforms-insecurities-health
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Loqi ok, I added "https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/sep/06/social-media-good-evidence-platforms-insecurities-health" to the "See Also" section of /social_media
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loqi.me edited /social_media (+113) "tantek added "https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/sep/06/social-media-good-evidence-platforms-insecurities-health" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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Zegnat just finished implementing https://www.sitepoint.com/accessible-footnotes-css/
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Zegnat Seems to work well, though I am not sure about having bigger links than just the numbers. Hmm.
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Zegnat petermolnar, maybe interesting? ^^^
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KartikPrabhu Zegnat: that article seems weird since arai-describedby is supposed to be an ID
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KartikPrabhu see: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Accessibility/ARIA/ARIA_Techniques/Using_the_aria-describedby_attribute
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Zegnat KartikPrabhu, is in an ID: `<h2 id="footnote-label">Footnotes</h2>`
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KartikPrabhu Zegnat: yes, but then each footnote link is descried by the entire list of footnotes
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Zegnat Doesn’t mean I fully understand the use of aria-describedby though. Really want to do some screenreader testing soonish.
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KartikPrabhu Zegnat: if you do test out let me know. I am curious how using aria-describedby with the entire footnote list for each footnote-ed item works!
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Zegnat It is saying the text “Footnotes” (from the H2) is describing the A element.
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Zegnat The ID is not on the OL.
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KartikPrabhu "each A element". The ID not being on the OL is what I have a problem with
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KartikPrabhu all the footnotes are being described by the entire list
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KartikPrabhu whereas I would have thought each A should be described by the corresponding footnote OL
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KartikPrabhu sorry LI
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Zegnat It is basically as you see in this example (from MDN): http://www.oaa-accessibility.org/examplep/checkbox1/
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Zegnat There every checkbox is described by the text “Sandwich Condiments” taken from a header above them
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Zegnat Here every link is described by the text “Footnotes” taken from a header below
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KartikPrabhu yeah that seems weird too. If it works with screen-reader then <shrug>
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Zegnat That’s kinda my thought ;) While I have some theoretical understanding of ARIA, I haven’t spent enough time with the readers to know the exact situation here.
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Zegnat My biggest concern with the ID is that I can’t have multiple articles with footnotes on 1 URL without making the footnotes ID unique in some way
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KartikPrabhu maybe add some sort of UID of the article to the "footnote-label"
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[kevinmarks] Re that guardian article, it looks like one I could do the change "social media" to "newspaper" trick on and have a good parody
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Zegnat KartikPrabhu. It also might not matter that footnotes in article number 3 are described by the footnotes title from article number 1. If it truly only takes the text value for description. But yeah, little weird.
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www.svenknebel.de uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:HWCBerlin 20170907 small.jpg]]" https://indieweb.org/File:HWCBerlin 20170907 small.jpg"
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