#dev 2017-09-21

2017-09-21 UTC
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martymcgui.re uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:hwc-baltimore-2017-09-20.jpg]]" https://indieweb.org/File:hwc-baltimore-2017-09-20.jpg"
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tantek.com edited /webactions (-2) "s/rel-syndication/u-syndication" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /POSSE (-4) "s/rel-syndication/u-syndication for how tos" (view diff)
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aaronpk so re: reply UI and linking up to POSSE copies...
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Loqi aaronpk: schmarty left you a message 1 hour, 48 minutes ago: i'm seeing errors from quill editor when uploading to my media endpoint. the note interface works. captured the error via devtools network tab: https://gist.github.com/martymcguire/eb29f409280814cf866dcc882c6e1cd8
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aaronpk thanks schmarty
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tantek oh boy /App.net page with How to POSSE - how to update
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aaronpk uh, archive as historical? heh
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tantek yeah
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aaronpk so there's another problem with the POSSE to twitter issue
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aaronpk here's quill's reply interface with your post loaded up https://media.aaronpk.com/Screen-Shot-2017-09-20-18-08-43-GMYB8EHNBL.jpg
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aaronpk Quill doesn't know if any of those buttons are twitter or not, so Quill can't do anything automatic here.
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aaronpk if I choose one of the twitter buttons, then my site knows it's twitter so it can do the work
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aaronpk but if my site doesn't find a twitter syndication URL of the original post, what should it do?
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aaronpk should it *not* POSSE the reply to twitter cause it has nothing to reply to?
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aaronpk where is the feedback given to the user for whatever the outcome?
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snarfed shades of https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/362
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Loqi [dissolve] #362 syndicate posts despite "Could not find a tweet to reply to."
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aaronpk also right now my site uses silo.pub to actually post to twitter, and since silo.pub is a micropub endpoint, all my site sees is a micropub endpoint and doesn't actually know that it's twitter specifically
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aaronpk that's kind of an implementation detail but it does mean my site will need to be aware of which services the syndication endpoints are tied to, whereas right now it does not need that knowledge
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tantek.com edited /App.net (+127) "move a lot of stuff to archive / history / past and past-tense various verbs" (view diff)
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tantek.com moved /rel-syndication-fr to /u-syndication-fr "s/rel-syndication/u-syndication"
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tantek next time I propose *any* new rel value, someone please remind me of this
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tantek.com edited /syndication (+5) "prose update for s/rel-syndication/u-syndication" (view diff)
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tantek ok rel-syndicaton docs / references updated to u-syndication. yikes that was a long time coming
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tantek that's what I get for making more work for benwerd
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tantek demonstrating tweetstorming with POSSE threading to ask for tweetstorming
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tantek https://twitter.com/t/status/910679496390467585
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@t imagine adding tweetstorming to @Withknown’s UI so all Known users could #indieweb tweetstorm: https://github.com/idno/Known/issues/1907 (ttk.me t4qV3) (twitter.com/_/status/910679496390467585)
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tantek good evening #indieweb-dev
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tantek reviews https://chat.indieweb.org/dev/2017-09-21/1505956168676000 and later
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Loqi [aaronpk] so there's another problem with the POSSE to twitter issue
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tantek aaronpk, let's see if we can chip away at this bit by bit
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tantek one improvement Quill could make is to show (perhaps icons for?) the POSSE copies of the post that is being replied to. Just as Quill can determine the author of that post, it can determine all the syndication copies via u-syndication links
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aaronpk I like that idea
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tantek so that's at least a start - to indicate to the user of Quill that hey this post you're replying to has POSSE copies
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tantek which enables the user to make a more informed decision about where they want to then POSSE their reply to
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tantek hmm looks like I need to setup a /pay page
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tantek (unrelated)
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aaronpk I want to document the problems with trying to translate instagram's multi photo+video posts into micropub somewhere
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[kevinmarks] Threaded tweetstorms sounds like a noterlive variant. Except I need to add micropub still
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