#dev 2017-10-03

2017-10-03 UTC
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[tantek] Just deployed a /request page on my site for the opposite of /pay (literally at dinner where someone else paid and needed to request payment from everyone else).
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[tantek] Only venmo for now because it gives a pay / request choice
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GWG Fun
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[tantek] Aaronpk if you know how to make a "request payment" PayPal link that would be cool too
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[tantek] May want a different verb tho
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[tantek] Request seem very generic
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schmarty repayment? reimbursement? Restitution!
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aaronpk hm I don’t think I’ve seen that feature in PayPal at all
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xavierroy.com edited /IRC_People (+53) (view diff)
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[kevinmarks] Is that verb "invoice"?
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Ruxton aaronpk:you can request payment with paypal me - https://paypal.me/ruxtonau/25 - or alternatively, without request, https://paypal.me/ruxtonau
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Ruxton tantek: re your paypal q from earlier, you can request payments with paypal.me - https://paypal.me/ruxtonau/25 - the last part in the url should be a decimal value (25/25.5/25.32/etc.)
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petermolnar oh, wow: don't use python whoosh with asyncio, I ended up consuming 5GB in 0.1 seconds o.O
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[tantek] Ruxton I think that's the opposite of what I was asking
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[tantek] I already have /pay for that and am working on adding the / amount for that which will use that PayPal URL for other people to pay me
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[tantek] My /request page is for other people to request payment *from* me
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[tantek] That's the bit I can't figure out how to do with PayPal
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schmarty Looks like PayPal's request system requires the requestor to do the work in the PayPal UI. Or did, this is a very old howto: http://archive.oreilly.com/pub/h/2151
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[kevinmarks] The donate button has been there for ages https://developer.paypal.com/docs/classic/paypal-payments-standard/integration-guide/donate_step_1/
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[tantek] Kevinmarks the donate button is like the pay link. Again the direction is toward the account holder.
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[tantek] That's /pay and that's solved
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[tantek] This is the opposite. How do you put up a link so someone else can ask you for money
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[tantek] Also wondering if anyone has figured this out with square cash
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keithjgrant.com created /User:Keithjgrant.com (+190) "Created page with "= [https://keithjgrant.com Keith J. Grant] = == Projects == [[Omnibear]] == Talks == * 2017-09-22 [https://keithjgrant.com/talks/decentralized-web/ The Decentralized Social W..."" (view diff)
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keithjgrant.com edited /IRC_People (+101) "/* Nicknames */" (view diff)
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[kevinmarks] Ah, I see. A bit like Doc Searls's "post an rfp" idea, but simpler.
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[kevinmarks] Worth looking at existing sites that do this - it's usually an application process. Ben has one at matter, for example.
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aaronpk Square Cash at least does have a request feature. Not sure about building a link for it tho
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aaronpk WebSub PR is published! https://www.w3.org/TR/websub/
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Loqi [Julien Genestoux] WebSub
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aaronparecki.com edited /WebSub (+0) "PR" (view diff)
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schmarty ?
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schmarty aaronpk++ congrats on the websub PR going up!
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Loqi aaronpk has 76 karma in this channel (1438 overall)
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snarfed aaronpk++
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Loqi aaronpk has 77 karma in this channel (1439 overall)
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martymcgui.re edited /User:Martymcgui.re (+1284) "/* Itches */ updates after IWC NYC 2017" (view diff)
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[cleverdevil] Nice job, aaronpk++ ?
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[cleverdevil] Are there any reference implementations of WebSub, yet?
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[cleverdevil] (I know that there are lots of implementations, but is any considered "the reference")
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aaronpk the three biggest/most public ones are Google's (https://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/) Superfeedr (http://pubsubhubbub.superfeedr.com/), and mine (https://switchboard.p3k.io)
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aaronpk google recently pushed a few changes to theirs and ran it through the validator
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[cleverdevil] Gotcha.
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[cleverdevil] What I'm *really* looking forward to is Microsub!
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aaronpk me too hehe
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aaronpk i feel like i need to capture my plans and schedule for everything i'm working on to keep it straight
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aaronpk like a roadmap, as much as someone dislikes that term
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aaronpk what is a roadmap?
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Loqi Typical use of the term roadmap does not refer to actual roads, maps, or maps of roads - instead, keep a personal priority ordered list of what you're specifically Working On, and for unsorted or vague desires, add them to an unordered Itches list, on your User page or your project's page https://indieweb.org/roadmap
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dmitri.shuralyov.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:push event for self-hosted git repo.png]]" https://indieweb.org/File:push event for self-hosted git repo.png"
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dmitri.shuralyov.com edited /git (+4) "/* IndieWeb Examples */ Tweak wording about events showing up for self-hosted and GitHub-hosted repos." (view diff)
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[cleverdevil] So, eddie pointed out to me that https://cleverdevil.io/2017/grand-designs-season-16---county-antrim-the-blacksmiths-house-1 isn't parsing properly in woodwind.
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Loqi [Jonathan LaCour] Jonathan LaCour ...
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[cleverdevil] Looks like its not finding a `p-name` for the `h-entry`.
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[cleverdevil] Any recommendations on the markup I'm generating?
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aaronpk ooh i had this problem with my reviews too
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aaronpk i wanted the name to include text that is already inside the h-product
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aaronpk i think i ended up making a hidden element to set the p-name of the outer object explicitly :-/
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[cleverdevil] Gross.
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[cleverdevil] That's what I was planning on doing though ?
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[cleverdevil] So, good to know I'm not crazy@!
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[cleverdevil] Oh well, I am inclined to just leave it how it is, and say its Woodwind's problem.
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[cleverdevil] With nested markup, there's not really a good way to distinguish which `p-name` is designated for an `h-entry` vs. a `h-product`
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aaronpk nope
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aaronpk woodwind could be smart enough to know that's a review and pull out the properties better. but it's still nice to provide a fallback.
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dgold [cleverdevil] - I actually came here to say that too! I replied to it, and now its showing all messed up in my woodwind
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aaronpk oh actually you should wrap it in h-review if you can since that's a known top-level object
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[cleverdevil] Its not a review, its a "watched" record.
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aaronpk oh! nvm then
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[cleverdevil] So, an h-entry with a link to an h-product.
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[cleverdevil] Okay, I'll fiddle some more.
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[cleverdevil] I have an idea.
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dgold sebsel++ for the tiktok/micropub posy
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Loqi sebsel has 13 karma in this channel (47 overall)
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dgold got me through a lot of puzzling about running hooks with TikTokBot
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[cleverdevil] OK, I did the dirty hack.
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[cleverdevil] Should work now.
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[cleverdevil] But, I feel gross ?
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aaronparecki.com edited /p3k_naming_convention (+14) "+Overland" (view diff)
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loqi.me created /invisible_canoe (+18) "prompted by [kevinmarks] and dfn added by aaronpk" (view diff)
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[kevinmarks] We did used to have ways of telling the parser to look things up in an element with a different id, but it was far too hard to author and parse reliably
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[miklb] Tweetbot for iOS finally™ got native share sheet, will be one step closer to a workflow for better doing replies via micropub.
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[eddie] `+Overland` ...??
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KartikPrabhu what is Overland?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Overland" yet. Would you like to create it?
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KartikPrabhu what is Percolator?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Percolator" yet. Would you like to create it?
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aaronpk Percolator is a [[podcast]] by {{aaronpk}} available at https://percolator.today
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Loqi ok
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loqi.me created /Percolator (+108) "prompted by KartikPrabhu and dfn added by aaronpk" (view diff)
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aaronpk Overland is an [[iOS]] app for location tracking that can send its data to an custom server. {{aaronpk}} uses Overland to send his location to his website to do things like automatically set the timezone of posts, track bike rides and train trips, display the local weather, and more.
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Loqi ok
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loqi.me created /Overland (+311) "prompted by KartikPrabhu and dfn added by aaronpk" (view diff)
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aaronpk Overland << https://aaronparecki.com/gps/
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Loqi ok, I added "https://aaronparecki.com/gps/" to the "See Also" section of /Overland
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loqi.me edited /Overland (+49) "/* See Also */ new section" (view diff)
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Loqi [Aaron Parecki] My GPS Logs
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aaronpk Overland << https://github.com/aaronpk/Overland-iOS
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loqi.me edited /Overland (+42) "aaronpk added "https://github.com/aaronpk/Overland-iOS" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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Loqi ok, I added "https://github.com/aaronpk/Overland-iOS" to the "See Also" section of /Overland
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Loqi [aaronpk] Overland-iOS: GPS logger for iOS devices
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aaronpk Overland << Compass
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loqi.me edited /Overland (+14) "aaronpk added "[[Compass]]" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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Loqi ok, I added "[[Compass]]" to the "See Also" section of /Overland
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[eddie] Ohhhhh
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