#dev 2017-10-04

2017-10-04 UTC
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[keithjgrant] BTW, if any Windows users want to test out Omnibear in MS Edge, that would be awesome. I'm all Mac here.
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aaronpk Hm I have a windows vm, might be able to test it tomorrow
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www.boffosocko.com edited /Posts_about_the_IndieWeb (+538) "Taking back control over my content by Sameer Vasta; other archived versions" (view diff)
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www.boffosocko.com created /Blot (+809) "Blot.im project stub" (view diff)
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sebsel dgold yaay! glad is was useful :)
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loqi.me created /Bypass_Paywalls (+347) "prompted by petermolnar and dfn added by petermolnar" (view diff)
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dgold hey sebsel, hope you're still here
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dgold I've been using the API to make response calls, and that works fine
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sebsel I am
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sebsel TikTokBot's API/
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sebsel ?
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dgold _but_ when I use your system, a json payload as response code from a php script, the bot isn't 'speaking'
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sebsel I had problems with that too. I forgot the details, but you can try to use form-encoded instead of JSON, look if that works?
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dgold dang - I'd hoped you'd remember the details!
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dgold <sad trombone>
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sebsel goes to talk to his bot
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sebsel No, it actually works with json_encode() for me.
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dgold double dang
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dgold I'm looking at my logs - all is well, the bot speaks to the php server, it gets back the json payload, but then it sputters out
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sebsel okay...
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sebsel I use this as a 'framework' on the php-server side https://gist.github.com/sebsel/05368dd1d75b1b65cd878d241ed46bd6
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sebsel so then I can just <?php include "framework.php"; $bot->respond('hi');
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sebsel If you have another language you prefer over PHP: this part of the bot can be in any language, as long as it responds with JSON.
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sebsel I see I set a Content-Type header at the top of that file, that might be a thing?
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dgold we have a winner!
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dgold worked first time, sebsel
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sebsel nice :)
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dgold sebsel++ for unearthing the dark art of his php scripting abilities
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Loqi sebsel has 14 karma in this channel (48 overall)
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sebsel Seems like it indeed was that Content-Type header :)
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sebsel I've updated the post.
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dgold yay!
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Loqi ?
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[keithjgrant] aaronpk it looks like Edge requires extensions to be packaged differently than the other browsers. I don't think Omnibear will work there
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[keithjgrant] I thought they were on board with the WebExtensions approach ?
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sknebel [keithjgrant]: what do you mean?
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sknebel you can't publish them freely yet, but it's webextensions
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sknebel I've got omnibear loaded right now
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[keithjgrant] Oh cool. Their docs didn't make that very clear,then
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sknebel (it doesn't work, but it loads after a few small changes to the manifest)
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sknebel if you could document how I can get a non-minified build that'd be helpful
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[keithjgrant] We might need to disable minification in the dev webpack config. Probably should do that, regardless
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dgold could it be safari'd [keithjgrant] ?
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sknebel dgold: don't think Safari has joined the webextension effort
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sknebel oh, but their APIs apparently are somewhat similar, so maybe?
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sknebel I somehow had something different in mind
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sebsel the problem with Safari is that you need an Apple Developer thingy for $99 a year
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sknebel ah, right, fun
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sknebel to develop, or just to publish?
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sebsel bit of both. You can develop for free, but it will de-install al unsigned extensions when you quit Safari.
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sknebel mh
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sknebel yeah, that's the trend, other browsers also crack down on using dev mode to use an unreleased extension
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sknebel (well, I don't even own apple hardware, so I can't help with a safari port anyways. and can try to help with Edge, but not sure it's really important due to critical lack of users)
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dgold ugh. apple developer thingy. forgot about that
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dgold safari's great, for battery life, but the trade offs are fairly offputting
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dgold e.g. favicons on tabs
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[keithjgrant] I really wish I could figure out why the icon doesn't work in Firefox
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dgold love the UI, [keithjgrant]
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[keithjgrant] There's a whole slew of questions about it on Stack Overflow, but no real answers
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[keithjgrant] Thanks! ?
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sknebel hm, the only other extension I remember messing with the icon rendered it itself
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dgold that icon is vv nice also
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aaronpk I just signed up for the Apple developer program so I could publish the extension under that if you ever want
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sebsel yeah, it's weird because the icon does show up on all places, it just does not show up in the menubar.
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dgold aaronpk: your podcast is way too short to be a proper apple developer!
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aaronpk Say what?
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aaronpk You don’t need an Apple developer account to submit a podcast. You can do that without paying.
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dgold proper apple ecosystem podcasts have to be seven hours long!
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dgold and you haven't even been condescending to anyone..
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sknebel weird, I can't install omnibear temporarily in Firefox? shouldn't I be able to just zip the dist-folder for that?
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aaronpk I’m in the middle of publishing my gps tracker app to the App Store
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loqi.me created /Micropub_apps (+61) "prompted by sebsel and dfn added by sebsel" (view diff)
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aaronpk dgold: oh lol
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sknebel ah, nvm, forgot about about:debugging
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[keithjgrant] Yeah, about:debugging. Add file from /dist (not the zipped package)
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sknebel [keithjgrant]: explicitly setting the icon solved it for me, you have a PR
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sknebel (sorry for not rebuilding /dist, don't have a dev environment available right now)
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[keithjgrant] Oh, awesome! Thanks
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Zegnat sknebel: I might try this one https://github.com/layershifter/gumbo-php looks interesting.
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Loqi [layershifter] gumbo-php: Low-level PHP extension for HTML5
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aaronpk whoa
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Zegnat (We were talking about how PHP lacks a HTML5 parser on the vHWC)
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barryfrost.com edited /Jekyll (+175) "/* IndieWeb Support */ Update on PR progress." (view diff)
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aaronpk sebsel: https://media.aaronpk.com/Screen-Shot-2017-10-04-10-28-03-OWZSDs5rNz.jpg
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aaronpk "in review"
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aaronpk oh hey, the facebook movie is 7 years old
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aaronpk as of a couple days ago
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Zegnat aaronpk, did you read XKCD? ;)
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aaronpk yea hehe
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aaronpk !xkcd facebook movie
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Loqi http://xkcd.com/918/ http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/googleplus.png
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aaronpk nope hehe
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Zegnat ha
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[keithjgrant] I got my dad on Twitter and have regretted it ever since ?
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tantek.com edited /User:Sebastianlasse.de (+73) "add h-card" (view diff)
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tantek !tell [keithjgrant] check out the start of https://air.mozilla.org/mozilla-weekly-project-meeting-20171002/ - hopefully you'll see a bump in download / usage of Omnibear :)
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi Mozilla Weekly Project Meeting
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tantek nice find in #microformats KevinMarks
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tantek that post about Pingerati may be one of my earliest post-on-my-own-site, syndicate elsewhere blog posts http://tantek.com/log/2006/05.html#d31t1802 (before Twitter AFAIK)
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Loqi Introducing Microformats Search and Pingerati
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tantek and I got way more comments on the original post on my site, than the copy posted on the company site (which is only in Internet Archive now)
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tantek also pingerati(.)net apparently expired and got picked up by a squatter :/
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[kevinmarks] I wasn't sure if it warranted a wiki page
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[miklb] glanced through scrollback, did I see Omnibear for Safari mentioned?
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tantek it sounds like a possibility with some challenges
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[miklb] that would be most excellent.
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