#dev 2017-10-12

2017-10-12 UTC
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loqi.me created /AppleID (+21) "prompted by tantek and dfn added by tantek" (view diff)
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /Apple_ID (+1) "linkify ('… is <url>' pattern)" (view diff)
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grantcodes @eddie @cleverdevil The way I saw the current filters were as filtering one channel, there is no concept of channels yet in together. (It will obviously need to come at some point)
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aaronpk interesting idea about the filter
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grantcodes The trouble with indieweb post kinds though is they are quite ambiguous, with just that small sample data I have in together many of the posts appear in multiple filters
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tantek grantcodes that's the trouble with trying to distinguish post kinds in general
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grantcodes true
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[eddie] Yeah, grantcodes, it is tricky. There is probably some extra property detection that can help narrow some of that down. I’ve done a lot of “type detection” code on my website that might be helpful.
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tantek what is post type discovery?
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Loqi Post Type Discovery specifies an algorithm for determining the type of a post by what properties it has and potentially what value(s) they have, which helps avoid the need for explicit post types that are being abandoned by modern post creation UIs https://indieweb.org/post-type-discovery
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tantek ^^^ see that for starters
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[eddie] Exactly, I have a JavaScript version of that
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aaronpk in my sketches of how I want to build Monocle, I was planning on assigning each channel a "theme" in Monocle, so I might have a channel that shows things as posts, another that shows things as a photo grid, another that shows a map view and pins for each post, etc
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aaronpk still have some more things to think through there but that was how i was going to approach it
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tantek aaronpk or you can allow view switches
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grantcodes Yeah I just did the minimum recommended in https://indieweb.org/post_kinds#Inferring_post_kinds_from_properties
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tantek like how instagram does on profiles
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aaronpk yes that too
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aaronpk but each will have a default view
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tantek makes sense
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grantcodes That was the plan for together as well
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[eddie] Nice, I like that “theme” approach. Especially the things like a map view
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grantcodes @eddie the filters for together are here: https://github.com/cleverdevil/together/blob/master/src/reducers/post-kinds.js feel free to change them
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[eddie] Awesome, I’ll compare it with the ones of my site and see where I can improve it a little ?
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davidized.com edited /Homebrew_Website_Club (+76) "/* More cities with interest */ Add Rochester, MN" (view diff)
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grantcodes Cool! Just bear in mind the posts are JF2 format
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[eddie] ?
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[eddie] My storage is pretty close to jf2, might be a bit off though so I’ll double check and test locally before I push anything
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[kevinmarks] aaronpk like the blogger js view modes?
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@khurtwilliams @danielbrinneman I'm experimenting with microformats. This theme supports that. Also using webmentions https://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/webmentions-annotations-web-standards/ (twitter.com/_/status/918439837824372736)
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@keithjgrant What the new Webmention and Annotation W3C standards mean for Wordpress https://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/webmentions-annotations-web-standards/ (twitter.com/_/status/918481409815269378)
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loqi.me edited /Facebook (+187) "tantek added "2015-12-11 Fast Company: [https://www.fastcompany.com/3054592/donald-trump-can-post-hate-speech-to-facebook-but-you-cant Donald Trump Can Post Hate Speech To Facebook, But You Can’t]" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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loqi.me edited /Facebook (+141) "tantek added "2015-12-18 NiemanLab / Anjali Mullany: [http://www.niemanlab.org/2015/12/platforms-decide-who-gets-heard/ Platforms decide who gets heard]" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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scottmathson.com created /User:Scottmathson.com (+85) "Created page with "Scott Mathson(https://scottmathson.com/) * Twitter(https://twitter.com/scottmathson)"" (view diff)
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loqi.me edited /silo-quits (+174) "tantek added "2015-09-30 The Telegraph: [http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/11537494/Why-do-celebrities-leave-Twitter.html Why do celebrities like Lena Dunham leave Twitter?]" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Liquid (+35) "move dfn back to top, move summary links to a How section, shorten Why heading consistent with other pages, IndieWeb Examples stub" (view diff)
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tantek Welcome Scottmathson! Hope you find use here in chat too!
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tantek s/use/us
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[kevinmarks] This is interesting re ssl https://blog.acolyer.org/2017/10/11/trustbase-an-architecture-to-repair-and-strengthen-certificate-based-authentication/
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loqi.me edited /webcam (+235) "tantek added "2017-10-05 The Next Web: [https://thenextweb.com/gear/2017/10/05/woman-films-internet-connected-camera-whispering-hola-senorita/ https://thenextweb.com/gear/2017/10/05/woman-films-internet-connected-camera-whispering-hola-senorita/]" to" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /webcam (+181) "move article to iot section, subsection Criticisms, vulnerable in heading" (view diff)
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loqi.me edited /smart_speaker (+369) "/* See Also */ new section" (view diff)
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loqi.me edited /smart_speaker (+219) "tantek added "2017-10-10 Android Police: [http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/10/10/google-nerfing-home-minis-mine-spied-everything-said-247/ Google is permanently nerfing all Home Minis because mine spied on everything I said 24/7]" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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loqi.me created /Benbot (+227) "prompted by tantek and dfn added by tantek" (view diff)
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@ChrisAldrich Turning Webmentions into comments for native display on #WordPress #facepile #IndieWeb http://boffosocko.com/2017/10/06/using-facepiles-in-comments-for-wordpress-with-webmentions-and-semantic-linkbacks/#Turning+mentions+into+comments (twitter.com/_/status/918557867975827462)
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loqi.me edited /smart_speaker (+10) "tantek added "Benbort" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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@ChrisAldrich @mrkrndvs Aaron, I've updated the post to add some details for making your changes manually if necessary. http://boffosocko.com/2017/10/06/using-facepiles-in-comments-for-wordpress-with-webmentions-and-semantic-linkbacks/#Turning+mentions+into+comments (twitter.com/_/status/918559353304576000)
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loqi.me edited /smart_speaker (+13) "tantek added "[[Benbot]]" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /smart_speaker (-10) "-Benbort" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /smart_speaker (+263) "add indieweb relevance to dfn prompted by milkb, note subvertable criticism per existing ciation" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Indie_Box (+17) "note the key from home bit" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /User:Tantek.com (+67) "/* community projects */ link my microformats to do list" (view diff)
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[eddie] !tell grantcodes: My PRs got a little messy but https://github.com/cleverdevil/together/pull/10 has some additional type checks to help clear out some of the duplicate posts across filters.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi [EdwardHinkle] #10 Clean timeline
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grantcodes Cool merged!
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Loqi grantcodes: [eddie] left you a message 8 minutes ago: My PRs got a little messy but https://github.com/cleverdevil/together/pull/10 has some additional type checks to help clear out some of the duplicate posts across filters.
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