#dev 2017-10-18

2017-10-18 UTC
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jeffperry So I am having a ton of trouble getting Indieweb set up on my Wordpress blog. I tried using indiewebify.me to help with this but I am beyond lost.
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@ciudadanoB @Fernan @DarioBF @octuweb @EnlacePermanent Puedo hacerte una mención honorífica. O dar caña para que el mundo siga implementando las webmentions y pudieras contestar en tu blog :P (twitter.com/_/status/920600045212270592)
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tantek what is Share API
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Share API" yet. Would you like to create it?
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schmarty !tell jeffperry the resources on https://indieweb.org/Getting_Started_on_WordPress might help streamline things for you
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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aaronpk this is a cute idea, i might try this with some of my projects https://spatie.be/en/opensource
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Loqi SPATIE bvba
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aaronpk "postcardware"
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aaronpk "free to use if you send us a postcard"
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snarfed postcardware++
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Loqi postcardware has 1 karma
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[eddie] haha that's awesome!
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Loqi awesome
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dgold can imagine that postcardware would be a nightmare for compliance
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aaronpk so are most open source licenses tho :P
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sknebel "You're free to use this package (it's MIT-licensed), but if it makes it to your production environment we highly appreciate sending us a postcard from your hometown, mentioning which of our package(s) you are using."
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sknebel sounds not that hard to comply with
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sknebel and yes, cute idea
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Zegnat I can see it being a nightmare when people start arguing whether it counts as an extension to the MIT (e.g. the request has to be copied with the licence everywhere) and how much of a demand “highly appreciate” is.
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aaronpk maybe i'll make OwnYourSwarm subscriptions work via postcards. you have to mail me a postcard every 3 months to keep your account active
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sknebel lol
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sknebel does it count as commercial if you are paid in postcards?
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Zegnat It definitely would count as a transaction. Barter trade is still trade under many countries’ law. The real question is how to add VAT ;)
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dgold VATMOSS!
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @calum_ryan: I also pull in Swarm checkins via http://ownyourswarm.com, and send out webmentions myself (twitter.com/_/status/920704177382330372)
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tantek what is VATMOSS?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "VATMOSS" yet. Would you like to create it?
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dgold tantek: VAT Mini OneStopShop Scheme
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dgold the EU's wonderful idea to 'simplify' VAT on cross-border supply of goods
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dgold where 'simplify' == ludicrous over-complexity and reporting overhears
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GWG Hello, all
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schmarty o/ GWG
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GWG How are you, schmarty?
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GWG Anything new Indieweb wise?
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schmarty i'm well, thanks! finally posted a write-up of my IWCNYC hack day project. dropped in on vHWC. HWC Baltimore later today.
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schmarty how are things with you?
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GWG I fixed some timezone issues that I needed to be out of my timezone to discover.
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GWG I have been field testing OYG and OYS
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GWG And know what I need to do to improve support for them
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schmarty that sounds pretty exciting!
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GWG My tour ends tomorrow, and so I have the weekend to kill before I head somewhere on business, may work on it
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GWG Have you seen my site?
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schmarty not lately!
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schmarty lots of checkins!
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GWG I joined Swarm to test it and let people follow my vacation
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GWG I want to get my native stuff working
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GWG Lots of presentation improvements to make
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schmarty native checkins?
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GWG Yes.
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GWG The feature is only half completed
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schmarty i am interested in your UX for that. i would love checkins that go directly to my site without swarm.
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loqi.me edited /Mumble (+112) "sknebel added "used for vHWC EU 2017-10-18, worked well. Quality issues with web client. Push2talk best send control setting" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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GWG That is the hard part
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GWG Why I am doing it in stages.
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dgold sknebel: I got that hugo-mf2 namespace thing sorted
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sknebel Great!
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dgold wrote these two php functions: http://tinyurl.com/y9ne8bqk [ https://gist.github.com/dg01d/d90b00b733b4cec7817bc15b69f91651 ]
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dgold oh, there's another function that those two make no sense without
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dgold updated
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vanderven.se martijn edited /Planning (+54) "Show interest in Leaders Summit Berlin" (view diff)
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GWG snarfed, quick question. Would you object to a query filter in Micropub? To allow me to respond to queries of the endpoint outside of the plugin?
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www.boffosocko.com edited /Known (+243) "Hosts with One click install; typography" (view diff)
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www.boffosocko.com created /Reclaim_Hosting (+1702) "basic definition; relation to IndieWeb" (view diff)
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snarfed GWG: there's already the before_micropub filter, try that?
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GWG snarfed: I'll have a look. I'm not sure that can do queries.
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snarfed it can
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GWG Will reread
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snarfed GWG: test that it runs on queries: https://github.com/snarfed/wordpress-micropub/blob/master/tests/test_micropub.php#L254
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