#dev 2017-10-17

2017-10-17 UTC
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Loqi mblaney: snarfed left you a message 9 hours, 13 minutes ago: sorry for the trouble! yeah, if you don't send Accept-Encoding, that actually means you're ok with any encoding, including gzip. https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7231#section-5.3.4
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Loqi mblaney: snarfed left you a message 9 hours, 12 minutes ago: looks like you have to send something like Accept-Encoding: identity to disable it...but that doesn't work here either. (i don't control this serving path; google does.) i'll see what i can do.
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[kevinmarks] The trouble with developing in the UK is that in the winter you are in the Z timezone.
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mblaney thanks snarfed, good to know.
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mblaney adding the encoding check is pretty easy, I've got it discovering the endpoint now, but sending the webmention returns 500 from fed.brid.gy.
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snarfed hey mblaney, thanks for trying bridgy fed! that 500 is actually due to a 500 from the mastodon instance itself :(
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snarfed i need to change that to a 502
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snarfed mblaney: try a mastodon instance on 1.6, e.g. https://mastodon.technology/ or https://mastodon.social/
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snarfed (bne.social is only 1.4.3)
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[kevinmarks] having to set up .well-known is the blocker for me.
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[kevinmarks] (not Ryan's fault)
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mblaney ok sending a webmention for https://mastodon.technology/@snarfed/3194674 was successful, but I had to change it to u-in-reply-to.
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Loqi [Ryan Barrett] Working on connecting Mastodon with the #IndieWeb! https://fed.brid.gy/ https://snarfed.org/indieweb-ostatus-bridge
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aaronpk change from what?
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mblaney I got a 400 Bad Request for sending u-like-of
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snarfed hey mblaney, glad you're trying bridgy fed more! looks like some progress. i'll be around in 60-90m to help debug
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snarfed mblaney: i'm fixing the in-reply-to bug now, thanks for finding it
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snarfed i'm also planning to pass through fedsocnet error responses
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mblaney no worries snarfed, happy to have a go.
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mblaney it would be good to know why my reply didn't show up on your post linked to above, I haven't implemented enough to think that it should work but it would help to find what I should fix first.
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snarfed mblaney: yes! mastodon returned 202 to bridgy fed's activitypub post instead of 201, which means it accepted but won't display it. i'll go back through notes to find out why exactly.
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snarfed aaronpk: just fyi the line permalinks on https://chat.indieweb.org/ seem to be timezone confused
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snarfed eg the later lines on https://chat.indieweb.org/2017-10-16 have permalinks like https://chat.indieweb.org/2017-10-17#t1508206099546000
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calumryan !tell barryf fixed the rsvps that weren’t showing on https://hwclondon.co.uk/meetups/20171018 Looks like the script behind this was trying to handle non-rsvp webmentions that threw the error
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi 18 October 2017 HWC London meeting
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tantek any idea why I was seeing the {{ }} thing?
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calumryan I suspect it’s the Vue.js template delaying render, the site’s built on Jekyll (hence static generated)
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tantek ohhh
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sknebel tantek: did you have scripts blocked? if I do that, I get that as well
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sknebel needed to whitelist unpkg and webmention.io
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tantek just odd that the fallback would show {{ }} code
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calumryan In that case might need to add v-cloak to hide uncompiled components https://vuejs.org/v2/api/#v-cloak
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petermolnar I'm trying to figure out if headless chrome can be told to save a the page as mhtml but I've found nothing so far. If anyone knows the answer, please give one: https://superuser.com/questions/1259542/headless-chrome-save-page-as-mhtml?noredirect=1#comment1852614_1259542
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petermolnar eh, wrong paste: https://superuser.com/questions/1259542/headless-chrome-save-page-as-mhtml
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[barryf] Thanks for fixing, calumryan.
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Loqi [barryf]: calumryan left you a message 3 hours, 10 minutes ago: fixed the rsvps that weren’t showing on https://hwclondon.co.uk/meetups/20171018 Looks like the script behind this was trying to handle non-rsvp webmentions that threw the error
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[kevinmarks] Hm, did mine not make it through?
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[kevinmarks] http://known.kevinmarks.com/2017/yes-is-there-a-facebook-posse-copy
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Loqi [Kevin Marks] Yes: Is there a facebook POSSE copy?
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sknebel is on the train, trying to wrap head around activitypub
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sknebel Do mastodon etc use the sharedInbox system already?
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[eddie] aaronpk: Almost there, but a bit confused. Wondering if you have an easy direction to point me in. I think I have all the indieauth code right, I tried to make it function as closely to the login functions as possible while working with different databases.
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[eddie] aaronpk: When I get to verifyAuthCode it returns the me, and an empty state param
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[eddie] Response code 200
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aaronpk what returns that?
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[eddie] oops
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[eddie] When exchanging the code for token, it returns me and scope
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[eddie] empty scope, not empty state ?
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[eddie] so I end up with no access_token
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[eddie] I'm using my login which uses IndieAuth
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aaronpk ah sounds like you need to request the authorization code instead of just login
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[eddie] ohhhhh
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aaronpk https://indieweb.org/obtaining-an-access-token#Request
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[eddie] That makes sense. I tried to be too similar to the compass login haha
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Loqi nice
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aaronpk yep! cause compass doesn't need an access token, it's just signing the user in
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[eddie] That makes sense ? And it makes sense that I haven't run into this before because typically I'm writing from scratch so I follow the spec with a closer eye. haha
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[miklb] hmm. So snarfed updated the docs for fed.brid.gy but I’m still a little confused.
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[miklb] I _think_ @memiklb.com can now be followed
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[miklb] not sure how to test that though
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aaronpk whoops, Slack is over-eagerly matching that `@miklb`
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aaronpk for those of you on IRC that's @me@miklb.com
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[miklb] thanks
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aaronpk it didn't show up when I searched for it from mastodon.social
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tantek is not so into the ATATs
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aaronpk same
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tantek too cumbersome and vulnerable to harpoon cables
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[eddie] ?
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[eddie] tantek++
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Loqi tantek has 15 karma in this channel (390 overall)
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sknebel does searching do discovery, or do you have to explicitly follow it before the instance knows about it?
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aaronpk the search box was finding snarfed. not sure if that's cause he had already added himself there or what
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aaronpk i couldn't find anything else in the UI that would let me type in a name tho
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[miklb] I checked the search and nothing shows up
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sknebel hm, no, according to docs searching for an external profile is supposed to work
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[miklb] for me. I do see snarfed in the search. Maybe I don’t have it properly wired up. I have pfefferle’s pubsubhubbub plugin, an atom feed & I configured the nginx conf
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[miklb] I did set up a mastodon.social account
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[miklb] wonder if I need to add a new hub url for mastodon
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[eddie] aaronpk: I have my micropub endpoint and token in the Compass now. Watching my server for a micropub request but haven't seen anything yet. I see the trip on my server (the pink colored section?)
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sknebel [miklb]: when I try to access the webfinger thing the url I get redirected to seems wrong, but I'm not 100% sure what it's supposed to be. guess you'll have to ask snarfed to help debug
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[eddie] how long does it typically take for compass to process and send a trip to the server. Since I've never done this before, I'm not sure if I have all the job process stuff set up correctly.
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aaronpk [eddie]: you'll need to run the worker
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[eddie] aaronpk: ahh okay. Is that something you've added to cron on your server?
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aaronpk not cron, it's a separate process that runs continuously
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aaronpk you can try it on the command line: php artisan queue:listen
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[eddie] ohh interesting
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[eddie] hmmm I ran it but nothing seems to be happening. My micropub server hasn't registered any activity (not even errors)
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[eddie] At the end of the compass log I see: [2017-10-17 16:05:11] lumen.INFO: Got a trip record
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aaronpk check laravel.log
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[eddie] hmmm in the same directory? I only have a lumen.log in that directory
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aaronpk Should be in storage/logs
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[eddie] hmm yeah, just lumen.log in there
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aaronpk oh yeah that's what it's called
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aaronpk forgot this was before they moved all the lumen stuff back into laravel
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[eddie] aaronpk: Ohhh gotcha. All that's showing up in the log since I've started the artisan queue is: [2017-10-17 16:05:11] lumen.INFO: Got a trip record
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[eddie] [2017-10-17 16:35:28] lumen.INFO: Got a trip record which really came from me sending test trips from the app
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[miklb] sknebel, ah I see now, somewhere it’s getting an extra trailing slash in the redirect
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[miklb] https://fed.brid.gy//.well-known/webfinger
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sknebel [miklb]: yep, that looked odd to me
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[miklb] I opened an issue.
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sknebel [miklb]: just remove the slash from the nginx syntax and try again if it works then?
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sknebel so https://fed.brid.gy$request_uri redirect instead of https://fed.brid.gy/$request_uri redirect
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[miklb] I removed the / in front of .well-known and then I get a 404
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[miklb] oh, that one. I’ll try
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[miklb] that removes the extra trailing slash but still returns a 400 on fed.brid.gy
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[miklb] making progress. Getting an error saying can’t find a representative h-card on miklb.com
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snarfed hey, glad to hear progress! and thanks for the doc issue, will fix
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snarfed it uses mf2util to find representative h-card, which afaik follows http://microformats.org/wiki/representative-h-card-parsing pretty well
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Loqi representative-h-card-parsing
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[miklb] I totally see my h-card is broken. Not sure when I did that
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snarfed sknebel, re mastodon and activitypub sharedInbox, yes! looks like they've supported it since their first AP release, 1.6
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snarfed fetching a mastodon AS2 profile with e.g. curl -v -H 'Accept: application/activity+json' https://mastodon.technology/@snarfed includes:
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snarfed "endpoints": {"sharedInbox": "https://mastodon.technology/inbox"}
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[eddie] !tell aaronpk: When you get a chance later today (no rush) here's a gist that contains some errors that appeared while running php artisan queue:listen
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[eddie] https://gist.github.com/EdwardHinkle/acf886dbc4bd03c172998338b1639353
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sknebel snarfed: thx, then I can peek at what they are doing for examples. that section of the spec weren't all that clear
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sknebel *wasn't
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snarfed it's new since may
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aaronpk [eddie]: that's weird
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aaronpk looks like namespacing errors
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snarfed oh it just
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snarfed oh it's just a renaming of publicInbox. got it
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aaronpk did you say you're on PHP 7?
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[eddie] yep 7.0.22
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sknebel (already filed an issue complaining about a specific sentence, but I'll have to think up a friendly way of "I have no idea what a request can and can't look like after reading this" for another one)
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aaronpk i don't think i've run this in 7 yet. not sure if there was a lot of changes related to namespacing between 5 and 7 but I didn't think there was
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[eddie] ohhh interesting
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[eddie] you're on 5?
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aaronpk 5.6 yeah
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aaronpk i'm not quite ready to update everything to 7, but it's getting close to the time i will need to
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[eddie] gotcha. Well that helps I can try using these errors and look through PHP 7 changes and see if that can shed some light on stuff. If so, I'll make a new branch for php7 with any changes I need to make to get things working on my system and that will provide a starting base when you need to head that way.
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[eddie] !tell sebsel What version of PHP are you using with Compass? (You are using compass if I remember correctly)
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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dgold working my way through the micropub.rocks to make nanopub more feature-complete
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dgold there would appear to be some, shall we say, _difficulties_ in that the tests look for some properties to be returned as an array
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dgold so e.g. "published": [ "$date" ]
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sknebel dgold: "some"? shouldn't *all* properties be arrays?
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aaronpk yeah, everything should be returned as an array. hopefully that rule makes it simpler because there are no exceptions for vocabularies
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dgold whereas this breaks Hugo, which looks for "published": "date"
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dgold sknebel: they're in an array, just the actual _properties_ are spec'd as arrays, even when like publication date, there's only one property
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aaronpk it corresponds to the parsed microformats JSON format
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sknebel yes, in mf2 json every property always has an array of values
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dgold oh, I know, and I understand. I have the implementation working, just now left with tying that back to Hugo
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sknebel yeah. in my implementation I basically have a list of properties I can't handle in duplicate, and then just run a function over all of them that pulls the first entry out and complains if there are more than that
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GWG Evening
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GWG I need to check time zone handling by people other than aaronpk
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sknebel ?
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GWG In Micropub clients
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sknebel ah
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GWG Who has a test mode like Quill's
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GWG snarfed, code works in production
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snarfed GWG: great!
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GWG snarfed, that is what I care about most. Works for me
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GWG Everyone else is good too
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snarfed great! can't wait to merge once the old tests are back in
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GWG I intend to do it
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GWG snarfed: Test returned? Merge?
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snarfed GWG: looks great! and the tests passed on circle: https://github.com/snarfed/wordpress-micropub/pull/76#partial-pull-merging
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snarfed merging now
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snarfed thanks for sticking with the tests!
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GWG lets out a woohoo
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GWG blows his noisemaker
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snarfed heh. congrats!
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GWG plays the Stars and Stripes Forever
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GWG Okay, party over
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aaronpk ?
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GWG snarfed: I concurrently added 4 lines to Simple Location that takes the timezone parameter the Micropub plugin now passes, if present, and uses it to change the displayed timezone to the right one.
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GWG Simple Location already has that feature
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[miklb] GWG++
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Loqi gwg has 14 karma in this channel (263 overall)
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@iamJeffPerry Diving into this Indieweb stuff with no coding knowledge was actually easier that I thought. (twitter.com/_/status/920412020641533952)
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[miklb] w00t looks like I got fed.brid.gy working. Now to see if it shows up in Mastodon
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gRegorLove awesome!
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[miklb] hmm. not showing up but https://bridgy-federated.appspot.com/.well-known/webfinger?resource=miklb.com looks good
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[miklb] ?
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snarfed [miklb]: yeah honestly i didn't really do much/any work on getting original posts to show up in mastodon
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snarfed mostly just federating responses back and forth
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snarfed i should look more at federating original posts
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[miklb] no worries. I can search and find @mesnarfed.org but my domain not showing up
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Loqi yea
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snarfed yeah i'm probably in there only because i sent it a reply, not because my site is set up any specific way
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[miklb] gotcha
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snarfed theoretically discovery should just work, based on https://github.com/tootsuite/mastodon/issues/1441#issuecomment-302969948 , but evidently it doesn't
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Loqi [Gargron] >an Atom feed with activitystream data Just an Atom feed will do too, but it needs to contain a link to a Pubsubhubbub hub >webfinger support Yes. Link to Atom feed, link to profile, link to salmon, magic key >an XRD at .well-known/host-...
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[miklb] I’ll keep poking at it as ideas come along. Thanks for all the work thus far
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