#dev 2017-11-21

2017-11-21 UTC
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tantek.com edited /timeline (+2823) "note needs for additional specific dates for various technologies, implementations" (view diff)
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loqi.me edited /to-do (+164) "tantek added " help with tracking down (with citations!) the YYYY-MM-DD dates for the items listed here that would be helpful! [[timeline#Needs_Dates_and_incorporation_above]]" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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loqi.me edited /to-do (+189) "tantek added "Write a descriptions of how indieweb [[building blocks]] have been tied together in various implementations to make a clearer more complete independent (decentralized) social web picture" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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Zegnat Darn, I was hoping for an u-author link to me in the h-entry cassis, but I don't think tantek ended up using my suggested fixes https://github.com/tantek/cassis/issues/4 ?
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Loqi [Zegnat] #4 Math error in trim() causing single character strings to be dropped.
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Zegnat Also, gasp, that issue is 7 years old?!
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petermolnar tantek sorry for sending you down that rabbit hole of rss/atom unholyness :)
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@EddieHinkle @dwlz My code is open source right here: https://github.com/EdwardHinkle/indigenous-ios/blob/master/Indigenous/IndieAuth/IndieAuthLoginViewController.swift (I’m still a new iOS Programmer so ignore all the things that are probably bad haha). My SFAuthenticationSession is inside of loginWithIndieAuth section if you want to compare to your current use and see if there is diff (twitter.com/_/status/932993857599492097)
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@EddieHinkle @dwlz If you enter https://eddiehinkle.com into the url field it should trigger SFAuthenticationSession to the domain http://IndieAuth.com (you won’t be able to do the full login cycle but you’ll be able to click the pop up confirmation and see the web browser login page appear) (twitter.com/_/status/933005252021882880)
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raretrack.uk edited /User:Raretrack.uk (+12) "Migrated from Google Calendar" (view diff)
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aaronparecki.com edited /authorship (+334) "/* Questions */" (view diff)
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amz3 what do you think about a search engine for the indie web?
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amz3 I would it be different from a regular search engine?
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amz3 s/I/How/
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aaronpk certainly a search engine like twitter search that searches everyone's own websites would be useful
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ancarda Hmm, possibly it could crawl/index pages that have h-card's and h-entry's -- so it could find people and content
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ancarda That would help close 1 gap I see with moving off silos; I can search Twitter for #hashtag, and find discussions related to that topic. I can't really do that with IndieWeb, as far as I know
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aaronpk right now you can search any normal search engine, or even superfeedr
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aaronpk but it's not ideal
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[miklb] I thought snarfed’s thing was the start to that.
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aaronpk sure but it doesn't continually crawl
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[miklb] can’t remember the name or url
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aaronpk what is indiestats?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "indiestats" yet. Would you like to create it?
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aaronpk oops
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aaronpk what is indiemap?
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Loqi indie map is a public IndieWeb social graph and dataset, made by Ryan Barrett and launched at IndieWeb Summit 2017 http://www.indiemap.org https://indieweb.org/indiemap
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snarfed not really a search engine. https://search.cweiske.de/ is though!
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aaronpk oh yeah, I forgot it crawls more than just his site and the IRC Logs
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snarfed this idea comes up regularly, and every time it does, i'm curious what the value or use case would be. when would you want to search over only indieweb sites?
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aaronpk for me it's more about a search result interface that is optimized around short twitter-like posts
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snarfed er, sorry, aaronpk already mentioned that q
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snarfed ah ok
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aaronpk I don't like the google search result interface when trying to find tweets for example
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amz3 snarfed: that's the question I ask
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amz3 aaronpk: I see what you mean
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aaronpk I want something that shows results like twitter search, but that searches across websites
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aaronpk it's not about limiting to h-entry and "indieweb sites", it's about presenting the results in a format that's nicer to look at and interact with
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snarfed microblog search, like google's old blog search
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[miklb] ?
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aaronpk yeah pretty much
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amz3 right now I am experimenting with building a custom search engine, but I did not come to the point when you can index particular fields like snarfed's search
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amz3 the thing is that I don't use elastic search or postgres full text search I create my own database, basically re-inventing the wheel
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amz3 the good thing is that I stumble upon intersting issues
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snarfed s/search/dataset/
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amz3 snarfed: what do you mean?
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snarfed mine (indie map) isn't really a search engine, it's a queryable dataset
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snarfed minor semantic point. ignore me.
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amz3 snarfed: interesting
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amz3 snarfed: do you use an inverted index?
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amz3 you translate search queries into SQL queries?
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amz3 using the LIKe operator or something like that?
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snarfed2 amz3: read the docs! :P http://www.indiemap.org/docs.html
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Loqi [Ryan Barrett] Indie Map
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snarfed2 it doesn't handle search queries
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snarfed the data is stored in a couple forms, WARC files and google bigquery, a data warehouse (ie designed for analytics, not end user applications)
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amz3 tx
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amz3 snarfed++
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sknebel anyone know offhand how I can have nginx use the result of a subrequest to decide how to handle the actual request? some kind of access control feature/module?
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petermolnar sknebel I have no idea what you're after
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aaronpk sknebel: check out the auth_request module
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sknebel if someone requests /my/path, fetch /special/my/path, if that returns 200 let it pass, otherwise abort the main request with an error code
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aaronpk depending on what you're doing, this may be already done for you: https://github.com/bnfinet/lasso
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Loqi [bnfinet] lasso: an SSO and OAuth login solution for nginx using the auth_request module
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aaronpk yep that's exactly what the auth_request module does
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[kevinmarks] I'm getting Technorati flashbacks. Though if it was limited to mf2 it would be less of a scaling challenge
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