#dev 2017-11-30

2017-11-30 UTC
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aaronpk RSS appears to have no concept of author URL
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aaronpk and by RSS I actually mean the Dublin Core extension that's used for author info since RSS 1.0 never bothered to specify authorship
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gRegorLove oh cool, you're using picofeed? I started mf2 support on that a while back. Yet another thing I should get back to.
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aaronpk heh i'm using picofeed for fallback support for Atom and RSS. I wrote my own mf2 feed parsing separately
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aaronpk i'm not sure what to do about this new getAuthorUrl function I'm adding for the RSS side, since there appears to be no concept of author URL
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aaronpk pull request filed: https://github.com/miniflux/picoFeed/pull/395
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Loqi [aaronpk] #395 add support for finding item author URL
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aaronpk woo my tests passed
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GWG aaronpk: Are you trying Miniflux? I was thinking of doing an install since it was recommended and see if it could replace tt-rss
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aaronpk no, i'm just using picofeed
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GWG aaronpk: What for?
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aaronpk for parsing feeds in Xray
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aaronpk which is being used by Monocle
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aaronpk I have no desire to use the old style feed reader interfaces
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aaronpk hm, feature request for snarfed's instagram-atom
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GWG aaronpk: I'm not ready to move to new style readers yet.
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aaronpk I really want the images as atom attachments rather than embedded in the html content
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GWG aaronpk: How do I see what the new Monocle looks like?
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aaronpk it doesn't look like anything yet since it's just a microsub server! but this is shaping up to be the first UI for it https://github.com/cleverdevil/together
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Loqi [cleverdevil] together: The together project: an IndieWeb experience
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GWG I look forward to seeing a demo someday
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aaronpk files a feature request for snarfed https://github.com/snarfed/instagram-atom/issues/3
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Loqi [aaronpk] #3 feature request: move images to atom enclosures
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aaronpk maybe I should have just asked for an instagram-mf2 service
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GWG aaronpk: The holidays do approach.
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GWG Maybe I should try the 8 Days of Indieweb Chanukah
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aaronpk :)
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GWG I can't do 100 days, but start small.
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snarfed aaronpk: https://github.com/snarfed/instagram-atom/issues/3 vs https://github.com/snarfed/granary/issues/113 ?
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Loqi [aaronpk] #3 feature request: move images to atom enclosures
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snarfed also https://granary.io/?site=instagram is an ig mf2 service, right?
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tantek aaronpk why Leo Tolstoy?
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loqi.me edited /net_neutrality (+69) "tantek added "https://boingboing.net/2017/10/28/warning-taken-as-suggestion.html" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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loqi.me created /raspberry_pie (+25) "prompted by Allison and dfn added by tantek" (view diff)
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upon2020.com edited /SSH (+310) "Added some more detail" (view diff)
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tantek what is root
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "root" yet. Would you like to create it?
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tantek what is VPN
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "VPN" yet. Would you like to create it?
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aaronpk tantek: no idea, that's what was already in the test. (I had to translate the russian to find out)
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aaronpk lololol snarfed
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aaronpk does granary.io translate instagram's timeline like instagram-atom? it looks like it only translates a user feed
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snarfed aaronpk: yeah granary can get timeline from IG, just replace @self with @all in the URL. https://granary.readthedocs.io/en/latest/index.html#using
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snarfed it's not in the granary UI for IG, but should be, i'll add it
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snarfed (in general the UI is broad but not deep or comprehensive)
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aaronpk Oh cool I'll try that then
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aaronpk I just saw the form field and fixed elements of the url and assumed those couldn't be changed
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /JAMstack (+1) "linkify ('… is <url>' pattern)" (view diff)
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snarfed aaronpk: sorry, i misspoke, granary REST doesn't support instagram scraping quite yet. it needs your session cookie, which i don't have URL design for yet
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snarfed btw OYG is pretty close to an IG mf2 service too, right?
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aaronpk ah darn
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aaronpk yes I suppose so, but OYG doesn't deal with any authentication on instagram anymore since it only works with public accounts and just parses the public web pages
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snarfed aaronpk: should be pretty easy to add a cookie query param to granary. remind me of your use case?
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aaronpk oh I just wanted to add it to my reader
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snarfed ah and atom in monocle sounded like a pain
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snarfed got it
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aaronpk which speaks microformats natively, so it does support the photo property
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aaronpk yeah the atom feed ends up looking like blog posts rather than photo posts
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snarfed heh, i could add atom input to the UI, then you could plug ig-atom into granary ?
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aaronpk lol
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aaronpk that wouldn't solve the photo issue tho :P
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snarfed it would if the atom conversion parses mf2 out of the content
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snarfed right?
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aaronpk oh does the html have u-photo? I didn't catch that
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snarfed i think so yes
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snarfed hmm no sorry
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snarfed comedy of errors
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[tantek] Considering creating a separate twitter account for POSSEing reposts/retweets the same way adactio has a separate twitter account for link bloggings.
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[tantek] Has anyone considered this?
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[tantek] All the talk of how retweets / reposts / regrams add noise by default made me think of it
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[tantek] That way my reposts on those silos are opt-in (have to follow separate account) rather than opt-out (change a setting if it's event there)
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[miklb] indeed I have. While moving my blogging/social interactions around I wondered about having an account just for the blog portion.
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aaronpk interesting
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aaronpk I tend to not repost stuff very often at all, probably because I'm worried about contributing to the noise. I wonder if I would RT more things if it went to a separate twitter account.
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aaronpk emoojiiiiiii ?
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sknebel in your database, breaking your storage format?
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aaronpk nah
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aaronpk trying to update my detect emoji function
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sknebel ah
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aaronpk for some reason it's failing in php versions less than 5.6
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aaronpk got it
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aaronpk *whew* hope I don't have to touch that again for a while
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aaronpk look at all those green checkmarks :D https://travis-ci.org/aaronpk/emoji-detector-php/builds/309716336
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Zegnat “php versions less than 5.6” - ah, you mean stuff you do not actually need to care for? ;)
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aaronpk some people still care ;-)
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Zegnat 2 days until PHP 7.0 is no longer actively supported.
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Loqi I added a countdown scheduled for 2017-12-02 10:29pm CET (#6221)
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Zegnat Woops, didn’t actually want to start that
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Zegnat !cancel 6221
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Loqi Okay, I cancelled it!
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aaronpk ha why not
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aaronpk snarfed: how is granary using the instagram API? I thought that was shut off for not-whitelisted-apps?
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@nicocharlery @crypto_pug I also have this idea of an alternative of webmentions/pingback protocols based on a such a registry. That could compete with Facebook eventually. (twitter.com/_/status/936379755779248130)