#dev 2017-12-21

2017-12-21 UTC
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loqi.me created /Minimal_Reader (+116) "prompted by gRegorLove and dfn added by gRegorLove" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /fever (+174) "past tense, link to site-death post" (view diff)
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gRegorLove Finding reader deaths by clicking the links on http://reederapp.com/ios/ :/
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Loqi gRegorLove: tantek left you a message 1 day, 20 hours ago: perhaps instead of the nxn See Also links from every payment vendor (e.g. Apple Pay, Venmo , Google Wallet) to every other, just have them all See Also to /payment and have that link out to them all?
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gRegorLove What is Readability?
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Loqi Readability was a bookmarking and reading related service that shut down 2016-09-30 https://indieweb.org/Readability
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gRegorLove "Over the course of developing Mint and Fever I’ve learned to avoid developing features I won’t personally use because I won’t notice when they break. It’s time I admit to myself that Mint and Fever are features I don’t use."
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aaronpk Sounds familiar
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KartikPrabhu good choice
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Zegnat I think it was a good choice from Shaun to retire Mint and Fever when he noticed he wasn’t using them himself anymore. Could have easily kept them on sale without offering support, but chose not to do that.
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Zegnat !tell aaronpk finally had a breather and went through the IndieAuth spec with your recent changes. All looks good to me, but left one question about the HTTP redir codes. Opened one new issue re URL Canonicalization though.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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@DasEichi @thopex Ich glaube deine Webmentions sind kaputt, dabei wollte ich so cool über Twitter im Blog kommentieren. 😢 (twitter.com/_/status/943817778791944192)
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Zegnat aaronpk, I understand that 307/308 were basically invented for the POST-to-GET usecase. But that doesn’t mean they don’t apply for normal GET requests. The definition does not add any limitations and only mentions the POST-to-GET in a “Note”: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7231#section-6.4.7
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Zegnat It isn’t really a problem. I was just surprised that the IndieAuth spec would give specific behaviour to specific 3xx HTTP codes without some sort of general behaviour.
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aaronpk hmm
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Loqi aaronpk: Zegnat left you a message 2 hours, 3 minutes ago: finally had a breather and went through the IndieAuth spec with your recent changes. All looks good to me, but left one question about the HTTP redir codes. Opened one new issue re URL Canonicalization though.
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Zegnat I actually do not know how specs-over-HTTP usually handle 3xx codes. It feels like a minefield.
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aaronpk I guess it wouldn't hurt to mention 307 and 308 as well
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aaronpk the prose actually says "if a permanent redirect is encountered" and has 301 in parens
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Zegnat Yes, I read those parens to mean “(i.e. 301)” not “(e.g. 301)”.
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Zegnat (If that makes sense...)
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aaronpk alright, added to the parentheticals https://indieauth.net/spec/#discovery-by-clients
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Zegnat Super happy now, haha!
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Loqi awesome
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@miklb @markjaquith I use a combination of webmentions & brid.gy but may want to look at SNAP https://wordpress.org/plugins/social-networks-auto-poster-facebook-twitter-g/ (twitter.com/_/status/943867599254892544)
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[kevinmarks] Mark is on wp core I think
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[miklb] Yes, he has contributed quite a bit. I’m not sure to what extent these days. He’s local to me and we’ve been acquaintances for years.
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sknebel dat << [https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/943668622634844160 Announcement for support in Brave Browser]
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@BrendanEich @Lucid00 @wakest @brave dat: support is coming in new year -- we gave a donation to https://codeforscience.org/ in support of spreading it to @brave. (twitter.com/_/status/943668622634844160)
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Loqi ok, I added "[https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/943668622634844160 Announcement for support in Brave Browser]" to the "See Also" section of /Dat
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loqi.me edited /Dat (+104) "sknebel added "[https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/943668622634844160 Announcement for support in Brave Browser]" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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www.funwhilelost.com edited /exercise (+120) "/* POSSE */" (view diff)
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