#dev 2017-12-28

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tantek wonders if "get homepage", parse with mf2 parser, get first h-feed object or lacking any, all h-entrys is too hard for " query for list of posts "
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tantek or is there where all the pagination stuff is needed?
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aaronpk It is too hard because you don't need an mf2 parser for the rest of Micropub
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tantek a-a
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tantek ha
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aaronpk Microformats is good for server to server communication but not for client development
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tantek interesting
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tantek hmm what's an emoji for Portland
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tantek what are cities
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "cities" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "cities is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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GWG 🚉🗾?
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tantek cities are a good place to organize and host both [[IndieWebCamps]] and [[Homebrew Website Club]] meetups; see the list of cities below which have all had one or the other both in the past few years.
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Loqi ok
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loqi.me created /cities (+226) "prompted by tantek and dfn added by tantek" (view diff)
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GWG I don't know?
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tantek GWG, it's like which Emoji is both "most Portland" and not other cities?
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tantek e.g. coffee cup is more Seattle
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tantek than Portland
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GWG I'm not good with hieroglyphics
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tantek GWG, they're decorative, used in addition to the city name
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tantek what is San Francisco
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Loqi https://indieweb.org/San_Francisco
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aaronpk Nope Portland wins coffee
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aaronpk Fight me
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www.boffosocko.com uploaded /File:vHWC_group_photo_12-27-17.png "{{GWG}}, {{aaronpk}}, Dora the IndieWeb Cat, {{gRegorLove}}, and {{chrisaldrich}} at vHWC Americas. https://indieweb.org/File:vHWC group photo 12-27-17.png"
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[roshanvid] What is indieauth
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Loqi IndieAuth is a way for doing Web sign-in, where you use your own homepage to sign in to other places https://indieweb.org/IndieAuth
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tantek what is Bridgy?
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Loqi Bridgy is an open source project and proxy that implements backfeed and POSSE as a service https://indieweb.org/bridgy
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@wpmudev What the New Webmention and Annotation W3C Standards Mean for WordPress https://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/?p=166420 #wpmudev #wordpress (twitter.com/_/status/946234260985450496)
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tantek why does that post keep showing up? is it just more people tweeting it?
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tantek is it worth replying to
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tantek ?
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@muc_webdesigner What the New Webmention and Annotation W3C Standards Mean for WordPress https://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/?p=166420 #wpmudev #wordpress (twitter.com/_/status/946234819649908736)
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@srgynskv #wpmudev: What the New Webmention and Annotation W3C Standards Mean for WordPress https://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/?p=166420 #wpmudev #wordpress https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DSG06LsX4AER8dW.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/946236309953241088)
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[miklb] If I’m going to rebuild nginx from source to add the google pagespeed module, any other nginx modules I should look at? LEMP stack for WordPress
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[kevinmarks] Shame there isn't a unicode COMBINING BIRD ABOVE for Portland
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Zegnat goes around opening issues on Micropub clients that require the IndieAuth me parameter during login.
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[kevinmarks] This is interesting, if a bit blinkered https://ruben.verborgh.org/blog/2017/12/20/paradigm-shifts-for-the-decentralized-web/
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Zegnat [kevinmarks], NoterLive doesn’t do Micropub, does it?
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[kevinmarks] No, I plan to add it, but I haven't used my site that way
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Zegnat No worries, I was just looking for some more interesting clients to point at my endpoint :)
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dgold if updating an entry using micropub's update logic, should I set some header for 'last-edited', and if so, is there a standard definition?
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aaronpk There's an h-entry property "dt-updated" you can use
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aaronpk I'd set it at the sever rather than in the Micropub request
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Zegnat That’s something I am still thinking about. I do want to give a client the option to define dt-published and dt-updated.
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aaronpk Published is by definition defined by the server
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aaronpk created can be set by the client tho
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Zegnat I would want to be able to migrate a site using Micropub, and that would include dt-publish values. But I might create a special scope that allows for it on the endpoint side.
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aaronpk Ah yea for that it makes sense. An import client is not a typical client tho
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aaronpk I have a few clients that import data from elsewhere like Fitbit where the client sets the published date
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dgold no, I'm doing it on the server; was just wondering if there were a normative option
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aaronpk Yep check h-entry for those kinds of questions
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Zegnat Do those clients use your regular micropub endpoint aaronpk? How do you exempt them from the server setting the pubdate?
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sknebel is dt-created something people use?
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sknebel and scheduled posts are a scneario for client-set dt-published.
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ben_thatmustbeme Zegnat: can you try logging in on https://inklings.io/inkstonedev
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ben_thatmustbeme i believe that branch will fix the issue, but I want you to test before i merge to master
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ben_thatmustbeme once you log in make sure you are on 1.1.10 (on settings page)
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Zegnat Currently on phone, so no. But you can try it yourself. Just login with https://sink.zegnat.net/
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ben_thatmustbeme all the better, should cache everything on your phone, haha
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Loqi ahaha
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Zegnat The real issue is that I do not have my IndieAuth password on my phone. So I literally can't.
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Zegnat But Sink allows anyone with a Micropub client and IndieAuth enabled URL to post, so if you want to test InkStone you can just point it at Sink and see if it works.
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ben_thatmustbeme cool
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ben_thatmustbeme it worked
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ben_thatmustbeme but some of the background queries ended up posting
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ben_thatmustbeme Zegnat++
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Loqi zegnat has 43 karma in this channel (163 overall)
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Zegnat "background queries"?
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ben_thatmustbeme ?q=config
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ben_thatmustbeme though i send it via post actually
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ben_thatmustbeme actually, i shouldn't be
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ben_thatmustbeme let me confirm that
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Zegnat ?q=config should be dropped (I do not currently support them) and not be posted
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Zegnat It really should only store things that are POSTed though. So you might be over-posting.
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ben_thatmustbeme its POSTING to ?q=config
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ben_thatmustbeme i thought there was a reason for that
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Zegnat I will double check with Micropub spec when the computer is booted again. But I do not think it describes POST for stuff other than entries
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ben_thatmustbeme it doesn't, i'm looking at it now
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Zegnat I am booted. Pulling up spec.
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Zegnat I may have easily overlooked stuff. The IndieAuth implementation on Sink is much better than the Micropub implementation.
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ben_thatmustbeme nah, i don't always follow micropub spec
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ben_thatmustbeme my implementations were done before it was formalized fully, so while i meet all the requirements of it, i sometimes do things in addition
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Zegnat Apparently `q` was specifically dropped as a reserved property because it should not be POSTed: https://www.w3.org/TR/micropub/#changes-from-13-april-2017-pr-to-this-version
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dgold isn't ?q=config a GET?
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Zegnat Yes, but apparently InkStone posts some things too.
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Zegnat dgold: https://sink.zegnat.net/0yMLCPlmg8WCO2cwgELxil2Jhwx
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Zegnat That was apparently not supposed to register as a Micropub post
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dgold Zegnat: ah
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dgold what are you using at the back-end? PHP?
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Zegnat is really enjoying playing with Sink
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Zegnat Yes, it is PHP
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dgold if you're casting the post-data array out to json, you might want to consider using
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dgold JSON_UNESCAPED_SLASHES in addition to JSON_PRETTY_PRINT
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ben_thatmustbeme no, i don't post the q
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ben_thatmustbeme the q= is in the URL, but it sends as a post with mp-me in the body
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ben_thatmustbeme so there are two issues
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[kevinmarks] I got nerdsniped by my son into writing an apache log filter and export to TSV tool
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ben_thatmustbeme not sure if i want to drop the mp-me or not, trying to think of reasons why I felt it necessary
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Loqi http://meme.loqi.me/m/4s8JgNT.jpg
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[kevinmarks] and I just said "well, we could geolocate the IP addresses" so I may nerdsnipe myself further
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ben_thatmustbeme not sure if loqi understands sarcasm or is just lucky sometimes
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Loqi http://meme.loqi.me/m/4s8yWrEh.jpg
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Zegnat If you figure out why you are doing a POST for the q=, do report back, ben_thatmustbeme
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Zegnat And feel free to use Sink for testing :)
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ben_thatmustbeme i think it was because I had planned to use a single endpoint for multiple people
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ben_thatmustbeme so mp-me becomes needed for queries
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ben_thatmustbeme the reason i'm sending it at all, was i needed it in the PHP side to route requests, thus getting around CSRF issues
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Zegnat I think the Authorization token is supposed to identify the user
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ben_thatmustbeme yeah, so i am dropping it from the request now
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ben_thatmustbeme which it should have done anyway
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ben_thatmustbeme ah, i think it was to make it easier to pull up the token though, as i don't just lookup by token
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ben_thatmustbeme no, that doesn't make sense either, my tokens are easy to do without it
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ben_thatmustbeme hmmm
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ben_thatmustbeme ohhhhh, heh
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ben_thatmustbeme i outsmarted myself
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dgold does PHP have an equivalent command to python's pop($var)
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ben_thatmustbeme what does pop($var) do exactly?
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dgold i.e. extract a $value from a $key in an array, then delete the $key => $value pair from the array
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Zegnat array_pop ? Always pops from the end of the array though.
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dgold yeah, that's no good
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ben_thatmustbeme http://php.net/manual/en/function.array-shift.php
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dgold i might need to write a handler function, but I'm not sure I can then use that in ternary operators
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ben_thatmustbeme hmm
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Zegnat There is array_splice too. Which will let you define part or an array. It then modifies the existing array to lose those items, and it returns the removed items.
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Zegnat But I need a better example of exactly what Python pop() is (or what you want to do) to give a better answer
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dgold https://docs.python.org/2/library/stdtypes.html#mutable-sequence-types
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dgold s.pop([i]) | same as x = s[i]; del s[i]; return x
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ben_thatmustbeme array_splice($s, i, 1)
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ben_thatmustbeme thats what you want
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ben_thatmustbeme s/i/$i/
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ben_thatmustbeme http://php.net/manual/en/function.array-splice.php
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Zegnat yeah, definitely sounds like you need splice
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ben_thatmustbeme one does not simply pop from the middle in php
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Loqi http://meme.loqi.me/m/4s8cosvD.jpg
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ben_thatmustbeme pats loqi on the head
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ben_thatmustbeme Zegnat: fixed
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ben_thatmustbeme and testing sending sink a photo
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ben_thatmustbeme data url encoded
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ben_thatmustbeme just to make something big
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ben_thatmustbeme https://sink.zegnat.net/0yMQxwejREMvQxeJeXXpAQXEDwX
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Zegnat Shouldn’t that be one object with multiple properties, instead of an array of objects?
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Zegnat It is so interesting to see raw Micropub requests displayed, haha
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Loqi hahaha
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ben_thatmustbeme huh, it passed micropub test suite like that
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ben_thatmustbeme i believe
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ben_thatmustbeme just throwing every fields at it now
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ben_thatmustbeme https://sink.zegnat.net/0yMRUpWc4fNrwuxIonD15uc3Ql8
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Zegnat Interesting. Maybe I am parsing the post body wrong or something…
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dgold well, I wrote this: https://gist.github.com/dg01d/2fafc1c8877c062696d38e513a355218
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dgold it works, and replicates s.pop['i'] function
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ben_thatmustbeme oh, so leaving the indexes in tact
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dgold yes
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ben_thatmustbeme and not by number
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ben_thatmustbeme but as a hash basically
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dgold no, not by number, by key
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ben_thatmustbeme okay, yeah, that would do it
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dgold it really should be a builtin though
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ben_thatmustbeme not really
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ben_thatmustbeme i mean, it could be
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ben_thatmustbeme but i don't see that as being like necessary
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Zegnat I am not even sure when I would use this.
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ben_thatmustbeme php also gets weird in that arrays and hashes are the same thing, which can be really messy at times
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dgold lol. and I just realised I can't use it anyway
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dgold :(
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Zegnat Yeah, there are some odd things with PHP arrays
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dgold as micropub places all values inside arrays, and hugo/jekyll wants them not in arrays
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Zegnat How would they want them?
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Zegnat SPL will give you heaps and fixed arrays and stuff in PHP, if you really need those. Otherwise I also appreciate https://github.com/equip/structure for Set and Dictionary objects in PHP.
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Loqi [equip] structure: Simple, immutable data structures
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dgold so I need to 'save' the value of (e.g.) $...content['0'] , and unset $...content
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Zegnat Content isn’t an array in Micropub https://sink.zegnat.net/0yMRUpWc4fNrwuxIonD15uc3Ql8
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dgold aha! I've found another bug, zegnat
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dgold https://sink.zegnat.net/0yMT2tOlH5Q2JmNWSVR3K9ByvbI
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dgold that was an attempt to post a html-coded article from quill
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Zegnat Huh
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dgold Content _can_ be an array
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dgold Content->html & content->text
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Zegnat Oh yeah
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Zegnat It can be lots of things
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ben_thatmustbeme Properties that accept multiple values MUST also accept a single value, with or without the square brackets
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ben_thatmustbeme 3.3 Create section
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Zegnat To be fair, I think any property can have multiple values in mf2
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Zegnat I’ll look into what Quill is posting and why it isn’t working. Thanks for discovering that bug dgold!
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dgold okay, i think I've now reached what the cool kids call 'an inflection point'
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dgold I can't do anything more with my script without starting to pull in external scripts by composer or similar
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dgold this is troubling
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Zegnat Oh?
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dgold i've never used them before, Zegnat
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dgold composer &c
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Zegnat My oh was more about why you would need external dependencies. Then again, I don’t know what you are building.
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dgold Zegnat: xray, to pull in data on reply-to, like-of & bookmark-of
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Zegnat Ah. Yes. XRay is really nice.
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ben_thatmustbeme stress tests sink
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ben_thatmustbeme https://sink.zegnat.net/0yMVTA5hCVD9KKDyNZIiR601YvB
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Zegnat Honestly it just accepts all posts, ben_thatmustbeme :P So unless you start hitting the server max-post body size, all will register. Haha
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Loqi Zegnat: lol
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Zegnat You also do not want to write your own microformats parser, probably, dgold. So definitely a good idea to look into composer at that point
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ben_thatmustbeme yeah, but its fun
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dgold oh, no, i most explicitly do NOT want to write my own parser
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Zegnat I like how Sink ended up. Needs some more iterations of Micropub spec stuff, but I think I am close to running my blog off of it.
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dgold I like your Sink
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ben_thatmustbeme yeah, i've done it
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ben_thatmustbeme write the parser that is
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ben_thatmustbeme well, rewrote the parser for ruby
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ben_thatmustbeme its..... interesting
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dgold it would be interesting to see Sink reverse-sorting the posts
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dgold ie Newest Post First
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dgold then you're most of the way to a (simple) blog engine
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Zegnat I am thinking of doing that, dgold. And make it the Latest X Posts
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dgold ben_thatmustbeme: I both honor your effort and fear for your sanity :)
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Zegnat The random IDs you are seeing are alphabetically sortable for time, so it is really easy.
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ben_thatmustbeme just sent as json encoded rather than form encoded btw
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ben_thatmustbeme https://sink.zegnat.net/0yMW6GY0hxmcujVJ7uWpUZpT85F
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Zegnat Hm. So JSON encoded bodies are failing?
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Zegnat Oh. I think I know why!
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ben_thatmustbeme seems so
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Zegnat approx 10 minutes until fix ... :P
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dgold i wrote a thing a little while back that both rewrites my old YAML-frontmatter blogposts as JSON-frontmatter, plus it sets the mtime of the files to the date: field of the post
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ben_thatmustbeme makes sense why that happened with quill, html content would have forced json encoding i believe
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ben_thatmustbeme dgold have you looked at yamlfeed btw
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ben_thatmustbeme speaking of sanity
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ben_thatmustbeme what is yamlfeed
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Loqi YAMLFeed is an attempt to ensure there is always a format war; since JSONFeed claims to be more readable, writable and easier to parse, than RSS, we present YAMLFeed: even more easier to read and write https://indieweb.org/YAMLFeed
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ben_thatmustbeme i need to write up the actual spec for that
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Zegnat Don’t waste your time Ben :P
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dgold I've then been able to sort my posts in php by mtime - this is a rudimentary first step towards my own engine without losing past data
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dgold course, I've not actually run the script on my production data yet, just a backup
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Zegnat Sink’s main goal was implementing a multi-user flow, as discussed here: https://indieweb.org/Micropub-brainstorming#Users_using_their_own_identities_to_log-in_to_a_community_blog
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Zegnat So I am not surprised I missed some actual Micropub content feature stuff.
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ben_thatmustbeme i still think EDIFeed would be hillarious
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dgold ben_thatmustbeme: that's insane
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ben_thatmustbeme Zegnat, i really like the way that works, its a great idea, the problem of how to have login to remote sites to post has been something i had been thinking about all wrong, doing it this way makes sense
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ben_thatmustbeme dgold: which one? EDIFeed or yamlfeed?
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ben_thatmustbeme or both?
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ben_thatmustbeme probably both
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dgold yaml
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dgold :)
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dgold why?
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Zegnat The only thing this does that was a mental change for me is that the user does not supply their own token endpoint. Or at least, it doesn’t make sense for them to do so.
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Zegnat So for me it feels like token endpoint goes hand-in-hand with micropub endpoint now, instead of going together with authorization endpoint.
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dgold :) _KarlMarxBot now has 9 followers! Internet glory shall be mine!
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Zegnat Alright, you can use Quill to your hearts content again: https://sink.zegnat.net/0yMXog5ZrqzaqCfV9lh2hye9O5B
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dgold your slashes are all still escaped
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dgold im(l)e, this made life hell when I came to using micropub's update thing
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Zegnat IIRC this is OK for all JSON parsers, dgold
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ben_thatmustbeme still didn't work from inkstone :/
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ben_thatmustbeme oh, it did
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ben_thatmustbeme clicked the wrong one
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Zegnat dgold, slashes can be escaped according to json.org: https://json.org/string.gif
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ben_thatmustbeme not sure what happened here, tried to post a photo when in JSON encoding mode https://sink.zegnat.net/0yMYNxO4WA4S6KzALPHIiQdyIPa
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Zegnat Probably not using a data uri, and I do not have a media endpoint so it can’t upload the photo?
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ben_thatmustbeme it should be using data uri
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ben_thatmustbeme might be an issue on my end, seems odd though
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ben_thatmustbeme i need to get back to work though
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Zegnat I see no reason why it would drop the contents of 1 property on my end, so probably on your end? Hard to be sure.
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Zegnat I should maybe also log the raw POST requests somewhere.
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ben_thatmustbeme Zegnat, i know you created sink as a multi-user posting tool, but this is a great debugging tool as it is now
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Zegnat I am not really advertising it as a debugging tool since it doesn’t have a strict micropub spec implementation at this point. Just bare minimal happy flow.
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Zegnat But I will probably keep it available, so feel free to use it. I might start removing some of the posts after some time to keep data usage low.
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ben_thatmustbeme yeah, certainly
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ben_thatmustbeme even just having them up for an hour is really useful
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ben_thatmustbeme this isn't open source is it?
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Zegnat No
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Zegnat It might become open source next month or so, but right now there is some stuff in there I would rather not people copy 😅
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dgold if you do log the request, remember to take out the access_token
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dgold is mp-type a valid mpub request?
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Zegnat mp-type is a valid property in a Micropub POST, yes.
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Zegnat Note that anything mp-* is meant for the server to react to, and not to be stored within the object you are creating.
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Zegnat So if you want to define a type for your h-entry, mp-* is not the way to go
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dgold it would make my life much simpler
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dgold but it doesn't look like it has wide acceptance, looking at sink
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Zegnat mp-type might be a thing that ben_thatmustbeme’s endpoint understands. That’s what mp-* is for.
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Zegnat But I doubt all clients are going to send it.
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Zegnat However, you can simply follow Post Type Discovery to find the type of whatever was submitted. Because the POST body should already be parsed microformats.
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Zegnat What is Post Type Discovery?
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Loqi Post Type Discovery specifies an algorithm for determining the type of a post by what properties it has and potentially what value(s) they have, which helps avoid the need for explicit post types that are being abandoned by modern post creation UIs https://indieweb.org/post-type-discovery
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Zegnat Pretty straight forward checking the properties of the request to establish type :)
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Zegnat (Also not sure how valid “looking at sink” is as an argument ;))
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ben_thatmustbeme correct, mp-type is a thing i use
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Zegnat Time for me to get dinner. Don’t break Sink in my absence please.
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ben_thatmustbeme you can remove it in inkstone configs
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ben_thatmustbeme i allow for too much config in inkstone
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ben_thatmustbeme its kind of nutty
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dgold but we want to break sink
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[eddie] https://files.slack.com/files-pri/T03QR2B2T-F8M4K1N23/screen_shot_2017-12-28_at_1.17.05_pm.png?pub_secret=d342a72361&name=Screen Shot 2017-12-28 at 1.17.05 PM.png
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[eddie] Yay!! I finished weather information for my posts! Unfortunately, I initially thought my code must be wrong because I had no idea it was only 14 degrees F!! Brrr! Looks like I’m staying inside today!
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Loqi woot
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sknebel 🤣
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tantek what is the 2017-12-indieweb-challenge
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Loqi The IndieWeb Challenge is to collectively ship something IndieWeb-related every day of December! https://indieweb.org/2017-12-indieweb-challenge
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tantek challenges << 2017-12-indieweb-challenge
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Loqi ok, I added "[[2017-12-indieweb-challenge]]" to the "See Also" section of /challenges
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[eddie] Now that Indigenous supports multiple micropub accounts, I’m trying to figure out how to set a “default”. I have two thoughts. The first is to use the last selected account within the app itself (https://slack-files.com/T03QR2B2T-F8K8BAUF3-a7d2405a50), the other option is to actually have a “Set as Default” button above the “Log Out” button, and then add an icon to the accounts listing to show that is the default account.
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[eddie] https://files.slack.com/files-pri/T03QR2B2T-F8L3L6LLS/screen_shot_2017-12-28_at_2.46.15_pm.png?pub_secret=6dad3aa44a&name=Screen Shot 2017-12-28 at 2.46.15 PM.png
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aaronpk i think i would want consistent behavior so that I am not surprised when I click an action
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[eddie] Gotcha, so manually setting a “default”
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[eddie] that way it doesn’t randomly change on you if you were last on a different account inside of the main app
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aaronpk yeah
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aaronpk and always showing what account it will be posted from is a good idea too
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tantek sgreger: webmention.io receives webmentions on my behalf
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tantek so I have to query it to get them to display on my site
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[eddie] awesome, sounds good 🙂 I felt like the “last used” account was clever but was definitely worried the cleverness would end up providing unwelcome surprises when attempting to use the share sheet 🙂
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[eddie] So looks like you agree with that concern
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tantek what is a cv
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Loqi A resumé or curriculum vitae (CV) is a document that represents a person's background and skills, commonly used to secure employment https://indieweb.org/cv
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tantek what is coffee
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Loqi coffee is frequently available at IndieWebCamps, and also one of the more common drink posts https://indieweb.org/coffee
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tantek what is eat
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "eat" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "eat is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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tantek eat is /food
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Loqi ok
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Zegnat returns to his computer after dinner and carefully checks Sink hoping it didn’t break.
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@tessaelaine2017 Back to my Roots (Montana Roots Book 1) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076LZZV9S/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_kVE6zbB94JXN2 #backtomyroots #live #secondchance #romance #debutnovel #book #newromanc #mustread #ebook #amazon #kindle #kindleunlimited #goodreads #indieauth #retweet #teaserthursday #teaser #booklovers #books #montanaroots https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DSKYnYkVoAAfcU9.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/946486683909967872)
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dgold aaronpk: how do go about getting the links/hashtags in tweets to render as links on your site?
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aaronpk a little autolinker function
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aaronpk https://indieweb.org/autolink
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aaronpk my formatter takes any plaintext post and does a few autolinking things to it, like linking hashtags, turning URLs into links, and linking @-names from my nicknames cache
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dgold aaronpk: have you any of that formatted/autolinker on github or similar?
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dgold ive been looking over a few linkers, but fr
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dgold few seem to do hashtags
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aaronpk hm i don't think mine is a separate module, it's just built into my site
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aaronpk tantek's is tho https://github.com/tantek/cassis
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Loqi [tantek] cassis: CASSIS is universal javascript/PHP that works on the client and the server for scalable application logic.
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tantek dgold look for the auto_link function there
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tantek it's what I use on my site
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tantek works in PHP or JS
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dgold Thanks tantek
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tantek one thing it doesn't do that you mentioned - it doesn't autolink hashtags because I haven't come up with a good automatic way to do so, and didn't want to hardlink those to Twitter hashtag results
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tantek (which can be toxic at times :/ )
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sgreger zegnat: thanks for the heads-up re xray/youtube
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sgreger haven't had any time to work on my reader lately, but will definitly look into it
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dgold That’s something I’d not considered.
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[kevinmarks] we have a python port of the cassis autolinker too https://github.com/kylewm/cassis-autolink-py
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Loqi [kylewm] cassis-autolink-py: Python port of a subset of Tantek Çelik's CASSIS
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gRegorLove The talk of posting interfaces and micropub in -meta got me thinking how difficult it is for me to move away from using a posting interface on my site, heh. Micropub is rad and I'd like to use it more, but old habits die hard.
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gRegorLove aaronpk's recent auto-liking tweets is pretty cool though, maybe that will nudge me.
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aaronpk I don't think there's anything wrong with using built-in posting interfaces
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aaronpk supporting micropub in addition to that means you get a lot more flexibility in clients to use
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gRegorLove Oh, sure, doesn't feel "wrong" to me. The different approaches are interesting, and it seems like some people iterate faster with micropub.