#dev 2018-01-21

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j12t Is there a description somewhere what exactly one has to do to indiewebify a typical Wordpress theme?
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[miklb] I guess it depends on what defines “indiewebify” as
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j12t miklb: "best practices". I guess I could take one of the recommended themes and "diff" it with the original, but I figure that might be messy.
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[eddie] schmarty: https://eddiehinkle.com/media/indigenous-beta2-preview.mov
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[eddie] (Near the end of the video)
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aaronpk Omg whaaaatttt
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aaronpk thisnis amazing
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schmarty Awesome!!!
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[eddie] j12t: I think the main thing in that regard would probably be adding microformats2 markup to the theme. It allows your site to be parsed by others
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schmarty Eddie++
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[eddie] Still early stages but it allows me to at least stay up to speed on things. And hoping for more improvements to it as I go forward.
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[eddie] I’ve been using it for a couple weeks and it works decently. Although the recently added image support has some layout bugs I’m hoping to get fixed shortly
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Guest61315 j12t re: indiewebify a wp theme (or anything), see /IndieMark and pick what level of IndieWebification you want :)
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tantek_ ^^^ that was me :)
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j12t I was hoping somebody had written a post "how I indiewebified the XYZ theme" or such ... :-)
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j12t Actually the diff doesn't seem so bad: looking at https://github.com/dshanske/twentysixteen-indieweb vs the original, and the number of changes seems manageable
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Loqi [dshanske] twentysixteen-indieweb: Indieweb Fork of WordPress Twenty Sixteen Theme
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tantek_ j12t that's totally worth an analysis and write-up
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tantek_ "how to indiewebify a WP theme" would be a great page or section to add
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tantek_ "how to indiewebify a WP theme" would be a great page or section to add
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tantek_ what is a wp theme
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "wp theme" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "wp theme is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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j12t There is https://indieweb.org/WordPress/Themes
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GWG I wrote a post on some of it
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j12t GWG: Have a pointer?
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GWG I have to go look
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GWG Just woke up, needed a lie down post IWC
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j12t No hurry!! Get your rest!!!
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GWG j12t https://david.shanske.com/2016/06/22/converting-wordpress-themes-microformats-2-part-1/
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Loqi [David Shanske] Converting WordPress Themes for Microformats 2 – Part 1
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j12t Excellent, thank you!
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j12t I added a link from https://indieweb.org/WordPress/Themes#Microformats
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j12t GWG: Is there a part 2? Because I can't find it.
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GWG I never wrote it
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j12t Ah :-)
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GWG And I've gotten a token endpoint working
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[tantek] GWG++
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Loqi gwg has 20 karma in this channel (304 overall)
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GWG Trying to get revokation working
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GWG Okay. That's working. Going to bed
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jjuran good idea ;-)
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chrisaldrich j12t Another bit that GWG wrote which may help you with WordPress and microformats: http://stream.boffosocko.com/2018/for-those-interested-in-more-and-who-know-a-bit
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Loqi [Chris Aldrich] For those interested in more and who know a bit of code, David's also got a "master class" on adding microformats to modern themes in his commit trail for updating/upgrading the TwentySixteen theme to be more IndieWeb friendly: https://github.com/dsh...
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@bitworking Bridgy, webmentions, and publishing.: https://bitworking.org/news/2018/01/bridgy-webmentions-and-publishing (twitter.com/_/status/954965542535745536)
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www.boffosocko.com edited /Ghost (+97) "Converting a Jekyl blog to Ghost" (view diff)
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sknebel Zegnat: silo-equivalent of your u-video embed scenario: https://twitter.com/adlerweb/status/955032311459966976 (links to personal blog with embedded youtube vid, and the youtube embed is also in the twitter card)
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@adlerweb Blog Post: BitBastelei #270 - Lii-500 Batterieladegerät (18650, Ni-HM, etc) http://bit.ly/2BhrA2s (twitter.com/_/status/955032311459966976)
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Zegnat Awesome find sknebel!
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sknebel (so really, posse scenario, since the site itself isn't a silo)
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Zegnat Well, the question is of course, how would the site (that isn’t a silo, as you say) mark up the post to make it a video post ;)
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Zegnat Which is where my scenario comes in
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Zegnat documents the use-case and the twitter card format
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sknebel interestingly, the "podcast" link in the post is a link to a video file - so in this case they could mark it up as video
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vanderven.se martijn edited /User:Vanderven.se_martijn/feed-entries-with-post-type-video (+1163) "Add example of POSSE’d with embedded YouTube video from original post, h/t sknebel" (view diff)
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vanderven.se martijn edited /Twitter_Cards (+1473) "/* Card Types */ Example “player” type card for POSSE usage, h/t sknebel" (view diff)
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vanderven.se martijn edited /Twitter_Cards (+226) "This is the new canonical documentation page, I think." (view diff)
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vanderven.se martijn created /Twitter_Card (+27) "Redirected page to [[Twitter Cards]]" (view diff)
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GWG aaronpk: I have some questions for you.
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aaronpk I have some answers for you
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GWG Great
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jjuran Are there microformats for posting an annotated disassembly of a program?
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GWG snarfed: aaronpk is helping me check the code on my token endpoint.
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snarfed GWG: this is a token endpoint you want to put in the micropub plugin?
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GWG snarfed: Indieauth Plugin
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snarfed ah
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GWG I tested it with the Micropub plugin last night. It worked
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GWG I just want it bulletproof as it is controlling access to people's site
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[miklb] that’s probably a good thing 🙂
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sknebel jjuran: not that I know of (I actually can't think of any structured format for that? is there one I'm missing, and if yes what is it used for?)
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jjuran sknebel: I was responding to schmarty’s hypothetical IWC Sunday project example of an assembly language program that generates microformats. :-)
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gRegorLove tantek_: hehe, well to be fair it was upgrading utf8 to utf8mb4, which is fully backward compatible. didn't have to deal with double-encoded or mis-encoded data. 4-byte emojis were being dropped before, that's all :)
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gRegorLove I also did the minimal amount to get it working; didn't upgrade the entire db just the one table
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gRegorLove incremental++
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tantek_ gRegorLove sounds like very sound methodology!
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tantek_ was it MySQL?
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tantek_ schmarty, jjuran re: service that sends Webmentions for your / a page / post, consider how will you support sending update/delete webmentions
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tantek.com edited /passive_post (+93) "refine dfn, without user action to initiate the experience" (view diff)
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tantek_ what is passive
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Loqi A passive post is a post that is created without the person taking an explicit action to create the post, such as listening to music that happens to be playing or watching a show that starts playing by itself, like YouTube's autoplay https://indieweb.org/passive
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tantek.com edited /Ghost (+283) "move criticisms from see also to actual Criticism section, note mf2 concrete use-case is rich webmentions" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /generations (+479) "/* Generations Examples */ gen 3/4 section, note Emma's success" (view diff)
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gRegorLove tantek: Yeah, MySQL
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jjuran Running https://2018.indieweb.org/baltimore through my HTML parser is find lots of edge cases
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Loqi IndieWebCamp Baltimore
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jjuran Does ‘&’ have to be escaped within an HTML attribute?
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tantek !tell gRegorLove interesting favorites display on your post https://gregorlove.com/2018/01/hello-from-indiewebcamp-baltimore/ - do you have a name for that design pattern? (since it's not a /facepile) namepile sounds wrong because it's a comma separated list
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi [gRegor Morrill] Hello from IndieWebCamp Baltimore!
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[eddie] Well, I just deployed my new token endpoint too. :crossed_fingers: Here’s to hoping I didn’t break micropub on my website
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[eddie] sighs
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[eddie] Slack is ridiculous. That emoji has existed forever.
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j12t Thanks chrisaldrich!
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