#dev 2018-01-26

2018-01-26 UTC
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[eddie] Micro.blog/feeds/eddiehinkle.json
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[eddie] Did you do a timeline feed or a profile feed?
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aaronpk yeah i'm following https://micro.blog/feeds/aaronpk.json
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[eddie] Hmm interesting.
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[keithjgrant] anybody on that's familiar with the mp-syndicate-to field when posting to a MP endpoint?
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[miklb] a tad beyond having read the docs
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[keithjgrant] do you know if the MP client is supposed to post an array of the syndicate UID strings, or an array of the full syndicate objects?
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[miklb] I do not. sorry
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[keithjgrant] https://www.w3.org/TR/micropub/#new-reply This seems to indicate just the uid
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[keithjgrant] well, I think that the problem is my MP server, not Omnibear. I'll keep this in a branch until someone can test a diff endpoint
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[miklb] I know to create a syndicate-to all you need is uid & name
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[miklb] https://www.w3.org/TR/micropub/#syndication-targets
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[eddie] keithjgrant I have an array of syndication objects inside of my server. So after passing that array through the micropub config stage, when I recieve the UID’s back in the micropub request, I match the UID up to my full syndication objects
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[keithjgrant] So the request (to post an entry) only needs to contain an array of the UIDs?
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[eddie] exactly.
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[eddie] The name is just for making the UI prettier
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[keithjgrant] Is it as 'mp-syndicate-to'?
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[miklb] human readable of the uid right?
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[miklb] I believe mp- has been deprecated
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[eddie] mp-syndicate-to is correct
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[keithjgrant] Cool.
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[eddie] the micropub config is “syndicate-to”, but the micropub value is mp-syndicate-to.
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[keithjgrant] I wonder if voxpelli's app uses syndicate-to. It omits the mp- in mp-slug
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[eddie] syndicate-to is a previously named version, so if it omits that in mp-slug it probably omits it no syndicate-to as well
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[eddie] Quill allows for a legacy option for servers that need that value
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[keithjgrant] Yeah, I made mp-slug configurable. Guess I'll do the same for this
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[eddie] Yeah, I would think keeping mp-slug and mp-syndicate-to in balance is good
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[miklb] thanks for the explanations. I now know a little more than a tad beyond the docs
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[miklb] eddie++
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[keithjgrant] Indeed. eddie++
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[keithjgrant] eddie++
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[eddie] Happy to help 😁
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jeremycherfas Trying to send a webmention to Known; json_encode() escapes the / in the URL; Known returns an error "That doesn't look like a valid URL.","message_type":"alert-danger"
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jeremycherfas Is there another way to create the json payload?
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Zegnat add JSON_UNESCAPED_SLASHES as second argument to your json_encode
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Zegnat Special constant to stop PHP from escaping slashes: https://secure.php.net/manual/en/json.constants.php#constant.json-unescaped-slashes
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Zegnat Although it does sound like a Known bug if they do not decode them :/ Not sure what would be going on there
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cweiske but webmentions are not json
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cweiske jeremycherfas,
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cweiske https://www.w3.org/TR/webmention/#h-sender-notifies-receiver
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cweiske The sender must post x-www-form-urlencoded [HTML5] source and target parameters to the Webmention endpoint,
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jeremycherfas Sorry cweiske they are not webmentions. My mistake. I am just trying to post to Known via crul.
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cweiske what is that url that known complains about?
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cweiske known should not care at all about the escaping in the json, since it decodes it anyway
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jeremycherfas https://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2017/09/03/Murder-chez-Hitler
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cweiske and our json?
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jeremycherfas "{"link":"https://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2017/09/03/Murder-chez-Hitler","description":"PESOS+from+%3Ca+href%3D%27https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reading.am%2Fp%2F4Njk%2Fhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.tbray.org%2Fongoing%2FWhen%2F201x%2F2017%2F09%2F03%2FMurder-chez-Hitler%27%3Ereading.am%3C%2Fa%3E"}"
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cweiske is that from your shell?
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jeremycherfas $known['body'] = json_encode($mybody, JSON_UNESCAPED_SLASHES); gives the same error
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jeremycherfas From the php script I am working on, yes.
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cweiske "{"... looks strange
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jeremycherfas Maybe because I produce it with var_dump($known['body']); ?
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cweiske ok
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cweiske the json is fine
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cweiske can you pastebin your script?
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jeremycherfas Gist OK?
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cweiske sure
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Zegnat Ha, looks like you broke the log display, jeremycherfas: https://chat.indieweb.org/dev/2018-01-26/1516959199028900 :D
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Loqi [jeremycherfas] "{"link":""" target="_blank">https://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2017/09/03/Murder-chez-Hitler","description":"PESOS+from+%3Ca+href%3D%27https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reading.am%2Fp%2F4Njk%2Fhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.tbray.org%2Fongoing%2FWhen%2F201x%2F2017%2F09%2F0...
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cweiske that's what you get when auto-linking code runs over code
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jeremycherfas Gist is at https://gist.github.com/jeremycherfas/8a8441da39fb10a12acdf3f471f9c654
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cweiske so you don't want to use micropub?
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jeremycherfas Intention is to test with hard-coded variables, before doing with the variable variables, IYSWIM
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jeremycherfas I thought I WAS using micropub, by sending to a specific Known endpoint.
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jeremycherfas And oops, my credentials are in there.
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Zegnat Better regenerate your API key now
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Zegnat If this is for the live site and not a local one, that is
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jeremycherfas Erk!
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jeremycherfas It is for the live site.
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cweiske this is not micropub.
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Zegnat You seem to be using some Known-specific endpoint to POST to, not Known’s Micropub endpoint. So the API is different. In Micropub you would expect to see a `like-of` property in the body, where you are sending a `link` property.
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Zegnat Nothing wrong with using the API offered by the CMS you are using, of course :)
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cweiske you could use shpub to send a like, and use shpub's --debug feature to get the complete curl shell command
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jeremycherfas Let me understand this better.
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cweiske $ ./bin/shpub.php --debug like cweiske.de
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cweiske curl -X POST -H 'User-Agent: shpub' -H 'Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded' -H 'Authorization: Bearer deadbeef' -d 'h=entry' -d 'like-of=http://cweiske.de' 'https://commentpara.de/micropub.php'
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jeremycherfas Known says that every endpoint accepts POSTs, so I was sending to the Known Post url.
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jeremycherfas To create a post that is a PESOS of something I marked at reading.am
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Zegnat Do you have a link to that Known documentation, jeremycherfas?
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jeremycherfas You're suggesting that instead I send the POST to shpub?
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jeremycherfas Hang on zegnat, I'll find it
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cweiske shpub is a command line micropub client
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jeremycherfas https://www.marcus-povey.co.uk/2015/05/28/using-the-known-api/
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Loqi [Marcus Povey] Using the Known API
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Zegnat jeremycherfas, cweiske is suggesting you use Micropub instead, since Known should support that. shpub has a handy debug option that will show you the exact cURL command it does. So if you can get posting to work with shpub, it is super easy to get the cURL command and use that wherever you want.
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cweiske thanks for the summary
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jeremycherfas OK. I'll try that route from http://cweiske.de/shpub.htm
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Zegnat That is interesting about the Known API. It does seem like you should just be able to post whatever you usually post through the admin form.
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Zegnat You are sure the fields are supposed to be called link and description?
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jeremycherfas Well, it would be, if it worked. I have tested other things, and they worked, but then I got into this specific project and it has not gone well.
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jeremycherfas Pretty much, yes. You get that by doing a GET ihntstead of a POST
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jeremycherfas Cweiske is there a preferred place to extract the phar file?
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Zegnat You don’t have to extract the phar file
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Zegnat You can execute phar files with php directly.
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Zegnat Otherwise, could you try changing “link” to “like-of” in your existing PHP script, jeremycherfas?
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Zegnat That is what the Like plugin seems to be looking for: https://github.com/idno/Known/blob/master/IdnoPlugins/Like/Like.php#L131
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cweiske ./shpub.phar like http://url/
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cweiske before: chmod +x shpub.phar
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jeremycherfas https://cweiske.de/tagebuch/php-phar-files.htm is a little dense for me. :)
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Loqi [Christian Weiske] Working with .phar files
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jeremycherfas I'll try changing as you suggest first zegnat
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jeremycherfas Interesting! https://stream.jeremycherfas.net/2018/ongoing-by-tim-bray-murder-at-adolfs-cottage-2
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Loqi [Jeremy Cherfas] ongoing by Tim Bray · Murder at Adolf’s Cottage
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jeremycherfas I wonder whether bookmark-of would be better.
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Zegnat Has someone made a read plugin for Known yet? That would be even better. Although hitting 👍 on reading.am does sound like a like to me.
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jeremycherfas To be honest, I'm as happy with a bookmark as with a like (and that is a whole 'nother can of worms that many people are working on) but now it would be good to improve the presentation of the body of the post
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jeremycherfas That string is not exactly helpful.
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Zegnat As a general rule though, jeremycherfas, if you are going to work with the Known API instead of Micropub: check the source for the post type (in the IdnoPlugins folder, probably) and look for the `saveDataFromInput` method. There you will find method calls like `getInput('inreplyto')` (for Status) and `getInput('like-of')` (for Like). That way you
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Zegnat know what properties you can send to the endpoint.
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jeremycherfas What is REALLY weird is what Known seems to be doing with the HTML in the body of the post.
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "REALLY weird is what Known seems to be doing with the HTML in the body of the post." yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "REALLY weird is what Known seems to be doing with the HTML in the body of the post. is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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jeremycherfas What I see is PESOS from https://gregorlove.com/2017/12/indieweb-wordpress-feedback/">reading.am
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Loqi [gRegor Morrill] IndieWeb WordPress Feedback
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jeremycherfas But the HTML is <p>PESOS from <a href="https://www.reading.am/p/4Uny/https://gregorlove.com/2017/12/indieweb-wordpress-feedback/">reading.am</a></p>
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jeremycherfas And that HTML out do display as I intend.
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jeremycherfas It must be something to do with the nested Hhttps, I think
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cweiske jeremycherfas, you don't need that working-with-phar-files article.
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cweiske the downloaded shpub.phar can be used like any other shell script or executable
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jeremycherfas No, I don't think I do :)
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jeremycherfas What I would really like to understand is whether in general it would be better to work with the Known API or with something like shpub.
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jeremycherfas I started with the Known API because that seemed the most obvious. But not I am wondering.
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jeremycherfas S /not/now/
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Zegnat I would say it is better to work with Micropub, as that means you could use the same script to syndicate reading.am to Known and WordPress.
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Zegnat That’s the nice thing about Micropub existing outside of a specific CMS: multiple CMS will accept it
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jeremycherfas Right, I see the value of that, even though I personally do not anticipate wanting to send my reading.am links to any of my WP sites.
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jeremycherfas That display issue might be somethying to do with FILTER_VALIDATE_URL I think.
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Zegnat That shouldn’t do anything but confirm that something is a valid URL. Not sure where that impacts display
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jeremycherfas I thought it might be truncating the URL from the second https
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jeremycherfas I'm still not sure where shpub.phar should be. In /bin?
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cweiske it really does not matter
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cweiske leave it in any directory you want
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cweiske make it executable, and then you can do ./shpub.phar
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cweiske if you move it to /usr/bin/, then you don't need the "./" in front
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jeremycherfas OK. Should I remove the -0.6.0 from the filename?
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cweiske no
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cweiske but then you need to ./shpub-0.6.0.phar
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jeremycherfas Cool. I have managed to authenticate!
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cweiske oh, a linkback from you :)
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jeremycherfas Well, that seemed a good first test!
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jeremycherfas Cweiske I tried to see what the syndication targets are of my server, and got this error "response data are not of type application/json"
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cweiske use --debug
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cweiske and run the curl command manually
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jeremycherfas I see now. Thanks.
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jeremycherfas cweiske One final question, for now: Can I use the same kind of formatting you have under custom post types to create a more detailed Bookmark post, with url, tags etc?
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cweiske tags: --category=foo
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cweiske url: --x url=foo
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jeremycherfas I mean, specifically, the way you have constructed the command at http://cweiske.de/shpub.htm#id13
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cweiske no, "custom post types" are not for that
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cweiske you need to add properties to a bookmark post
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jeremycherfas OK. Thanks. I will continue to expeirment, after lunch. Thanks for your help.
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cweiske shpub bookmark --category=foo -x url=mycustomslug http://example.org "this is my example text"
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Zegnat tags++
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Zegnat url++
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Zegnat wonder why those registered as karma counters
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cweiske overly permissive regex
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dgold can I ask a non-indiewebbish type question about code?
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Loqi dgold: [eddie] left you a message 1 day, 14 hours ago: no macOS share sheets that I know of yet that support micropub. Is there a specific reason you’re asking?
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cweiske sure
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dgold my script uses some ternary operators - isset($a) ? ifTrue : ifFalse; things
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dgold thing is, some of them, as they are iterating over arrays, get to be horribly long
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dgold can I break those up over several lines, and if so, how should I indent them?
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cweiske if-then-else :)
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Zegnat “how should I indent them” - spaces, not tabs.
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Zegnat Sorry :P
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dgold snark will get you slaps, Zegnat :)
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Zegnat If they get so long that you feel you need to break them up, is there any reason not to write them as full if(){}else{} blocks?
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dgold has a friend who is quite... em... opinionated on that topic. Calls me a spacer
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dgold Zegnat: I guess I could, just that the ternary seem to be so much more understandable
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dgold just getting fed up with phpcs screaming at me about line length
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Zegnat You could turn off that specific rule.
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Zegnat That also fixes it ;)
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[miklb] jinx
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[miklb] you can always exclude that rule in your local phpcs config and revisit later
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Zegnat Blame the Slack delay, [miklb] ;)
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Zegnat dgold, I used to be a big fan of ternaries, and having few lines of code to do many (sub)decisions. But these days I actually prefer many short lines for readability.
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Zegnat So I notice that I have switched to much more explicit if blocks
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[miklb] readability++
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dgold that's a good point Zegnat
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jeremycherfas OK, I'm back with more noob questions. If I want to make use of shpub in my php program, do I use exec()?
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cweiske I thought you should use shpub only to test out micropub and get the curl command
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cweiske you can convert that curl command to php code then
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cweiske if I were you I'd not rely on shpub
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jeremycherfas Oh. I see. OK, I'll try that.
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jeremycherfas Oh. I see. OK, I'll try that.
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jeremycherfas But then, do I use the same Authorization: Bearer, or do I use the API key from KNown?
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cweiske same auth bearer
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jeremycherfas Thanks
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cweiske the micropub tokens are different from the normal known api key
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@sl007 @rhiaro @dustyweb @SocialWebWG Instead care about friends, https://indieweb.org/Events needs you and there are just a few https://github.com/w3c/activitystreams/issues ;) For me it just feels that all 3 webmention, microparts and activitypub are achivements. (twitter.com/_/status/956883702885371905)
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cweiske jeremycherfas, https://incarnate.github.io/curl-to-php/
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jeremycherfas Very cool; thanks. Right now, I'm stumped by the fact that when I create a bookmark by hand, I can add what it calls a desction, but when I do that with shpub, so far, I cannot. Still trying
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cweiske shpub [options] bookmark [options] url [text]
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cweiske after the URL, pass the description text
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jeremycherfas Does not accept it, so far
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cweiske what do you get?
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jeremycherfas Ignores it.
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cweiske when you --debug, is the text included in the request?
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jeremycherfas No
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cweiske oh
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cweiske shpub.php --debug bookmark cweiske.de "this is a text"
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cweiske -d 'h=entry' -d 'bookmark-of=http://cweiske.de' -d 'content=this is a text'
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cweiske here it is included
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cweiske -d content=...
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jeremycherfas Let me try content. I have tried body and description
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jeremycherfas Not included and not in curl
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cweiske what's your shpub command?
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jeremycherfas php ./shpub-0.6.0.phar --debug bookmark -x tags=#testtag -x title="Inserting a title with a star and a link" -x bookmark-of=https://indieweb.org/bookmark -x content="A bit meta, linking to this."
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cweiske you don't need that x bookmark-of
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cweiske that's automatically added because you say "bookmark" at first
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cweiske -x content also not
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jeremycherfas OK, let me try again
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cweiske php ./shpub-0.6.0.phar --debug bookmark https://indieweb.org/bookmark "A bit meta, linking to this."
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jeremycherfas Nope. It is in the curl but seems that Known is not receiving that element.
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Zegnat What is the final curl command? (Minus your auth.)
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "final curl command" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "final curl command is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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jeremycherfas curl -X POST -H 'User-Agent: shpub' -H 'Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded' -H 'Authorization: Bearer xxx' -d 'h=entry' -d 'bookmark-of=https://indieweb.org/bookmark' -d 'content=using a different label for description.' -d 'tags=#testtag' -d 'title=Description' 'https://stream.jeremycherfas.net/micropub/endpoint'
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Zegnat Hmm, I would have expected that to work
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jeremycherfas Me too. Very frustrating. I'll ask in the #known channel in case mapcyka is lurking there.
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Zegnat what if you do exactly the same command in shpub, but add --json?
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Loqi http://meme.loqi.me/m/4scZsMq4.jpg
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jeremycherfas I'll try anything
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Zegnat In case there is a bug in Known’s handling, if you add --json to the shpub command it will send the post as a JSON body instead of form encoded.
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jeremycherfas Server returned an error status code 400
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jeremycherfas invalid_request: Couldn't create bookmark: That doesn't look like a valid URL.
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Zegnat Hahaha
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Loqi hehe
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Zegnat And before it was working except that content was being ignored?
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jeremycherfas Yes. Json seems to create a different curl payload
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Zegnat Yes, instead of sending form encoded (-d property=value) all the properties should be send in the request body as JSON
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jeremycherfas But it actually gets the entities differently. Look:
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jeremycherfas curl -X POST -H 'User-Agent: shpub' -H 'Content-Type: application/json' -H 'Authorization: Bearer 44cb20945935ef0d19be5867a575ed1f' --data '{"type":["h-entry"],"properties":{"bookmark-of":["http:\/\/using a different label for description."],"tags":["#testtag"],"title":["Description"],"https:\/\/indieweb.org\/bookmark":[null]}}' 'https://stream.jeremycherfas.net/micropub/endpoint'
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jeremycherfas Erk, left the auth code in there
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Zegnat I hope Known has a big red button to reset auth codes, haha
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Zegnat But that JSON looks wrong. cweiske, any known bugs with --json?
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cweiske that url indeed looks wrong
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cweiske that's a shpub bug
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cweiske I never nearly don't use --json
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jeremycherfas I suppose to get a new code I do shpub connect again
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Zegnat Should be, yes, though there should be a way for you to invalidate the old token in Known. Not sure where it handles that.
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jeremycherfas Account/indiepub allows you to revoke tokens
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jeremycherfas So I have to get a new one.
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Zegnat cweiske, I don’t really use JSON bodies either, but I saw they are handled separately in the Known code so I hoped this would be a neat solution.
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Zegnat jeremycherfas, getting a new token should be easy enough. I am happy the flow for revocation is simple! That often gets forgotten, and not revoking leaked tokens is bad.
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jeremycherfas Book-mark of has become http://title
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cweiske i've opened an issue
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cweiske for shpub
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jeremycherfas Thanks. When I try to connect again, it says token already available.
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jeremycherfas Can I get a new one?
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cweiske you need to remove it from the config
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cweiske let me check
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jeremycherfas which config?
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cweiske -f, --force-update Force token update if token already available
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cweiske shpub connect --force
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jeremycherfas Cool.
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Zegnat shpub++ for quick debugging
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jeremycherfas Well, I don't think I can go much further, but I do think I have made some progress today, thanks to you both
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Zegnat should just keep a Known testing environment somewhere
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jeremycherfas The json payload works with a hand edited bookmark-of URL but then does not send the tags or the title.
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jeremycherfas I think that is where Known's own names for the entities comes into play.
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Zegnat Could be. I didn’t instantly understand how the Micropub plugin works from looking at the code.
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cweiske Zegnat, it reads the parameters, then sets the parameters that known would expect for its own API calls and then calls $entity->saveDataFromInput()
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cweiske it basically makes parameter name conversion
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Zegnat Yeah, that’s what it looked like to me, in which case content should be getting picked up.
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jeremycherfas But looking at the blog you suggested https://github.com/idno/Known/blob/master/IdnoPlugins/Like/Like.php#L125 I can't see content, only description
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jeremycherfas Ands that is in the Likes plugin. I'm still not sure how that relates to the bookmarks.
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Zegnat https://github.com/idno/Known/blob/master/IdnoPlugins/IndiePub/Pages/MicroPub/Endpoint.php#L211
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cweiske $this->setInput('body', $htmlPhoto.$content_value.$hashtags);
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Zegnat Bookmarks are handled by Likes, I saw some discussion about that earlier this week
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cweiske the micropub endpoint converts content to body
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jeremycherfas Yeah, and that discussion was about how confusing it is.
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Zegnat Hmm, that might be a problem cweiske
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Zegnat Bookmarks overwrite body: https://github.com/idno/Known/blob/master/IdnoPlugins/Like/Like.php#L144-L147
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jeremycherfas Zegnat The micropub code seems to be absolutely clear that it will accept 'content' and 'bookmark-of' and 'category' (but not 'tags')
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jeremycherfas Am I write that if you use the bookmark API then that will happen, but not if you use micropub?
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Zegnat Reading this, and what cweiske said, I almost think the Micropub code is taking your provided body, but the Like code discards it and only accepts “description”.
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jeremycherfas https://github.com/idno/Known/blob/master/IdnoPlugins/IndiePub/Pages/MicroPub/Endpoint.php#L314 seems to me to be saying that
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jeremycherfas Because https://github.com/idno/Known/blob/master/IdnoPlugins/IndiePub/Pages/MicroPub/Endpoint.php#L352 then gets the plugin
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Zegnat Exactly, and it probably gets the Like plugin there.
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Zegnat And the Like plugin then goes and overwrites “body” with the “bookmarkof” value: https://github.com/idno/Known/blob/master/IdnoPlugins/Like/Like.php#L144-L147
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Zegnat So then your body is gone.
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jeremycherfas So --- without digging deep into Known code, the answer may be to structure a Post type article with the information I want to publish with micropub.
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Zegnat The answer might just be that creating Likes and bookmarks with anything more than a URL as content via Micropub is broken.
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Zegnat But I would want to test it myself before stating so definitively.
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Zegnat Which means, if you want likes/bookmarks with text content: use the Known API where you can provide “description”.
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jeremycherfas That's what I want to say too. But it is perfctly possible to create the body by hand when cwriting a bookmark post
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jeremycherfas But using the known API is exactly where we started! And the problem there was that the Known API mangles the description.
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Zegnat Which may be a bug in itself.
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jeremycherfas And on which I have seen very little movement recently.
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Zegnat (And this is why nobody of us is offering hosted Known and support in their free time 😉)
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jeremycherfas I need to write some notes to myself and then think about raising an issue on the Like plugin.
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jeremycherfas Heh.
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dgold Zegnat: /me has discovered the null coalescing operator
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dgold and all is well with the world
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Zegnat Haha
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Loqi Zegnat: lol
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dgold makes my script php7.0 required, but such is life
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Zegnat And why should it not be? We are on PHP 7.2 and 5.6 is only getting security fixes.
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dgold oh, believe me, I'm happy
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Zegnat is still a little upset that 5.6 will get patches longer than 7.0
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dgold i can say with confidence that Known does not save the rich-format data from a like to the sql
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aaronpk oh wow I never knew about that operator
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dgold its the fashizzle (technical term)
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aaronpk wow that's gonna clean up a lot of code haha
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aaronpk my site is running under 7.2 now, so at least I can use it there if not in all my little libraries
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[jeremycherfas] dgold Are you sure you wouldn’t prefer a spaceship operator?
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dgold [jeremycherfas]: I prefer the name of the spaceship operator, sure!
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dgold but I quite honestly don't _understand_ the spaceship
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[jeremycherfas] I don’t understand why it has that name. Go no-go?
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aaronpk cause it looks like a spaceship?
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sknebel <=> looks like a flying saucer
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[jeremycherfas] Ok
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aaronpk apparently I need to read the PHP release notes more often
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dgold whereas having typed `$var = (isset($abcdef['ghi']['jkl'])) ? $abcdef['ghi']['jkl'] : null` over and over again for weeks, stripping all that down to a single operator? I can grok that instantly
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[jeremycherfas] I really do not want to start digging into knowns sql for what is in some ways a very silly itch.
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aaronpk the spaceship will be useful for custom sorting functions
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Zegnat I would just say, disable the Like plugin, and add your own separate Like/Bookmark/whatever plugins, [jeremycherfas]. But I guess that will break other stuff, possibly including POSSE likes (if Known has those?)
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aaronpk in other news, anyone have a suggestion for how to install some vesrion of phpunit in a way that can be run under php 5.6 through 7.2?
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aaronpk I have that set up in php-mf2, but can't seem to replicate it in a new project
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dgold iirc, phpunit doesn't do 5.6 since last december, aaronpk
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dgold phpunit 5.6 only gets bugfix support until next Friday
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dgold 5.7, sorry
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aaronpk I don't care if I have to use an old version of phpunit, but I need something that can run the tests under php 5.6
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gRegorLove On dreamhost you could use `php56` to invoke composer at the command line iirc
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gRegorLove Similar should work with phpunit
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aaronpk I keep getting this error trying to install phpunit 5 "phpunit/phpunit 5.0.0 conflicts with phpunit/phpunit-mock-objects[5.0.6]"
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aaronpk tho i'm running this composer command in php 7.1
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aaronpk yep, installing that under php 5.6 worked
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aaronpk someone must have messed up a version requirement string in phpunit-mock-objects
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aaronpk and using the composer.lock that 5.6 generated works fine when installing it in 7.1
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aaronpk whee
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Zegnat Ugh, this is going to bite me: https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew-php/issues/4721
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Loqi [MikeMcQuaid] #4721 Homebrew/php deprecation
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aaronpk oh yeah me too
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aaronpk 🎉 works in 5.6-nightly! https://travis-ci.org/aaronpk/p3k-micropub
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dgold :) I don't have php installed locally at all...
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Zegnat How do you cope dgold?! :P
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dgold Zegnat: i just keep stuff like that where it belongs, onna server someplace
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[miklb] guess you don’t do any offline development?
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Zegnat I am without solid internet connection so often these days that I can’t imagine outsourcing everything to external servers
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aaronpk I usually get a lot of work done on planes when there is no internet connection
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[miklb] Best thing I ever did was figure out how to get local dev environment running with homebrew. So seamless and part of my daily workflow now, it’s crazy thinking back to use MAMP or even Vagrant
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GWG I never do offline development
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Loqi GWG: sknebel left you a message 19 hours, 26 minutes ago: could you review the wordpress column in https://indieweb.org/Micropub/Servers#Implementation_status and bring it up to date if it is not? Thanks!
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GWG Forgot about that
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GWG I wish I could use that PHP operator. Curse my need for inclusiveness
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gRegorLove I've been on Windows for a while so never had a strong desire to mess with local PHP dev :)
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gRegorLove If I switch to Mac or Linux, I'm definitely more likely to
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Zegnat How is that new Ubuntu-shell-within-Windows? Tried that?
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dgold [miklb]: no, I never do offline development
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gRegorLove Haven't tried it
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www.boffosocko.com edited /Webmention (+525) "lazymention service & article" (view diff)
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gRegorLove What is lazymention?
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Loqi lazymention is an open source service you can run on a Node.js server to send Webmentions from static sites https://indieweb.org/lazymention
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gRegorLove KevinMarks, is pestagram dead?
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[kevinmarks] Yes, the api it was using went away, and it violated several terms for the new one.
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snarfed [kevinmarks]: feel free to port pestagram to granary (scraping)!
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gRegorLove ooh, I didn't think to try granary
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gRegorLove snarfed, What's activity_id, or does that apply to IG?
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snarfed gRegorLove: post id. for IG it can be photo id or shortcode
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snarfed blank for all
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snarfed https://granary.readthedocs.io/en/latest/#using-the-rest-api
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gRegorLove Thanks!
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gRegorLove Oops, totally missed the docs link, sorry. Jumped to the bottom and only found github. :)
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snarfed np! it's in the github readme too. happy to answer q's regardless