#dev 2018-02-05

2018-02-05 UTC
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aaronpk omfg
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aaronpk I got it
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aaronpk finally
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aaronpk I wish I know what I was doing so I could write up instructions
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[cleverdevil] Sorry had I been paying attention I would have lent a hand.
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[cleverdevil] I do a lot of Python.
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[cleverdevil] Every language but PHP has a terrible deployment story :P
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aaronpk so true
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aaronparecki.com edited /silo.pub (+2115) "add my notes about setting up silopub on ubuntu 16.04" (view diff)
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loqi.me edited /Facebook (+58) "[kevinmarks] added "https://techcrunch.com/2018/02/03/facebooks-siren-call/" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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[eddie] aaronpk++ for silo.pub in PHP! Haha. I wanna do a local silo.pub installation but I’m worried about having to deal with Python, since I’m already doing Node.js and PHP
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Loqi aaronpk has 113 karma in this channel (1557 overall)
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Loqi awesome
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[eddie] I love writing JavaScript, I wish it was easier as a server. It’s easy for me but not for new people
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[eddie] Really I’m curious about Swift on the Server. Binary seems like it should be an easy deployment, but I don’t know how that will play with shared servers
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aaronpk Probably not well on shared servers
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aaronpk I finally got silo.pub working but omg, I do not recommend trying if you’re not familiar with python stuff
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[kevinmarks] Have you looked at Glitch.com?
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[kevinmarks] I wonder if go works out as easier to deploy, as its a binary
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aaronpk binary isn't gonna solve it on shared hosting either way
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aaronpk glitch.com doesn't strike me as something for production deployments
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[eddie] Yeah, I’ve touched Python very little. Lol good to know you don’t recommend it! I’ll have to decide what I want to do, because I definitely want to find some streamlined approach so I’ll have to think through what I want to do
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aaronpk I don't really understand why python is so foreign to me
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aaronpk Even Go makes more sense to me
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Zegnat Hmm, are any PHP & composer geniuses online at the moment?
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cweiske not genius, but capable
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Zegnat cweiske: https://i.imgur.com/cZdmGyt.png - it seems to say the package that is already installed fulfills the requirements. But then it also says that's a problem.
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cweiske the middleware package probably contains a conflicts-with entry
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cweiske so that handler 1.0.1 cannot be used
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Zegnat That’s what I thought, but it doesn’t. https://github.com/http-interop/http-server-middleware/blob/e605a7f47a002e857a3b9bb992010e2f859e4560/composer.json
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cweiske https://packagist.org/packages/http-interop/http-server-handler#1.0.1
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cweiske conflicts
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cweiske http-interop/http-middleware: >=0.5
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Zegnat yes, http-middleware. Because it was renamed. They are now http-server-middleware and http-server-handler.
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Zegnat And those two packages are what I am trying to get side by side.
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Zegnat The composer error is less than helpful *sigh*
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Zegnat split up and renamed, I should say.
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jeremycherfas Is there any way to discover just by looking whether a database offers a public API?
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jeremycherfas I suppose the variables in the URL after a search offer clues.
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jeremycherfas I'm trying to find a way to scrape all records from http://ec.europa.eu/food/plant/plant_propagation_material/plant_variety_catalogues_databases/search/public/index.cfm?event=SearchForm&ctl_type=H including the notes for each entry.
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Zegnat Note that changing URLs to scrape content may or may not be breaching some computing laws ;) https://www.eff.org/cases/us-v-auernheimer
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Zegnat That said, EU dbs are usually open for all. Lets see if I can find something there.
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jeremycherfas Don't waste time on it if you're busy.
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Zegnat I’m waiting for my tea to finish brewing, great little spat of down time
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jeremycherfas Well, thanks. If you can find something, I'd be most grateful.
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Zegnat jeremycherfas, I think this is it: http://data.europa.eu/euodp/en/data/dataset/7A98oEqVa83q6L7tHQ
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jeremycherfas That is it; going to take a look at the open data -- XML! -- when I've had my coffee.
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jeremycherfas Thanks and enjoy your tea.
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[hans] Anyone game to help me figure out why I can’t use omnibear to “like” a page (on someone else’s domain)?
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Zegnat Dataset seems to come in XML and JSON files, all with RDF for type data, so the files might feel a bit bloated. But will be interesting to see what you are looking for jeremycherfas! :)
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[hans] (with the caveat that I understand web tech but not yet indieweb protocols for reactions, webmentions, etc.)
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Zegnat [hans], yes, after pouring my tea ;)
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[hans] oh, look, it’s keithjgrant’s site. That seems like it should work 😄
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Zegnat Alright. Back. What’s the problem?
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[hans] When I try to “like” using OmniBear on this page, I get only “Error posting like” https://keithjgrant.com/posts/2018/01/introducing-sidecar/
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Loqi Introducing Sidecar
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[hans] but I’m presently having trouble getting to my heroku instance with my micropub endpoint, so I may have cried wolf prematurely, here
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Zegnat Seems to work for me. https://sink.zegnat.net/10837n87B867rNNHs42S8D4gQet
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[hans] indeed, the problem is me. Carry on!
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[hans] (For some reason giving any client my domain with “https” causes troubles. I need to familiarize myself with micropub more before I can diagnose that publicly.)
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Zegnat That’s odd. Micropub shouldn’t care about that.
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[hans] I wouldn’t think. And my (static, CloudFront) site redirects http: to https:
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[hans] …but my endpoint is http (for now). Perhaps that is confusing some clients, or maybe I have a <link> wrong
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Zegnat Are they on the same domain and do you/CloudFront set Strict Transport Security? That could easily happen by mistake, in which case all http will be redirected to https by the browser.
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Zegnat I made the mistake once to set Strict Transport Security for all subdomains, and then broke some things because some subdomains pointed to http-only hosts.
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cweiske if your website redirects to https and you list the http url as endpoint, then software might see that as different urls
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Zegnat Micropub endpoint can be on a different URL though, shouldn’t be an issue
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dgold but if your site is redirecting all calls to http: to https:, then how can you be accessing a http: address?
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sknebel the endpoint is on a different domain
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[hans] My endpoint is on a different hostname than the site. They share a domain, but are peers so there shouldn’t be any weird inheritance in browser handling.
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[hans] (site is https://hans.gerwitz.com/, endpoint is http://micropub.gerwitz.com/micropub … I suspect I have my endpoint poorly configured as a result of my “bang on shit until something works” approach setting it up.)
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cweiske [hans], you could try shpub for debugging. it gives you curl commands with --debug that you can use to inspect the communication
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cweiske i.e. use shpub to like a page. if that fails, try it with --debug and you'll see the curl cli command, which then you can execute to see the response and its headers
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[hans] cweiske nice, thanks. I’ve gotten by alright just watching my endpoint’s logs, but watching the actual traffic will doubtless help in the future.
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[hans] The old “wipe configs clean and start over” trick seems to have worked. Whichever part was wrong is not in source control so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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[hans] (Now, figuring out what to do with non-note posts on my site is another matter…)
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aaronpk well that wasn't my plan for this morning
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aaronpk closed a bunch of ownyourgram tickets tho
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snarfed ?
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aaronpk :shrug:
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aaronpk you can have ownyourgram add tags to every post now
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snarfed aaronpk++
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Loqi aaronpk has 114 karma in this channel (1558 overall)
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aaronpk https://aaronparecki.com/2018/02/05/6/ownyourgram
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Loqi [Aaron Parecki] OwnYourGram Updates
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tantek.com edited /Movescount (+874) "Downtime, see also twitter" (view diff)
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@ronguest @Indie_Auth I'm trying to setup with IndieAuth and added a link back to my site to places like GitHub and Twitter but the auth fails. I couldn't find a way to include rel=me on those sites and Google search has failed me. Help please. (twitter.com/_/status/960601044869885952)
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gRegorLove_ Missing rels on homepage to Twitter and Github on ^
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gRegorLove_ Oops, no, there they are.
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gRegorLove_ Seems to find them on indieauth.com
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sknebel see main channel :)
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gRegorLove_ oh hehe
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tantek.com edited /FOSDEM (+76) "stub 2018" (view diff)
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tantek argh I need to file github issues and still haven't gotten that working on my own site yet
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[miklb] 😉
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[miklb] manual til it hurts™
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tantek it's hurting 😔
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tantek I'm queuing up issues to file behind the implementation task
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tantek what is GPX
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "GPX" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "GPX is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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tantek huh
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tantek.com edited /Movescount (+290) "downtime over 24h, demand for export" (view diff)
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tantek hmm https://indieweb.org/GPX exists
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tantek.com edited /Movescount (+7) "toc" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Movescount (+19) "subhead downtime 2018-02-04" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Suunto (+483) "Demand for export" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Suunto (+17) "/* See Also */ movescount" (view diff)
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[kevinmarks] Devrel job working on open source cms's at Google https://careers.google.com/jobs#!t=jo&jid=/google/developer-programs-engineer-web-content-google-building-41-1600-amphitheatre-2847440009&
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johnjohnston.info blog edited /User:Johnjohnston.info_blog (+4) "/* Introduction */" (view diff)
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