#dev 2018-04-13
2018-04-13 UTC
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# [kevinmarks] Interesting with generations in mind https://twitter.com/miriamkp/status/984162861705445376?s=19
# @miriamkp When we read Star and Ruhleder's "Steps Toward an Ecology of Infrastructure" last quarter I felt a jolt of recognition. Double-bind! Stop telling people that things are easy when they are patently not. It makes people feel like they're going mad. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dahyv2SVwAAB-p8.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/984162861705445376)
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# jeremycherfas !tell dgold you know that 10C has had hosted blogs since forever?
# jeremycherfas !tell dgold s/blogs/podcasts/
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# Zegnat For all the iOS devs out there, some things to think about! https://developer.paciellogroup.com/blog/2018/04/short-note-on-accommodating-the-users-display-preferences-on-ios/
# jeremycherfas Yeah. I haven't actually looked at it as I don't have a need. Mostly because I don't microcast all that often, especially since I gave up doing Dog Days of Podcasting last year. When I was, I found Twisted Wave, Auphonic and DropBox worked ok for me. But I am all in on iOS, for shame.
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# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "fpm" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "fpm is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# Loqi uwsgi is an application server conforming to the WSGI Python standard https://indieweb.org/uwsgi
# tantek_ static site << Why / use-cases, see thread: https://twitter.com/drewm/status/983634762433810432
# @drewm What do you think the best use cases are for a static site generator? (twitter.com/_/status/983634762433810432)
# Loqi ok, I added "Why / use-cases, see thread: https://twitter.com/drewm/status/983634762433810432" to the "See Also" section of /static_site https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=46841&oldid=43988
# Zegnat lang << https://codepen.io/tigt/post/notes-on-lang - Lots of information about the <code>lang</code> attribute and its values, language codes.
# Loqi ok, I added "https://codepen.io/tigt/post/notes-on-lang - Lots of information about the <code>lang</code> attribute and its values, language codes." to the "See Also" section of /language https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=46842&oldid=36140
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# tantek_ which has really made it obvious I need in-stream reply contexts: http://tantek.com/ π
# KartikPrabhu it looks silly even on your homepage :P
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# swentel [tantek], http://ibb.co/n85B1n ;-)
# schmarty tantek: https://martymcgui.re/2018/04/13/080659/ π
# [jgmac1106] Swentel, not getting a crash just a 401 error missing access token, but again could be Indieauth error on my blog. It always tells me I am not a member of my own website
# swentel [jgmac1106], you are using wordpress right? Is that with this plugin : https://github.com/snarfed/wordpress-micropub
# [jgmac1106] Yes, but could easily be a theme conflict, I am not using on of the few fully compatible must say though folks behind hueman have been really supportive
# [jgmac1106] as long as 1.4 is same version
# [jgmac1106] indieauth is my first suspect as that will not work for me, yet interestingly I can log on to indigenous
# [jgmac1106] using my domain.
# [jgmac1106] to my wp site no, never been able to get it working, but using my url to my wordpress site I can log into indigenous
# [jgmac1106] I am going to try micro.blog out though with it so don't go crazy. I want to see what it the would look like as teaching tool. If every student had an account and I could build feeds for each class, teaching my students to tag posts by unit would be way easy (say then explaining categories/tags in WP). If what I see in the screenshots I can envision kinda what I want for instructional design. Feel like decentralized LMS gets closer. Wish the
# [jgmac1106] pull in feeds from private hypothes.is groups. Can generate RSS for any public annotation feed but I won't force students to release their content in the public domain.
# [jgmac1106] nevermind on indieauth not working, just worked. Sweet, first time ever. Whatever @gwg did worked
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# [jgmac1106] and success @swentel
# [jgmac1106] proof is in the pudding, looks like it syndicated to twitter my h-card was included, and its on my blog
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# grantcodes Hey swentel would also love to help test indigenous if I can!
# grantcodes mail@grant.codes should work if you need an email
# grantcodes Yeah that'll work
# swentel grantcodes, added - link is https://play.google.com/apps/testing/com.indieweb.indigenous
# grantcodes Awesome! Thanks
# grantcodes Worked straight away
# grantcodes swentel++
# Loqi [Grant Richmond] Probably the best parking spot I've ever found https://grant.codes/media/2018/03/01/original
# grantcodes Guanajuato, MΓ©xico
# grantcodes Only thing I've noticed in the app is I don't know what the "to like URL" / "to reply URL" checkboxes mean when sharing a link?
# grantcodes Yeah, just has that one extra option that was a mystery to me π
# grantcodes Generally it's automatic
# grantcodes I think most people send them to any url in any property
# grantcodes It's great though. I'll be able to get rid of my own very hacky Android app for sharing urls to micropub!
# grantcodes aaronpk: is the indieauth css open source? Always annoys me that it should be more responsive
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# [jgmac1106] it did look strange. Will try to grad screenshots
# grantcodes yeah main thing is the padding
# grantcodes I feel it's simple enough that it wouldn't be crazy to just do a custom style, no bootstrap. I think it would be cool if it had more of it's own branding
# grantcodes What's the difference for the uninatiated? One is about the spec, the other is a hosted provider?
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# grantcodes Ah ok, one is login, one is permissions?
# aaronpk myindieauth.com is what you use once you're implementing a micropub endpoint, or when you want to control exactly how you authenticate to other sites. myindieauth.com implements the IndieAuth OAuth 2 spec so you don't have to yourself. it's an IndieAuth authorization endpoint as a service.
# grantcodes Right, think I understand
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# [xavierroy] @swentel Does Indigenious work with WP?
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# [jgmac1106] [xavierroy] working for me. I need to figure out some stuff around not getting specific post-kinds to publish to my feed but that shouldn't be too hard
# [xavierroy] I have the micropub plugin enabled. Let me disable it and reenable to check
# [jgmac1106] [xavierroy] also check for manual updates [eddie] and @swerty been pushing like every ten minutes.
# [xavierroy] [jgmac1106] i'm on version 0.7. is there a newer version than that/
# [jgmac1106] what I am on as well
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# [stefp] 0.7 of Indigenous?
# [stefp] Iβm still on 0.2.4 via Testflight.
# [stefp] ah ok
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# aaronpk oh joy, instagram changed their "api" again https://travis-ci.org/aaronpk/OwnYourGram/builds/366230534
# aaronpk i've been working on something like that https://github.com/aaronpk/p3k-micropub
# aaronpk takes a request in form-encoded as well as json and normalizes it to a microformats json object https://github.com/aaronpk/p3k-micropub#handling-the-request
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# [snarfed] [aaronpk] re Instagram, odd, granary didn't notice a change. eg https://granary.io/instagram/aaronpk/@self/@app/?format=as2
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# Loqi Netlify is a CDN/static hosting provider with integrated build service, useful for static site generators https://indieweb.org/Netlify
# aaronparecki.com edited /OAuth (+200) "add link to oauth playground, update book info" (view diff)
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# kaushalmodi dgold: As I am just learning, I won't be able to use nanopub on Netlify :(
# kaushalmodi I talked to the Netlify customer service reps and they won't allow running any dynamic script on their servers.
# kaushalmodi So looks like only the nanopub based endpoint would need to be hosted somewhere else that allows running php?
# kaushalmodi Also in the process, I learned about https://github.com/voxpelli/webpage-micropub-to-github, which can work for Hugo too.
# kaushalmodi So, something pings nanopub to generate micropub content.. somehow that talks to webpage-micropub-to-github so that the content gets auto-committed, somehow that sends a POST request to my Netlify account that rebuilds by Hugo site..
# kaushalmodi so a lot of unknowns there..
# kaushalmodi dgold: Thank you. Just to let you know that it's alright if this doesn't work out. May be this is one of those things that I adapt to my site just as I learn, with time :)
# kaushalmodi dgold: "I have _0_ experience of netlify": Simply put, Netlify provides free continuous deployment of my site with free hosting under the condition that all content is purely STATIC.. so no scripts running on their server.
# kaushalmodi I commit my Hugo content files to Gitlab > Netlify sees the commits > Triggers hugo build > My site gets deployed
# kaushalmodi About other possibilities, I found one person Josh Johnson on twitter who uses Hugo + Netlify but uses voxpelli's package that I referenced earlier
# kaushalmodi .. using Heroku (which also I don't know anything about). So a roadblock there too.
# @jnjosh @kaushalmodi Yeah, the micropub api is based on this project https://github.com/voxpelli/webpage-micropub-to-github and deployed to Heroku. Itβs not the best, and only supports text-based post. Iβve been meaning to look into it again but havenβt had a chance. (twitter.com/_/status/984634880586862592)
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# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "emojitag" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "emojitag is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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