#dev 2018-04-18

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GWG schmarty: I don't have a media endpoint
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GWG Someday
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schmarty I am honestly thinking of dropping the mp3 id3 data from the micropub post
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schmarty It probably doesn’t belong in a form encoded post
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GWG schmarty: I would have put it different
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GWG schmarty: An h-cite, basically, with a name, summary, duration, and category property.
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[kevinmarks] https://twitter.com/anildash/status/986231155841265665?s=19
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@anildash Oh, I forgot to mention that I relaunched my personal blog on @Glitch: https://anildash.com/ — there are still some rough edges I need to clean up, and old posts to reformat, but the basics are there. Feedback and suggestions welcome! (twitter.com/_/status/986231155841265665)
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schmarty I thought about something similar to that, but as nested data I think that requires a JSON request
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[kevinmarks] Does this mean that we can add microformats to anils blog?
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schmarty kevinmarks: I am super excited about glitch for indieweb
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tantek wow does that mean he finally abandoned Movable Type?
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schmarty I have proof of concept IndieAuth and Micropub endpoints on glitch: https://martymcgui.re/tag/glitch/
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tantek whoa
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tantek what is Glitch
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Loqi Glitch (formerly Gomix, HyperDev before that) is a tool by Fog Creek Software to allow you to quickly prototype web applications in a complete IDE with built in version control, sharing, and more https://indieweb.org/Glitch
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tantek schmarty: please add your examples to there ^^^ !!!
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schmarty tantek: will do!
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schmarty (Boarding a plane atm)
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j12t So I thought I had seen everything. And then I came across aaronpk's Caterpillar doing multithreading in PHP :-)
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tantek what is Caterpillar?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Caterpillar" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Caterpillar is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[eddie] !tell aaronpk: Finally fixed most of the issues in Indigenous that was causing me to have to switch over to Monocle (primarily auto-reading, as well as content html images were missing). See video above for auto-read 👆 yay!!
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi giggles
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dansup I announced my federated instagram project with a lot of positive response :) https://mastodon.social/@dansup/99877423794532057
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Loqi [dansup] Federated Instagram. #soon
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Ruxton is there an accepted post kind for something like top-10s? I've started working on a site that's posting localised music charts
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Loqi Ruxton: tantek left you a message on 2018-02-18 at 1:58am UTC: Do you remember when you posted your first "note" post on your own site? Link to it in a new section in https://indieweb.org/note#IndieWeb_Examples and insert your new section in date order! (and link to any POSSE copy you posted too!)
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tantek what is a listicle
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "listicle" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "listicle is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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tantek dansup - I'm hoping that by "federated" you mean with indieweb compatible building blocks so things "just work" with all the /photo posting that we're already doing across our sites
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tantek and that would be a big differentiator to point out in response to comments like: https://mastodon.social/@ahmd_amsyr/99877464181701885
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Loqi [Ahmad Amsyar [01]] @dansup I thought we can use Mastodon for that. 😕
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dansup tantek: thats the interesting point, I want to support both ActivityPub and indieweb protoocols
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tantek sounds awesome!
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dansup I might ask some of you for help testing them, but I think everything will work out
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tantek definitely, I'm sure you'll find plenty of folks here eager to help out
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dansup tantek: sounds good, I was invited to #social on w3c and hope to support as many different protocols as possible
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tantek.com edited /reacji (+37) "/* Brainstoming */ "to" to indicate meaning" (view diff)
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tantek hmm, looks like Bridgy Publish to GitHub doesn't escape plaintext markup in the original. e.g. http://tantek.com/2018/107/t3/ has a <data> element example, while POSSE copy https://github.com/microformats/microformats2-parsing/issues/10#issuecomment-382262503 seems to have lost the <data> (but it's still in the Markdown source if I click edit)
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Loqi [Tantek Çelik] Additionally there is a compelling use-case for this proposal: Permalink pages which do not link to themselves or otherwise display their own URL. This proposal would enable the relatively (so to speak) minimal markup: <data class="u-url" value=""...
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snarfed tantek: interesting. if you just type it into the comment box manually, it behaves the same way
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tantek snarfed however I thought you were using HTML2text or something
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tantek which should know the difference between markup in the source and markup in plaintext
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tantek I have a feeling that any HTML & entities will also be lost
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snarfed yup, i am, and yes, i expect that's right
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snarfed sounds worth fixing
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tantek sound like HTML2text does not know to escape & <
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tantek and probably > also for good measure
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tantek escaping those three should be enough to fix these
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snarfed eh, it's arguably doing the right thing
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snarfed at least the default. may have an option to do this
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snarfed thanks for the heads up! feel free to file an issue
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tantek ok will do
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tantek done: https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/810 (and it demonstrates the issue itself :) )
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Loqi [tantek] #810 Bridgy Publish to GitHub should preserve markup in plaintext as such
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snarfed hah, funny. thanks!
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petermolnar.net edited /IndieWeb (+139) "adding a vague, minor, extra description to what the indieweb is in order to clarify it a bit more for complete newcomers" (view diff)
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jeremycherfas.net edited /IndieWeb (-2) (view diff)
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jeremycherfas petermolnar++
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Loqi petermolnar has 7 karma in this channel (53 overall)
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petermolnar do we have a wiki page on, say, and indieweb "workflow"? one that describes Bob posting with micropub, Bob notifying Alice with webmentions, Alice getting a webmention, Alice reading Bob via websub
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cweiske I recently collected that for brid.gy: https://chat.indieweb.org/2018-04-10#t1523362402714800
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Loqi [cweiske] MichiMauch, the brid.gy process is as follows:
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cweiske but i'd love to have such a process overview for all kind of things, yes
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cweiske petermolnar, https://indieweb.org/Webmention-developer#Overview
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petermolnar.net edited /IndieWeb (+310) "restructuring and adding a few extra sections for simpler navigation" (view diff)
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sknebel Netlify << https://www.netlify.com/docs/functions/ they now offer some kind of management layer for [[AWS Lambda]] functions.
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Loqi ok, I added "https://www.netlify.com/docs/functions/ they now offer some kind of management layer for [[AWS Lambda]] functions." to the "See Also" section of /Netlify https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=46969&oldid=46847
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@scottmallinson Finally getting the hang of #webmentions. Managed to successfully poll and retrieve responses for https://scottmallinson.com/blog/2018/04/18/2038/ and http://landsremote.co. https://scottmallinson.com/blog/2018/04/18/2038/ (twitter.com/_/status/986585039889715201)
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j4y_funabashi woop, just got my login/authorization working \o/ even works with Zegnat's sink :)
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j4y_funabashi just need to transfer my micropub client over to lambda now and I will be able to post again
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jeremycherfas Very cool.
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aaronpk can anyone who's working on microsub stuff add themselves here? https://indieweb.org/Microsub
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Loqi aaronpk: [eddie] left you a message 11 hours, 3 minutes ago: Finally fixed most of the issues in Indigenous that was causing me to have to switch over to Monocle (primarily auto-reading, as well as content html images were missing). See video above for auto-read 👆 yay!!
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swentel does that include reading from it with indigenous?
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swentel we should probably edit the clients part of indigenous there and include the android part too
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www.svenknebel.de edited /Microsub (+90) "/* Servers */ WIP" (view diff)
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Loqi agreed.
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aaronpk if you're building anything that interacts with microsub then yes
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aaronpk definitely add the android client!
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aaronpk i want to pretty up that page a little before friday since it's the first external link in the article that's going out
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swentel hmmm, I hate wiki markup
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aaronparecki.com edited /Microsub (+169) "/* Clients */ +Monocle" (view diff)
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aaronpk hah yeah
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aaronpk it's not the greatest thing in the world
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aaronpk [eddie] can you add a screenshot of Indigenous iOS to https://indieweb.org/Indigenous and https://indieweb.org/Microsub?
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cweiske what is the greatest thing in the world
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "greatest thing in the world" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "greatest thing in the world is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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aaronpk same for android
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swentel so {{eddiehinkle.com}} nicely links to the user page of Eddie, but {{realize.be}} does nothing and [https://indieweb.org/User:Realize.be Kristof de Jaeger] shows a stupid arrow :/
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aaronpk that's done with a template
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swentel oh
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aaronpk https://indieweb.org/Template:irc_user
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aaronpk er wait
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aaronpk wrong one
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aaronpk this one https://indieweb.org/Template:sparkline
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aaronpk or just copypaste from mine https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?title=Template:aaronpk&action=edit
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swentel I have an image at https://realize.be/sites/default/files/Screenshot_20180411-111033.png for android
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swentel but it's a bit big :/
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aaronpk the wiki will resize it
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realize.be edited /Indigenous (+71) "Adding image" (view diff)
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aaronpk can we upload that to the wiki? (cc0)
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swentel hmmm https://indieweb.org/Indigenous
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swentel really big :/
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aaronparecki.com edited /Indigenous (+24) "smaller image" (view diff)
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aaronpk quick fix
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swentel ooh
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swentel yeah, that's better
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jeremycherfas The greatest thing in the world is sliced bread.
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Loqi ok
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loqi.me created /greatest_thing_in_the_world (+71) "prompted by cweiske and dfn added by jeremycherfas" (view diff)
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realize.be edited /Microsub (+103) "Add myself" (view diff)
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swentel (still looking for the template haha)
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swentel aha
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j4y_funabashi aaronpk: https://indieauth.spec.indieweb.org/#access-token-response defines a token_type property, just wondering what it is used for? do I need to save it for later requests?
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aaronpk nah probably not. that's from OAuth 2.0 which allows for multiple types of access tokens, but we only use Bearer tokens in IndieAuth
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j4y_funabashi cool, while getting this to work I noticed that https://tokens.indieauth.com/token does not return it
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realize.be edited /Microsub (-72) "Use template" (view diff)
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aaronpk orly, it should. probably cause i built that endpoint before writing up the spec
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swentel ok, let me see, I have more screenshots for android
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@EatPodcast Thilled to see a webmention from Peter Reinhart https://www.eatthispodcast.com/mentions/#comment-91038 but it turned out not be be quite the real thing. @ChrisAldrich you might want to investigate. (twitter.com/_/status/986603619108597761)
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[eddie] aaronpk: If you want me to add a screenshot to /microsub, should I conver the individual clients to section entries rather than bullet points in a list?
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aaronpk [eddie]: yes plz
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[eddie] :thumbsup:
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j4y_funabashi aaronpk: yeah no problem if we dont need it, just thought I would point it out
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aaronpk added! thanks
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realize.be edited /Indigenous (+305) "More images" (view diff)
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swentel hmm
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swentel is there a limit on 3 images?
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aaronpk missing "
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swentel ugh
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realize.be edited /Indigenous (+1) (view diff)
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swentel ok that's better
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aaronpk 🎉
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realize.be edited /Indigenous (+0) "switch order" (view diff)
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realize.be edited /Indigenous (+43) "Add alpha status" (view diff)
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swentel so, maybe the main indigenous page with 4 android screenshots is a bit much
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swentel especially since the dedicated ios page has them there too
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aaronpk screenshots are great!
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aaronpk maybe don't include all 4 android screenshots on the Microsub page, but that's great for the Indigenous page
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realize.be edited /Indigenous (-42) "/* Platforms */" (view diff)
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swentel ok
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swentel but I'll add them all four on the dedicated android page too I guess
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swentel (feel free to edit at will of course :)
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realize.be edited /Indigenous_for_Android (+481) "Add screenshot on dedicated android page too" (view diff)
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realize.be edited /Indigenous_for_Android (-42) "/* IndieWeb Usage */" (view diff)
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aaronparecki.com edited /Micropub () "(-716) remove example that is in the spec" (view diff)
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cweiske swentel, can't you put up an .apk file on your website or in the github releases section?
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cweiske I have a phone without google
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swentel hmm
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swentel can I upload to the releases section
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cweiske if you tag your code
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cweiske then yes
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swentel ah yes indeed
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swentel ok, let me build a new one first
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cweiske "Draft a new release"
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swentel !tell cweiske release at https://github.com/swentel/indigenous-android/releases
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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realize.be edited /Indigenous_for_Android (+115) "/* IndieWeb Usage */" (view diff)
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swentel [eddie], also have question for you. I'm thinking to maybe setup a gofundme page to get some funding so I can work a bit during office hours :) I'm mentioning the Drupal plugin and HTC server costs.
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swentel so far so fine, but I'm not sure if I want to include Indigenous, because you are also working on it, and that might feel a bit akward
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swentel for the public as maybe for you too
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swentel (also not sure whether I could raise a lot, but probably Dries (drupal lead) will endorse it *if* I go public)
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swentel so, there some options, leave it out, include it, or maybe even include iOS too and then I donate some money to you as well
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swentel don't need an answer immediately, let it sink in first :)
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aaronpk swentel: relatedly, I'm considering opening up Aperture for signups soon in some sort of limited capacity, so if you think Dries is going to mention the app at some point we should coordinate on that
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eddiehinkle.com edited /Microsub (+324) "Microsub Client layout updates" (view diff)
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swentel yeah, my plan is to run aperture also on the local hwc site I'm setting up (hwc.gent) for the local community
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swentel I still need to talk this through with him
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swentel he has a lot of exposure, so coordinating is definitely key here
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[eddie] swentel: No worries. Feel free to include the Android Indigenous app in there if you like. Once Indigenous for iOS is in the App Store, I’ll probably add a “In App Donate Button” in the settings screen for people that appreciate the app and wish to contribute back. (Some of my favorite free apps have that as an option). Each person is in a different place in life and needs different things out of their projects. No need to feel akward if y
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[eddie] Android on your list of projects when you are raising funding 😄
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swentel hehe ok, thanks :)
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swentel well, still setting up the 'marketing' haha
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swentel secretely I'm just hoping that Dries says, here have 5k and finish that drupal part :P
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[eddie] That would definitely be awesome. Finishing up great Drupal support would be huge for making it easier for people to get into IndieWeb stuff!
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swentel true
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swentel and there's already a lot in it, and it will get more attention once he starts exposing it on his site
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swentel anyway
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swentel time for ... inline html image parsing haha
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swentel :(
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[eddie] oh no! lol it didn’t end up being too bad when I did that last night
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swentel I've done two iterations already, but mostly because I'm struggling with presentation
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swentel I have 'Read more' button now in the timeline which expands the the article
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swentel but I'm thinking to trigger a separate screen for really long articles
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[eddie] Yeah, I think a separate screen for really long articles is good. Right now if you swipe right to left it takes you to the originating URL, but in either this update or the next, when you do that it’ll take you to a Full Text View, showing the entire articles, all the images, etc. Including reply context if it’s there
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swentel yep, makes more sense
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petermolnar.net edited /Main_Page (+8) "repointing IndieWeb url from / to point to /IndieWeb on the front page to make more sense" (view diff)
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swentel I'm going to ask my design colleage to create a small style guide too
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swentel matching colors
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swentel and some icons
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[eddie] That’s awesome. Definitely a great step.
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swentel I'll share them once I have something, so we at least be more or less consistent with that
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[eddie] Most definitely, that sounds perfect
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eddiehinkle.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:indigenous-0.3-reader.png]]" https://indieweb.org/File:indigenous-0.3-reader.png"
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eddiehinkle.com edited /Microsub (+83) "/* iOS */ add screenshot" (view diff)
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realize.be edited /Indigenous_for_Android (+327) "Add features" (view diff)
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eddiehinkle.com edited /Microsub (+151) "/* IndieWeb Examples */" (view diff)
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realize.be edited /Microsub (+103) "/* IndieWeb Examples */" (view diff)
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aaronpk 🎉
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eddiehinkle.com edited /Indigenous (+84) "/* iOS */ Added screenshot of reader" (view diff)
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[eddie] haha, my laptop was almost dead, so the simulator screenshot of Indigenous has an almost dead battery. 😆
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swentel hehe
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aaronpk wait the simulator battery shows the laptop's battery??
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[eddie] Yep
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aaronpk i never knew that lol
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[eddie] It’s the little things. haha
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[eddie] Hmm, I’m thinking when you’re in timeline view, instead of having the user’s URL as the back button it should probably just say “Channels”. I’m guessing some people’s URLs will be untenable in that position.
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[eddie] Let me know if there is anything else I can do to help out the Microsub sections, but I think I’m done for now :thumbsup:
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swentel hmm yeah
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swentel on android it's just a back arrow
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swentel and the name of the channel next to it
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swentel (but that's more or less android behavior of course)
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swentel (the arrow at least)
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swentel man, I love that there's a 'new' indicator in my timeline now lol
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swentel now I know when to stop scrolling heh
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[eddie] Oh Yeah, new indicators are amazing 😄
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tantek what is tag-of
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Loqi A tag reply is a special edit response to a post that tags that post with one or more tags, including possibly (or only) person-tags https://indieweb.org/tag-of
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tantek hmm I wonder if Bridgy Publish to GitHub supports POSSEing those
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tantek investigates
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tantek (yes, based on actual need like right now)
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[eddie] Oh swentel, regarding caching channels. I am actually gonna be caching channels in this next version, because I’m introducing channel specific settings (namely auto mark as read), so I have to remember what channels exist so I can remember what each of their settings are set to
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[eddie] That’s interesting tantek, I’m guessing not. But definitely let us know what you find out
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swentel Ok, will be for later for the android client
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tantek I need to add a bunch of labels to a bunch of issues and I'd rather do so using my own site
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tantek [eddie] looks like no according to docs: https://brid.gy/about#github-issue-comment
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tantek now looks at existing Bridgy Publish issues
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[eddie] :thumbsup:
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tantek looks like no issue on this too, so I'll create one
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tantek realizes he fell asleep in the middle of posting a photo last night so first goes to publish that, gets caught up in re-editing post, as you do the morning after
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swentel hehehe
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swentel does it also include a picture when sleeping ? :)
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tantek haha no - latergram
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aaronpk [miklb] i got an error sending a webmention to your site just now, says "Target is not a valid post"
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aaronpk oh nvm that was sending to your author url
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aaronpk i didn't see my comment on your site so i assumed that error was related
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aaronpk i'm guessing you moderate comments?
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@nhoizey ↩️ @zachleat Awesome! I moved from Disqus to Webmentions a while ago, and I wouldn’t come back… (twitter.com/_/status/986643949635997696)
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@kaushalmodi ↩️ @nhoizey @zachleat Hey, I also recently moved away from Disqus to Webmentions! :D It's so much better now. @GoHugoIO #staticsite #hugo (twitter.com/_/status/986645122686349313)
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@nhoizey ↩️ I got a copy of my Disqus comments into my Jekyll thanks to @PatHawks’s plugin: https://github.com/pathawks/jekyll-disqus-comments My migration post: https://nicolas-hoizey.com/2017/07/so-long-disqus-hello-webmentions.html (twitter.com/_/status/986646402485891072)
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sknebel What is wikispaces?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "wikispaces" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "wikispaces is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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tantek sknebel: y tho
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sknebel site death, was curious if they were relevant to us for some reason
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tantek whoa, well, if it had user content, worth adding to /site-deaths
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tantek but not worth creating a page for it unless it had some specific indieweb relevance, e.g. to someone in the community
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sknebel didn't plan to
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snarfed tantek: re your flickr bridgy publish failure just now, no clue why flickr didn't like that file. FUD on the internet implies their "Filetype was not recognised" error is actually more generic: https://www.flickr.com/help/forum/en-us/72157647059658014/72157647342387774/ , so it may be transient.
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tantek is afraid that snarfed gets paged when Bridgy reports failures
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snarfed emailed :P
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tantek sorry to keep breaking things :P
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snarfed actually paging is only for mission critical things, which side projects almost never are
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snarfed not at all! i'm glad you do. bugs need to be found and fixed
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snarfed and this one is flickr, not you
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tantek though would retrying be an enhancement request?
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tantek if the expectation is that Flickr (or any silo) may have transient posting errors?
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tantek (similar to SMTP redelivery attempts?)
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tantek snarfed, you don't distinguish bugs and enhancements in Bridgy issues?
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tantek is looking at https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/labels
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snarfed tantek: not really, no
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snarfed publish retry feature request sounds good...but tricky in practice. lots of different kinds of errors, some transient, some not, and i'll never be able to distinguish 100% confidently
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snarfed (eg this one was an HTTP 400 "file type not recognized," and yet it's likely transient)
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snarfed also with transient errors, occasionally the publish inside the silo actually did still happen, so retrying would create a dupe
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snarfed still feel free to file though!
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tantek unless you could detect the permalink there
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tantek before the retry
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tantek the silo permalink
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snarfed i'd have to introspect silo posts and similarity compare
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snarfed sounds like a lot of work for an imperfect result :/
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aaronpk when i use bridgy publish i also make use of the URL it returns, so it would be weird if it went and published the post later without my interaction
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tantek aaronpk - indeed, perhaps the retrying should be programmatic
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tantek rather than automatic
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tantek right now Bridgy rejects attempts to resyndicate a post
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tantek wondering if there is someway to loosen that up when Bridgy knows the previous attempt failed
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tantek (for any reason)
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aaronpk so the problem is bridgy isn't letting you publish it again? that sounds like a bug, since it wasn't published int he first place
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snarfed huh, really? i thought that was only if the original attempt succeeded
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snarfed right
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tantek oh so I can retry manually mysefl?
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snarfed of course
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tantek ok
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tantek oh boy snarfed I may have to start publishing tag-of posts just for this feature request I'm going to file
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tantek to add labels to issues
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snarfed lol, good
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snarfed you've filed similar issue(s) for other silos, right?
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tantek this one is much simpler
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tantek i've filed person-tag issues for other silos
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tantek this is "just" a plain text tag-of
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tantek and you already have code that does label adding to github issues
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snarfed right
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tantek so presumably it is a matter of 1. recognize tag-of to github issue, 2. call github API to add a label to an issue
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snarfed also needs a new fairly top level code path for editing an existing post, as opposed to creating a new one
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tantek this might be the simplest way to onramp the start of tag-of posts
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snarfed still, feel free to file!
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tantek person-tags have always been harder
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tantek huh I would have thought adding a label would be like adding a comment
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tantek rather than an edit
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tantek it shows up as a separate "activity" among the post's comments etc.
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snarfed this is re bridgy's code, not github's UI :P
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www.boffosocko.com edited /microcast (+164) "Clevercast" (view diff)
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tantek my first goal for today is to get my reacji in-stream reply contexts working (which requires finishing / publishing my emoji detection heuristic)
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tantek my second goal is to publish a tag-of response to a github issue in the hopes of helping with the respective Bridgy Publish feature
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snarfed tantek++
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Loqi tantek has 28 karma in this channel (428 overall)
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snarfed i assume you're familiar with https://github.com/dissolve/single-emoji-recognizer
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Loqi [dissolve] single-emoji-recognizer: determine if some text contains a single emoji or not. useful in determining if a reply is a "reacji" or actual text
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tantek snarfed, yeah, I'm trying to do it in a < 10 line function
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tantek to cover like 99% cases
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tantek also CASSIS so it works in JS and PHP
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tantek I read through single-emoji-recognizer and that's a lot of code and functions
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singpolyma tantek: yay, if you get it working then I can steal it! ;)
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tantek singpolyma of course!
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singpolyma I use your URL autolink regex in so many places
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tantek as long as you are ok with it being a heuristic rather than algorithm :D
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tantek whoa really
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singpolyma yes
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singpolyma I mean, I tweak it sometimes
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tantek issues welcome!
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tantek tantek.com/github/cassis
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singpolyma Yeah, when I publish my new site I should compare any differences and contribute back
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tantek also have you been taking updates? or did you fork some time in the past?
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tantek snarfed, just be glad I didn't add "untag-of" support to the feature request. I figure that can come later as needed :)
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tantek (for removing labels)
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snarfed hah. sure!
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snarfed as usual, bridgy should follow, not lead, so ongoing usage in the wild is generally a good precursor
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tantek but that too requires someone actually bother posting an untag post
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snarfed heh jinx
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tantek (so far we have zero)
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tantek snarfed, btw when I was in Berlin last week, my Github "recovery codes" didn't work so the only way I was able to interact with Github was through my site - was a total lifesaver during CSSWG meeting!
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tantek I kept filing issues, comments, on CSS specs via my site + Bridgy
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snarfed oh man, awesome!
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tantek yeah, and a few folks in the group noticed (the "originally posted links") and that caused some interesting conversations
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singpolyma tantek: I take from your cassis repo fresh every time I start a new thing, but I don't update things with your new copy after. so, kinda both?
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tantek.com edited /tag-reply (+563) "GitHub / GitHub POSSE" (view diff)
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@ChrisAldrich ↩️ Thanks Jeremy, I've had a bear of a time with webmentions from pages, and in particular that one which has some issues with the nesting of author tags, thus making the webmentions appear to be coming from other people. Sorry to get your hopes up... (twitter.com/_/status/986661104918171650)
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tantek.com edited /tag-reply (+101) "/* GitHub */ example of label adding in a comment stream on an issue" (view diff)
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tantek ok I relented and commented re: untag-of as a related feature, incase the GitHub API makes adding/removing labels fairly similar: https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/811#issuecomment-382469530
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Loqi [tantek] There is also the counterpart: 'untag-of' posts (<https://indieweb.org/untag>) which are more of a brainstorm at this point, but I figured worth pointing out as a future enhancement, in case that helps generalize the code for 'tag-of' support. Probl...
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snarfed 👍
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tantek.com edited /untag (+600) "Silo Examples / GitHub / Github POSSE" (view diff)
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tantek continues to unwind the stack
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tantek.com edited /Falcon (+575) "/* Working On */ reacji reply-context in-stream, one-off tag-of post" (view diff)
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tantek well that took 2 hours of wiki / filing issues / comments / coding to unwind the consequences of adding labels to the mf2-parser repo
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snarfed tantek++
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grant.codes edited /Micropub-extensions (-160) "/* Visibility */ Update how grant.codes uses visibility=unlisted" (view diff)
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aaronpk interesting
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aaronpk grantcodes: do you use a URL that is sufficiently random to be unguessable? or could someone reasonably stumble across one of your "unlisted" posts by iterating URLs?
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aaronpk and is that an important consideration for you
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grantcodes No, I don't care if people see them
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grantcodes Just don't want them in my main feed
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grantcodes I support visibility=private for stuff I don't want anyone to see
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grantcodes Then only I can see that when I'm logged it
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grantcodes Actually my watch posts are meant to be unlisted, but I need to update the client that posts them to make them unlisted again
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sebsel I have the same thing with a visibility=true|false and a private=true|false, although I was planning on changing it to visibility=hidden and visibility=private
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sebsel unlisted sounds better
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aaronpk i have that feature too, but implemented a totally different way
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aaronpk in order for any of my posts to show up in a list, they have to be explicitly added to a list. (called channels in p3k). so i can set the channel to a special value "none" in the micropub request and it won't show up anywhere. i kind of like visibility=unlisted better for that tho.
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aaronpk i think i'll add support for "visibility=unlisted" and make it do the same channel thing internally
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[kevinmarks] I like unlisted
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[kevinmarks] What is unlisted?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "unlisted" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "unlisted is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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grantcodes Yeah works well for me
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[kevinmarks] unlisted is a term for posts that are publicly visible, but not included in the homepage or main feed.
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Loqi ok
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loqi.me created /unlisted (+129) "prompted by [kevinmarks] and dfn added by [kevinmarks]" (view diff)
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grantcodes I went with unlisted after a bit of discussion here, and also that mastadon example
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[kevinmarks] unlisted << /nipsa
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Loqi ok, I added "[[nipsa]]" to a brand new "See Also" section of /unlisted https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=47012&oldid=47011
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loqi.me edited /unlisted (+29) "[kevinmarks] added "[[nipsa]]" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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[kevinmarks] Do please add your examples to the page
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[kevinmarks] What is hidden?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "hidden" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "hidden is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[kevinmarks] Hmm. Worth defining that too?
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grantcodes I also added support for post-status=published|draft|deleted recently, and is all quite nice in use togetjer
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aaronpk yea! I use post-status=draft all the time when i start writing a post in quill then want to finish off some nitpicky formatting things on my site
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[kevinmarks] What is nipsa?
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Loqi NIPSA is an acronym for Not In Public Site Areas, and an admin feature of Flickr that allows their support staff to mark an account such that posts from it will not be shown in search results and other similar public views of posts https://indieweb.org/NIPSA
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[kevinmarks] I mislinked there due to case?
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@MisterKapowski Slowly feeling my way through building my #micropub server. Running into an odd issue trying to validate just-generated http://indieauth.com Auth tokens, which the endpoint is saying are malformed. I must’ve missed something… (twitter.com/_/status/986721337304592384)
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