@kevinmarks↩️ I don't think trying to pick a winner is the sensible approach. I want multiple different writing and reading tools for the web, and I want them to interoperate as much as possible. That's what #indieweb is about. (twitter.com/_/status/983495943373934593)
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@sonniesedge↩️ If you don't know what the #indieweb is, then take a look at the website. But in summary iit's about freeing your data from the control of the social media giants. They shouldn't be the ones controlling who can see your content!
https://indieweb.org/ (twitter.com/_/status/983637671670112257)
@jkphl↩️ Sounds like you should definitely mark Nov 3rd-4th in your calender to join us for @indiewebcamp Berlin 2018 (nothing planned & published yet but I'm pretty sure I'll set one up again)
+While you are at it: Include Nov 6th when @stefanjudis & I will run the 1st @a11yclub conf ;) (twitter.com/_/status/983644754276704256)
ZegnatBeen blogging daily for 3 days in a row now. So apparently my “just write HTML” mindset is working :D Happy to be publishing again. This is what the IndieWeb is about, more than developing communication standards!
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[kevinmarks]nice, zegnat. I do find my 'manual til it hurts' approach on my main site does make starting a post feel like a lot of work. Maybe time to iterate on that.
ZegnatAre you entering your Instagram URL on that page? I don’t think that works. You will have you enter your own personal URL, where you have setup IndieAuth, to start there.
MichiMauchNo, on this page I entering my Website URL…and on my Website I have a link like this:"><a href="https://www.instagram.com/doityourself.rocks" rel="me">Follow me on Instagram</a></li>"
ZegnatThere are two steps to the Bridgy process. First is logging in to Bridgy, for this it uses indieauth.com, and you cannot pick Instagram here. But you can pick Twitter. Then when you are logged in, Bridgy will let you connect your Instagram. (I think.)
MichiMauchI think I do…a little bit…and I'm a little bit confused because on an Instagram post is no link back zu my site…but I saw the video and think maybe there is a magic way to do this…
@webrockerWie mache ich denn DSGVO konform klar, dass ein like, der hier auf twitter gemacht wird, wenn es einen artikel aus meinem blog betrifft, auch in meinem blog auftaucht? samt avatarbild? indieweb ist geil, aber an der stelle wirds kniffelig, n'est-ce pas? (twitter.com/_/status/983676818493460480)
ZegnatI don’t know. The about page also seems to talk about both Instagram API and about problems with scraping, so having a hard time sorting the current information from the old
cweiske2. it scans the homepage linked on your instagram profile and searches for posts that have a link to that instagram post (https://brid.gy/about#link)
cweiske5. your blog sees that there is a webmention, fetches that comment HTML, parses it, decides that it's a comment/like and displays it on your blog post somehow
ZegnatMichiMauch, do report back if you get it working or not! You may find actual Bridgy users online here too if you try a different time :) Timezones are hard.
@megarush1024That time you’re googling to try to find a link you forgot to bookmark, and you run across a post from @ChrisAldrich and while scrolling through the comments you realize that whole respond via webmention from your own comments section thing actually worked. Yeah! #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/983705534896529409)
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[jgmac1106]I wish one of the sharing sources from my public hypothesis annotations would be some way to syndicate back to somewhere I lived and then back out to social media
[eddie]I have been thinking through Indigenous on-boarding screens. I had some free time waiting at the vet today and I wrote some potential Microcopy. I’m interested in any feedback you all have. Each header would be the beginning of another on boarding screen. I tried to keep things succinct but I’m sure there are ways to shorten it. The idea is to have it be short, large friendly text with sign up/sign in buttons:
[eddie]Awesome, I’d love your thoughts! You can fork it and edit it or leave a comment. Not the most intuitive but those are the two things I’ve done in the past.
[eddie]Awesome, it’s great to read this stuff from that perspective. Definitely presents some further challenges in how to describe this stuff but it’s needed. 🙂
[eddie]As you said, that would be duplicative. But if someone signs in to any service that doesn’t automatically support reading, then you get the final “Reading” page
[eddie]But then there has to be a way that a Gen 2/3/4 person can know the difference between something that works with IndieWeb protocols versus Mastadon or Twitter or FB
[eddie]I don’t think you have to list it everywhere though. I think once they know that something has to be x-compatible, then you can just ask for their Blog Url, etc. using more normal language
aaronpkByword, the app I just wrote about where I made it post to my site, has "Wordpress" listed as the option, even though it supports any other site that supports the MetaWeblog API
[eddie]Is it more Gen 3/4 friendly to use a term like “IndieWeb-compatible” or some other term we construct that takes the place of more abstract terms like Micropub/sub, and you have a link like “What is IndieWeb-compatible?” That links to more like a FAQ/help page with tech details?
[jgmac1106]they don't, as the tools become more available and automated the community just needs to decide if it wants to open up past devs. The proof will be in the documentation
[jgmac1106]It is hard seeing a tool take off in the general public when even using the word protocol. If developers and engineers are the long term target audience that is fine.
[jgmac1106]Might be a self cleansing problem if people spin up commercial offshoots. Find me one consumer facing how-to guide that uses the word protocol
[jgmac1106]Instead you have to write: Indieweb certified websites (using any number of existing tools to check) you an API called Micropub. APis are like telephones between your browser and other applications. The indieweb API, like MicroPub help us stick to our values. They allow users to control their data while enjoying the network features of commercial silos. By using MicropPub you sign on to other indeweb certified websites. You can publish on your o
[jgmac1106]syndicate elsewhere including popular social networks. Then when other people comment or mention your work you get record of this mention. This is using
aaronpkwhat! "a special copyright-like fee to be paid by websites to news publishers, in exchange for the privilege of using short snippets of quoted text as part of a link to the original news article"
[jgmac1106]Can't lie love the quote I heard from Kara Swisher, can't remember who she was quoting, "Citizen journalism, do you want citizen surgery?" Granted an incumbent protecting incumbency but a valid point
@CianAllnerFascinating watching #Zuckerberg, certainly all the right noises are being made but I am left unconvinced that Facebook should be trusted, people should own their data and not have any illusions these platforms are benign. #IndieWeb is one option! (twitter.com/_/status/983837254710890496)