#dev 2018-05-15

2018-05-15 UTC
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grantcodes_ skippy: My micropub chatbot client is postrchild.com
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[grantcodes] Oh my... My micropub bookmark syncing extension kind of morphed into a on site inline micropub editor and it actually works. I am amazed
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@ChrisAldrich ↩️ @fionajvoss Just for fun I built an own your own AMA page using webmention: https://boffosocko.com/about/ama/ (twitter.com/_/status/996250210228756480)
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[grantcodes] https://www.dropbox.com/s/rk7aiadu3acuprk/To%20be%20edited%20-%20Grant%20Richmond%20-%20Makes%20websites%20and%20other%20dumb%20stuff%20-%20Firefox%20Developer%20Edition%202018-05-15%2012_48_49%20AM.mp4?dl=0
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[eddie] grantcodes++
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[eddie] Wow! That’s amazing!!!
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Loqi grantcodes has 14 karma in this channel (20 overall)
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[kevinmarks] https://files.slack.com/files-pri/T03QR2B2T-FAP9Q85DW/screenshot_20180515-132445.png?pub_secret=aa0be95a20&name=Screenshot_20180515-132445.png Did slack break the names? Every irc person is now incoming-webhook
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[jgmac1106] [kevinmarks] not for me, at least on desktop
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Zegnat That looks odd.
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[kevinmarks] thats on android
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[kevinmarks] desktop looks ok
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sknebel Complain to Slack support?
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sknebel (hm, seems like the way for webhooks that could override titles isn't the recommended one anymore, but no notice that they disabled that)
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loqi.me created /Piwik (+19) "prompted by Zegnat and redirect added by Zegnat" (view diff)
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[grantcodes] New post creation works inline now too!!!
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[grantcodes] https://www.dropbox.com/s/9pmcr4xo7fzlvry/Grant%20Richmond%20-%20Makes%20websites%20and%20other%20dumb%20stuff%20-%20Firefox%20Developer%20Edition%202018-05-15%2012_59_34%20PM.mp4?dl=0
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[grantcodes] I think I will need to add the option to include some sort of template though so the editing post looks totally perfect
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gRegorLove jgmac1106, some microformat weird edge cases are happening on https://jgregorymcverry.com/opening-up-digital-teaching-and-learning-ii/ ...
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gRegorLove your p-author h-card on the byline is inside a microformats1 vcard
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gRegorLove for backwards compatible parsing, if there's an mf1 root like vcard with mf2 properties, the mf2 properties don't get parsed.
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gRegorLove Writing up an example fix, just a moment.
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gRegorLove if you want to maintain the mf1 for backwards compatibility: http://pin13.net/mf2/?id=20180515175223927
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gRegorLove oops, with mf1 hentry too, since your site has that: http://pin13.net/mf2/?id=20180515175330213
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gRegorLove !tell jgmac1106 https://chat.indieweb.org/dev/2018-05-15#t1526406574596300
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi [gRegorLove] jgmac1106, some microformat weird edge cases are happening on https://jgregorymcverry.com/opening-up-digital-teaching-and-learning-ii/ ...
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gRegorLove Probably a WordPress theme issue. A lot of them have mf1 built-in and not quite right.
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www.boffosocko.com edited /read (+153) "/* Twitter */ want to read accounts" (view diff)
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www.boffosocko.com edited /Indieweb_for_Education (+56) "fixed heading depth; added https://librarycarpentry.github.io/" (view diff)
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skippy I'm having trouble installing aperture. I am unfamiliar with `artisan` or Laravel, so it's very likely something I'm doing wrong; but i can't seem to get the DB created correctly.
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pstuifzand normally the steps are:
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pstuifzand - set db values in .env
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pstuifzand - run "php artisan migrate"
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pstuifzand you can copy .env.example to .env to get started
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skippy oh. okay. i was manually editing config/database.php.
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pstuifzand config/database.php gets the values from .env using the env(...) function
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[grantcodes] Once it's more documented, I may have a go at making a docker image for aperture too - easier to self host in my opinion
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skippy https://gist.github.com/skpy/3facb98411d8619b9233f31dbdc3194f
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skippy getting DB errors
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skippy gotta step away for a few.
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[cleverdevil] Great idea [grantcodes]...
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pstuifzand It's a combination of MySQL and the unique on the users url
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pstuifzand 4*512 > 767
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aaronpk Oh that thing
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aaronpk new MySQL versions handle it fine but old versions have that likt
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aaronpk Limit
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Zegnat MySQL is weird. I set the limit for the varchar columns in Mintoken to 255 because apparently MySQL under a certain version literally couldn’t go any higher?
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gRegorLove Up til 5.0.3 it was limited to 255
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gRegorLove InnoDB keys are limited to 1000 by default as well
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Zegnat Any clever PHP folks in here that can tell me why `shell_exec("echo -n 'hi!' | pbcopy");` puts `-n hi!\n` in my clipboard? Surely the -n is an option for echo to drop the \n and definitely shouldn’t get inclused :/
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gRegorLove I'm honestly still in the habit of varchar(255) even though it supports longer, heh
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skippy mysql Ver 15.1 Distrib 10.1.21-MariaDB, for debian-linux-gnu (x86_64) using readline 5.2
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skippy so i need a newer MariaDB ?
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skippy looks like 10.1 is still whats on Docker Hub.
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gRegorLove Not necessarily. Can you change the config to change max key length?
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Zegnat (To answer my own question, PHP apparently doesn’t run in the same shell as I do, it runs in `sh` where `echo` is different. Learn something every day: https://stackoverflow.com/a/40225695)
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skippy gRegorLove: potentially, but then I'm mucking about in my container. I'm using the container's default my.conf, and only volume mounting /var/lib/mysql to my host to preserve data.
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gRegorLove skippy, Ah, yeah I'm not very familiar with that
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skippy 10.1.32 appears to be the latest version on hub.docker.com
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skippy do you know which MySQL / Mariadb version shipped the fix?
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gRegorLove I'm not familiar with this 767 bytes limit or mariadb
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skippy mariadb SHOULD be MySQL compliant 100%.
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skippy but tracking MariaDB releases to MySQL releases may not be trivial
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@jgmac1106 Looks like I can’t get webmentions to display on my notes. New theme looks inevitable for experimentation to continue. Already played plug-in wack-a-mole. Didn’t fix (https://www.brid.gy/publish/twitter) (twitter.com/_/status/996494202732150784)
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gRegorLove It was fixed in mysql ages ago so I'd be surprised if mariadb doesn't have it.
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skippy does it require manual intervention, or is it a default?
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aaronpk yeah mysql 5.7 supports larger indexes, 5.5 does not
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skippy ok
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aaronpk mariadb 10.1.25 is too old, not sure which mariadb version adds it
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aaronpk it's also not critical to running aperture so you can change the index length to make it smaller or just leave off the index entirely
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skippy where would I do that? in the migration file?
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aaronpk yea if you remove the `->unique()` from that line it will avoid making the index
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aaronpk in the very first migration file
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gRegorLove innodb_large_prefix may help if maria corresponds to mysql 5.6.3+ https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.6/en/innodb-parameters.html#sysvar_innodb_large_prefix
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aaronpk or change 512 to 255 and it should work too
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skippy thank you.
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skippy aperture is just spinning when i try to add a feed now.
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aaronpk did you set up and get it connected to watchtower too?
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skippy oh, i need watchtower also?
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aaronpk yeah watchtower is what actually fetches feeds
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skippy i see. and that needs beanstalkd.
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skippy maybe i should wait for microsub-server-as-a-service...
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aaronpk hehe
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aaronpk i tried to warn ya ;-)
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skippy nah, it's a fun learning journey.
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aaronpk watchtower is small enough that someone could create a version of it that has the same interface that works on cron jobs instead of a beanstalk queue
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skippy that would be cool. or i could just find a way to docker-compose all of these pieces correctly.
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@dsample ↩️ Static content for security. Webmentions & other @indieweb standards for community building. Make different kinds of posts first-class citizens (eg. Tweet-style vs photo vs long-form article). (twitter.com/_/status/996517800951865344)
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gRegorLove One thing I might try to work through before IWS is having RSVPs add h-events to my calendar page. That would be one less instance I need to enter events on my google calendar.
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gRegorLove For example, I've posted a few rsvps to meetup.com events. To get that event info, though, I'd need to deal with their schema.org stuff. :/ *might* not be too difficult for basic event info, name and date.
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gRegorLove Manual until it hurts, though. Probably easier to add text fields for name an dt-start
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gRegorLove Something like http://pin13.net/mf2/?id=20180515223721461, then I could have my calendar extract my RSVP posts with `in-reply-to h-event`
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[schmarty] gRegorLove: that sounds awesome! i do something similar with an h-feed of h-events on my homepage and an iCal sidefile that i generate separately. i never went to the final step of subscribing to it in my calendar tho'.
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gRegorLove schmarty, Does it include your RSVPs?
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schmarty gRegorLove: when XRay can parse them
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@jgmac1106 Can someone give me a like or a reply? Testing my webmention functionality since moving to the latest GitHub repo from .9.9 (twitter.com/_/status/996526801756110848)
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