#dev 2018-05-16

2018-05-16 UTC
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dgold o/
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Zegnat dgold, that txti.es XML is just... wow
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Zegnat <item0> <item1> <item2> &c elements? How is that good on parsers?
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dgold I'd love to be to use the json or xml, but the output is just fecking weird
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dgold I'll try contacting him again and see what he thinks about semantic-json
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Zegnat I am not even sure I could rebuild the original from the JSON
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Zegnat Actually, I can’t, it doesn’t even contain all the text :o
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dgold but the site is totally all about the simplicity, so I might have an in
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dgold the http://txti.es/sample-for-zegnat/html output is actually useful
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Zegnat Yes. I would just use that format if you want to extract anything dgold. Seems to make the most sense
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dgold what I asked him for was a /txt api
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Zegnat What would the difference between /html and /txt be?
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dgold the original markdown
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Zegnat Aah
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Zegnat You can probably do HTML->Markdown, but not having to do that step yourself would keep some headaches away
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Zegnat I think I am going to try building a thing like that. I am still looking for the best way to build a writing flow for myself.
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jgmac1106 [GregorLove] I endd up switching themes to SemPress after a few years of always updating Hueman to try and stay compliant I threw in the towel. Working better but I still can’t get a MicroPub solution to work and just tried out all of the indieweb bookmarklet bars and they don’t work for me. On day three I am leaning to a bloggin solution that isn’t WordPress. Maybe by week two I will have a seamless workflow down. We w
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Loqi jgmac1106: gRegorLove left you a message 16 hours, 35 minutes ago: https://chat.indieweb.org/dev/2018-05-15#t1526406574596300
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jgmac1106 see
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Zegnat jgmac1106, yeah, it is too bad how many WP themes seem to have unusable mf1 meta data :(
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jgmac1106 worse is I just can’t get anhy of my endpoints to work
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jgmac1106 Link: <https://tokens.indieauth.com/token>; rel="token_endpoint", <https://jgregorymcverry.com/?micropub=endpoint>; rel="micropub", <https://jgregorymcverry.com/wp-json/webmention/1.0/endpoint>; rel="webmention", <https://jgregorymcverry.com/wp-json/webmention/1.0/endpoint>; rel="http://webmention.org/"
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jgmac1106 "Unauthorized"
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jgmac1106 Sop I haven’t been able to use any MicroPub tool at all. I think I need to figure this out somehow
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jgmac1106 I was really hoping switching themes would help me fix the endpoint issue as well
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Zegnat Oh, no, themes wouldn’t help with that unless discovery of the endpoints is the problem
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Zegnat Afraid I haven’t ever run WP with IndieWeb plugins, so I can’t comment on the endpoints not working
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Zegnat Interesting that you use indieauth.com as auth endpoint. I though WP got an internal one now with one of the later updates
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jgmac1106 its the only way Indieauth log in works
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jgmac1106 In WordPress I have two choices, local and indieauth. If I set it to local I can’t log in. If I set it to indieauth I can
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jgmac1106 but if I set it to indieauth I think I break my endpointw
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Zegnat Define “can’t log in” for me
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[jgmac1106] @gregorlove https://files.slack.com/files-pri/T03QR2B2T-FAQ16FYN4/indieauth.gif?pub_secret=15601f3b74&name=indieauth.gif I mean nothing happens
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Zegnat Oh right
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[jgmac1106] yet I go in and switch to the indieauth endpoint it does work, so I either can't log in to MicroPub services or if log in I can't publish due to bad endpoint
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Zegnat I expected that what it would let you do is login with your WP username/password, and use that to authenticate as an indieauth endpoint.
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Zegnat It is weird that WP would be your indieauth endpoint, and at the same time require you to use an endpoint to login
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sknebel [jgmac1106]: are you using your own site to log into the same site?
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[jgmac1106] @skenbel yeah, isn't that what I would do in a situatuion with a MicroPub client as well
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sknebel yeah, but I wouldn't be surprised if there's something that breaks that flow just for WP, e.g. some protection against doing bad things on the same server
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sknebel so I wouldn't take "site can't login to itself" as "won't work with a micropub client" necessarily
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jgmac1106 [skenbel] Get that question a lot when people install IndieAuth “Why am I using my site to log into my site. I can just use my password.” I can sign in with a different domain and see what happens
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jgmac1106 [skenbel] I am hoping this is why I am getting the unauthorized message from indigenous. Going to try the local endpoint
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sknebel (also, you consistently get my nick wrong: it's sknebel, not skenbel ;))
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Zegnat This is where you need GWG to swoop in and tell you why WP lets you use itself as endpoint that then also requires using itself to authenticate :P
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Zegnat But that is probably where the flow is falling apart.
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sknebel Zegnat: the login with url is only an option
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[jgmac1106] https://files.slack.com/files-pri/T03QR2B2T-FAQ5SFJ1F/screenshot_2018-05-16_06.56.08.png?pub_secret=4026af52e9&name=Screenshot 2018-05-16 06.56.08.png weird is WordPress does the same thing when connecting wordpress.com through JetPack I think
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Zegnat backs away slowly
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[jgmac1106] except.....Did Not Receive a Valid Authorization Endpoint so freaking weird
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sknebel what have you been trying to do to see that?
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[jgmac1106] the whole point of this experiment is to see if I want to stik with WordPress at all. Day three into 14 dayas and I already have bigger WordPress headaches than I have in years
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[jgmac1106] that was just my username and password
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sknebel okay, that sounds borked. username/password login should still just log you in directly
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[jgmac1106] yeah, reset my password and didn't happen again.
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[jgmac1106] I am going to go to local endpoints and see if I can MicroPub
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[jgmac1106] hmmmm https://jgregorymcverry.com/wp-json/indieauth/1.0/auth is my local endpoint. That just doesn't see right
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GWG Why would you want to log into your site with your site? That option is only if you are using an external Endpoint.
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[jgmac1106] because its faster
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[jgmac1106] I don't need to at all. But I would like to use the domain to sign into MicroPub clients that is bigger priority
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GWG That is a separate thing
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[jgmac1106] Many people with one domain use IndieAuth just to save time of entering username and password
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GWG How exactly?
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Zegnat All MP clients that I have seen currently in existence use IndieAuth, thus require you to login with your domain. That’s unrelated to how you log in to WordPress.
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[jgmac1106] [zegnat] but I am getting an "unauthorized' error from every MicroPub client I try
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GWG The local endpoint in WordPress would allow you to log into a Micropub client, however, to do that, you need to log into WordPress.
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[jgmac1106] I can sign in but something breaks at my endpoint
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[jgmac1106] keep forgetting when I am in Slack or IRC
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GWG I am puzzled by that, and think there is something being missed
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Zegnat Where in the flow do you get an unauthorized error? As soon as you try to login to a Micropub client? Or when you have authenticated and they try to get a token?
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GWG Unauthorized is a WordPress REST response to a bad login
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sknebel could that be the authorization header thing again?
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GWG It's hard to test because I can't reproduce it
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sknebel or would that be a 401?
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GWG sknebel, possibly
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GWG I am thinking of writing some error message that accounts for it
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sknebel hm, no header at all also gives an "unauthorized" error
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sknebel if you can modify the responses, a clear response "no authorization header" would be *really* useful
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GWG sknebel, I have to override WordPress. It is delivering that message
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[jgmac1106] Quill, OmniBear, and Indigenous give me unauthroized error
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[jgmac1106] @gwg happy to give you admin rights when you have time to poke around
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GWG One evening I may do that if you want to set up a second account for me.
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[jgmac1106] but if signing into your own site with IndieAuth is bad practice we should add it to documentation. That is one of the first "Wow " momenets people have when trying IndieWeb WordPress
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GWG You can delete it when done
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[jgmac1106] "You mean I don't have to use my userame and password anymore. That is so cool!" Honestly people like it almost as much as webmentions
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[jgmac1106] email address gwg?
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sknebel [jgmac1106]: it's not necessarily bad practice, but it makes little sense when you're using the local IndieAuth endpoints, it only is interesting with indieauth.com
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GWG What sknebel said
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GWG Its myfirstname@mylastname.com
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jgmac1106 [sknebel] thx . I will figure out to to tell people that
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jgmac1106 If I am working with a new user and they probably won’t use a MicroPub client but they want indieauth to log into their site do they set to local endpoint or indieauth endpoint?
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GWG The login with domain option should probably disappear when you use a local Endpoint
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sknebel GWG: well, someone could still have multiple sites and want to use one of the other sites to log in to a wordpress site
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GWG How do they login with Indieauth? Using their site username and password or with Twitter or such?
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jgmac1106 [gwg] Twitter usually
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GWG Then that is Relmeauth, not Indieauth
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jgmac1106 [sknebel I used to do that on wordpress with my Known site, for awhile it was only way it worked
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GWG The local endpoint uses the WordPress login to authenticate, Indieauth.com uses relmeauth
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GWG The confusion between the two protocols is something that aaronpk was trying to address
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jgmac1106 and I am technically using a subdomain so it may be the same domain when I use Known to log in to WordPress
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Zegnat jgmac1106: you can see IndieAuth as having only 1 place you need to login to that then proofs you are who you are to other websites. So if you want to use jgregorymcverry.com as your identity online you could use it for hosting an IndieAuth endpoint (possible through a simple WP plugin!). Then you only need to protect your login information for jgregorymcverry.com (e.g. WP username/password) and every other site that asks you to login
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Zegnat (IndieWeb wiki, Telegraph, Micropub clients, etc.) you only have to give your domain to.
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Zegnat The reason you still need the username/password on the IndieAuth endpoint is because you need to proof to your endpoint that you are who you say you are, before your endpoint will proof it to the third party website.
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Zegnat Hopefully that clears up what the IndieAuth endpoint’s role is, a little bit.
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jgmac1106 yes it does and will help me explain it to others. They don’t really know why they go to settings>general>endpoint. Heck 98% of the people I work with don’t know what an endpoint is
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GWG jgmac1106: That is a documentation issue I think we need to address
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GWG If you disable the IndieAuth plugin, Micropub will just use IndieAuth.com
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jgmac1106 [gwg] hoping to have all my research done and analyzed by summit. Maybe a documentation hack while we are there
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GWG If you use the IndieAuth plugin and still connect to IndieAuth.com using the settings, the code is more robust, but it does the same thing
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Zegnat A secondary point is: using IndieAuth to *login to WordPress* only makes sense if the WordPress website you are logging in to isn’t also your primary identity. So if you run jgmacteachesaboutindieweb.example as a WP blog, and you do not want to have a separate login for it (because you shouldn’t have to!) you could enable login-with-IndieAuth there so you can login to jgmacteachesaboutindieweb.example with jgregorymcverry.com
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GWG The IndieAuth version of the code does more checks, for example
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GWG Zegnat: We checked and that use case does work
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jgmac1106 [gwg] I may try that later, have to get kids to school now. And I wanted to use the pre-dawn errors to learn a css grid full width layout with a sticky nav at top….oh well. Grades due at midnight so I can’t play much at all today
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GWG I built the endpoint into WordPress so I could log into Micropub clients with my website's authentication mechanism.
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Zegnat GWG are there plans to take out the indieauth.com dependency from the plugin entirely? Especially since aaronpk wants to deprecate that at some point anyway? And as you clearly already have the ability to have a built in endpoint.
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jgmac1106 [gwg] I will need to explain that to people. Must remember I am usually doing this with people who have never had A domain let a lone TWO
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jgmac1106 Since IndieAuth comes in waht people (incorrectly) think of the canonical IndeWeb plug-in (that includes all the plug-ins you need to indiewebify..again incorrect) they will always turn it on. Any plug-in that comes with the IndieWeb plug-in is turned on even if people don’t know what they do because they think someone smarter than them ssaid this is what you need
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GWG Zegnat: It's a separate option for people who want to log into their site with Indieauth.com. By default, the option to do it is disabled.
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GWG It should be disabled with local entirely, which is probably what I'll end up doing.
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GWG We have a few fixes being worked on for the plugin. Wonder how the new version will do
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Zegnat For teaching, there is always the flowchart jeremycherfas made, jgmac1106: https://www.jeremycherfas.net/blog/i-yam-who-i-yam
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sknebel It'd probably make sense for the recommended default being "local endpoints, login with Indieauth disabled", at least as soon as we are sure the local endpoints work just as well.
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sknebel are there other plugins that just enable "login to wordpress with social media accounts"?
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sknebel because if that's what people want, it shouldn't necessarily be tied to using indieauth.com/indielogin.com
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GWG sknebel: Choice is always a problem
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Zegnat I’d almost say that “login with external indieauth endpoint” should be a separate non-default plugin. As the majority of people would be better served having WP include a local endpoint. But I bet the WP folks can come up with an elegant solution! I am not the end-user anyway :)
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GWG Zegnat: Too many plugins
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GWG But, either way, aaronpk's replacement of IndieAuth with Indielogin may change some things
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sknebel GWG: btw, could you update https://indieweb.org/Wordpress_IndieAuth_Plugin with the current state? from my understanding the second point is now fully supported too?
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GWG Will fix the rest later
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sknebel thx!
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sknebel GWG++
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[jgmac1106] Sweet was hoping for a Popeye reference in [jeremycherfas] post.
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[jgmac1106] @gwg @sknebel I do modify my header to add link tk fontawesome 5 styl
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[jgmac1106] Link to fontawesome 5 stylesheet but that is only change I made
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aaronpk At some point you're going to need to replace the "log in to wordpress" case that currently uses IndieAuth.com with something else, probably indielogin.com, since eventually I'm going to disable that flow on IndieAuth.com
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swentel I'm currently testing indielogin.com with the drupal plugin
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aaronpk And there is pretty much no reason to use an external authorization endpoint for the IndieAuth/Micropub use case since that doesn't actually provide any functionality
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swentel it's the default endpoint to login into a drupal site, works pretty great
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aaronpk sweet
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cweiske octopus merge: more then 2 parents
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cweiske s/then/than/
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[eddie] ohhhh gotcha
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cweiske there is one: https://github.com/mike42/escpos-php/commit/7553c73c6c8d738d62f340260600ec406379a7f0
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cweiske but unfortunately not multiple authors
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cweiske so it's only for committer + author
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cweiske there will never be more
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[eddie] ah okay
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pstuifzand jgmac1106, is your micropub/auth problem already solved?
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jgmac1106 no but I created [gwg] an admin account. He is going to go in and poke around
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pstuifzand I had perhaps the same problem, a few weeks ago. It was fixed by adding this an RewriteRule to .htaccess file
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pstuifzand This way: https://wordpress.org/plugins/micropub/#faq-header
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pstuifzand I always got "Unauthorized" as a response with the quotes, I remember you said you got the same response
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pstuifzand My .htaccess looks like this now: https://p83.nl/p/671
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Loqi [Peter Stuifzand] .htaccess
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loqi.me edited /code-of-conduct-examples (+61) "tantek__ added "https://samsungcreate.com/code-of-conduct" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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Zegnat I also did one of those commits with multiple people on it, though I did so somewhat accidental because I don’t actually understand the inner workings of git :P https://github.com/Zegnat/php-mintoken/commit/4a8081750c4f24f550b68b16e33bfdcbb2034032
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jgmac1106 [pstuifzand] thx I will take a look. I like your blog as well, though your about me page isn’t loading. I am wondering if I need to just throw WordPress to the wind….the problem is I know everyone I work with will be onboarded to the web through WordPress so I need to be a model <rock>hard place </rock>
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pstuifzand the /about page is something that needs to be added someday :)
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pstuifzand Pages are not implemented yet :P
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pstuifzand I hope my microsub server is something people can install and use someday https://github.com/pstuifzand/ekster
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Loqi [pstuifzand] ekster: microsub server
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skippy perks up.
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skippy this is relavant to my interests.
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skippy pstuifzand: have you considered using Alpine as your base Docker image, over ubuntu? Just curious.
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skippy ack! naming collision: https://hub.docker.com/r/tnoiot/ekster/
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snarfed oh boy they finally launched it. https://developer.twitter.com/en/products/accounts-and-users/account-activity-api.html
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snarfed evidently aimed more at high volume individual accounts (eg for customer service etc) than apps for twitter users, so not so useful for bridgy at least
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aaronpk :(
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aaronpk RIP open APIs
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@jgmac1106 Back to directly publishing on Twitter until I get me #indieweb life sorted. No webmentions for some reason on @withknown and no working endpoints for MicroPub on WordPress. #StuckInASiloWithYou (twitter.com/_/status/996799016712142848)
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aaronpk GWG: what's up with the micropub wordpress plugin?? ^^
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[jgmac1106] [aaronpk] it's just me, folks looking into if I have a problem in header or htaccess
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aaronpk i wish the error messages were better
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[jgmac1106] I switched to SemPress to see if that fixed problem to no avail.
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[jgmac1106] Yeah OmniBear I can't get past token, may not be endpoint problem. Both Quill and Indigenous throwing same unauthorized error
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pstuifzand skippy, the Dockerfile is not needed to run the server. And I don't think the name collision will be a big problem. It should be possible to create the image on the Docker Hub.
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aaronpk i'm pretty sure plenty of other things are called Aperture ;-)
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skippy the name collision wont be a technical blocker, sure. just a human comprehension challenge when searching, is as..
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skippy s/as/all/
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aaronpk although apple retired their Aperture a while ago https://support.apple.com/aperture
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snarfed pretty much all names have collisions. fact of life!
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[jgmac1106] [snarfed] but facts can be expensive. I have had to waste ton of cash on trademark disputes
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[cleverdevil] Wowza that Twitter API pricing.
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[cleverdevil] RIP third-party Twitter clients!
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snarfed [jgmac1106]: oh sure, if you have a commercial product, or trademarks, and you or someone else are litigous. that's extremely rare here though.
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snarfed [cleverdevil] aaronpk hey now, no fud. it's free for up to 15 accounts, and the rest api isn't going anywhere in at least the medium term.
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snarfed again, this new API seems aimed specifically at companies doing customer service and other high volume individual interactions
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[jgmac1106] In some ways I am saddened that APIs only available to rich but if it can allow Twitter to not have to monetize adtech and maybe show Tweetdeck some love I would be happy
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[jgmac1106] And I was victim of litigious action. Literally 10k spent arguing over what letters get capitalized. Awesome
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[cleverdevil] Ahhh, gotcha.
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sknebel so does one still need to apply for access to get the sandbox level access, or is that open to all?
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[cleverdevil] Some Twitter client devs aren't so happy - https://twitter.com/chockenberry/status/996795959228026880
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@chockenberry The math works out to about $10 per user a month to get push notifications. On a platform where people balk at spending 99¢… (twitter.com/_/status/996795959228026880)
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KartikPrabhu haha! the "people want things but don't want to pay for them" argument
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GWG aaronpk, what do you mean?
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aaronpk I just saw that tweet that there was a problem with the Micropub plugin and I'd really like to sort out why this keeps happening
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[jgmac1106] and [aaronpk] where ever indielogin or indieauth ends on WordPress when people do it is a Pepsi/Mentos moment. In terms of wow factor it is a close second to webmentions
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aaronpk That's good to know
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[jgmac1106] I did edit my header in the editor. I don't know if that willbreak it. I saw someone mention header issue
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GWG It appears to be the authorization header again
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[jgmac1106] and @gwg works around the clock. I gave him admin rights. If bug issues are better not broadcasted I can keep them just here rather than having em scooped up
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GWG I need to look at Indieauth to better surface the errors
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sknebel Zegnat: wasn't there some workaround in the code that did help against the authentiation header being eaten, that you added to something recently?
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sknebel if possible, have the plugins check and show an error during configuration that points to e.g. a wiki page with solutions
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Zegnat I checked, and I *think* WordPress is already using that
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sknebel hm
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sknebel What is Authorization header?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Authorization header" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Authorization header is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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Zegnat There might be a difference in Apache versions there, between what jeremycherfas was running and the people who are running into issues?
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sknebel possible
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sknebel any good ideas on where to collect info about this? it's clearly something we should track somehow
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snarfed https://wordpress.org/plugins/micropub/#faq-header
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Zegnat I fall back to apache_request_headers() if I don’t get anything from $_SERVER, Wordpress Micropub uses getallheaders() by default and polyfills it if the function isn’t found.
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Zegnat To make things more confusing, getallheaders() is an alias for apache_request_headers()
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snarfed PRs to the wp-micropub docs FAQ are welcome if it's incomplete! https://github.com/snarfed/wordpress-micropub/blob/master/readme.md#frequently-asked-questions
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Zegnat For some reason, after implementing my fallback code, jeremycherfas reported it started working for him. So it might just be that some versions of Apache do report on the raw Authorization header and some do not.
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Zegnat Basically the advice is: if it isn’t working, use the .htaccess.
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[jgmac1106] trying now
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sknebel if that's all that there is to it (are we sure only Apache does this?), guess we really should just have tools self-test if possible and otherwise document for everything
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Zegnat AFAIK, Apache is the only one that does it.
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Zegnat Self-testing is a little hard because PHP can only guess at the URL it is running on. Somewhat hard to do requests to yourself. Though WP might have an easier time, as the user has already configured their URL during WP setup
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Zegnat I can probably whip up some proof of concept code. Hmm
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skippy whats the problem, exactly?
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sknebel some Apaches don't pass the Authorization header through
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[jgmac1106] @sknebel here is somethign weird Now i am looking at my wordpress dashboard from inside indigenous
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Zegnat Or: (some?) Apache server try to be helpful and will parse the content of the Authorization header and only pass along the parsed outcome to the PHP process. This is fine when it means PHP gets the HTTP Basic Auth credentials pre-parsed and ready to be used. But when parsing fails (e.g. for Bearer tokens) Apache decides not to pass along anything.
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Zegnat starts writing a server test file
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sknebel [jgmac1106]: when doing what? sounds like the redirect back failed?
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[jgmac1106] signing in
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sknebel at which step?
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[jgmac1106] I think it was my mistake when I tried to sign into my WP domain with my Known subdomain, it brought me to the Jetpack Wordpress validation page and then to my dashboard
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skippy https://stackoverflow.com/questions/40494213/apache-destroying-authorization-header maybe related?
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[jgmac1106] Got an error 500 this time after changing .htaccess
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[jgmac1106] will try second line. Do I delete first?
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skippy and similar https://stackoverflow.com/questions/18424055/authorization-header-and-apache-request-headers-function#18424273
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sknebel [jgmac1106]: yeah, using indieauth during the indieauth flow might not work. try logging in with username/password instead?
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pstuifzand [jgmac1106], do you have "RewriteEngine on" in your .htaccess?
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[jgmac1106] and of course [aaronpk] has already updated Quill with the header warning
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[jgmac1106] Yes @pstuifzand
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pstuifzand for a 500 error, there should be a message in the error.log of apache
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[jgmac1106] https://gist.github.com/jgmac1106/7a473d25bcefa97f799c884bd02e081a
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pstuifzand replacing that with: https://publog.stuifzandapp.com/posts/671
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pstuifzand fixed the error
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Loqi [Peter Stuifzand] .htaccess
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pstuifzand for me
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[jgmac1106] but I think I just want to fork your blog after all this work
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pstuifzand I have to do a lot of work, for it to be usable for someone else
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[jgmac1106] and WordPress doesn't? Good luck. It is a cool looking project
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[jgmac1106] You got me up to a 500 error on Quill
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[jgmac1106] and now indigenous can't find my rel links to sign me on...maybe it is the whitelisting step?
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pstuifzand Thanks. Can you find the 500 error in your Apache error log?
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[jgmac1106] found the directory in terminal what is command to open the logs?
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skippy less
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peterstuifzand.nl created /Ekster (+235) "Add page for Ekster" (view diff)
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /Ekster (-37) "linkify ('x is y. <url>.' pattern)" (view diff)
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skippy hrmm... micropublish.net is not finding any syndication targets from my micropub endpoint.
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[jgmac1106] @skippy and @pstuifzand guess the answer is no I can't tried a few times and have to finish my grades. So glad that a half dozen people cam eto help. Thank you so much. I will ping room tomorrow with my error logs
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skippy ooooh, micropublish.net is looking for "syndicate-to", while I present "syndicate_to"
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Zegnat which one is right?
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skippy https://www.w3.org/TR/micropub/#querying
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skippy suggests hyphen, not underscore
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skippy not sure how I ended up using underscores
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Zegnat He. Well, easy fix at least
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Zegnat Maybe dgold is also using underscores? Or did you add this functionality?
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skippy i forget!
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peterstuifzand.nl edited /Ekster (+37) (view diff)
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skippy i may have taken it from nanopub originally. easy to fix though!
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www.svenknebel.de edited /Ekster (+13) "dfn, url" (view diff)
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skippy it worked! yay
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Loqi 😊
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dgold i use syndicate-to
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skippy i'm using syndicate-to now! i named the variable $syndicate_to, so it was likely a typo from that
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skippy pstuifzand: do i need a specific path for queries to ekster? Using docker-compose, and requests to / are 404
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skippy ah, I need /microsub
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Zegnat sknebel, for now a manual test, but it has potential: https://i.imgur.com/5KKTBZs.png
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Zegnat For any authorization debugging: https://gist.github.com/Zegnat/f4192c3cce05d847af3547eea80e383c (ping sknebel, snarfed, [jgmac1106], ...)
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Zegnat That should allow people to do a quick diagnosis of their server, as long as curl is available it should work basically everywhere including in local test environments. Tests $_SERVER and both of the PHP/Apache functions.
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Zegnat Technically it looks for all the array keys where the test authorization is available, so it could “teach” itself what key to check. E.g. for WordPress behind a proxy that may be getting the auth header at a different HTTP_* key
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Zegnat But I will leave that to the WP folks to figure out ;) I am off for bed
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[jgmac1106] see you in mornign @zegnat'
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