#aaronpkthe version of this that could work as an API would be where I could add it as an alternate destination in my site configuration, so that monocle would see it as an alternative account and all the normal micropub tools would work with it
#[cleverdevil]If I were to build it, I'd make it a Micropub-like API endpoint, but you'd pass along additional properties for scheduling
#[grantcodes]All it really does is intercept the request and check for the published date. If it's in the future it will cancel the request and send it at the published time
#Loqireacji is an emoji reaction, the use of a single emoji character in response to a post, introduced as a feature by Slack[1] https://indieweb.org/reacji
#LoqiIt looks like we don't have a page for "federated emoji" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "federated emoji is ____", a sentence describing the term)
#dansupfederated emoji is a means to represent a custom set of emoji as defined by the ActivityPub protocol.
#snarfedinteresting. something seems broken somewhere deep in the internet. DNS is flaky or down for a swath of nameservers and TLDs, but only some, and only between some ASes. can't resolve many hostnames from my home or pair.com, but can from AWS and stanford. nameservers on gandi.net, among others.
#snarfedhere are bridgy external monitoring probes. looks like one fiber cut or network partition or around 9:25pm, then another just after 9:45. https://snarfed.org/outage.png
#[jeremycherfas]That was the point of asking him to document. I can’t actually read the image on my phone and will reply when I can.
#Loqi[jeremycherfas]: aaronpk left you a message 10 hours, 59 minutes ago: that sounds like a change in Known, probably worth asking about any recent changes to photo posts or the micropub integration
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#Zegnat[jgmac1106], just saw your post. Is there any reason you will be writing documentation for the adding of mf2, rather than sending a PR to the theme? (Or maybe you are doing both?)
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#[jgmac1106]@zegnat, both, almost all chnages could be done in customizer and custom menus, but you need to add rel="me" in theme editor
#[jgmac1106]You also have to add the CSS Classes (optional) Link Relationship (XFN) in screen options so people can add =u-url and rel=me to links, so people will need instruction but will be README.md update
#[jgmac1106]I am just beginning to think that instead of trying to build and maintain a plug-in palace we should raise forking armies to invade other WordPress nations, maybe more stable that way...but that is just a thought now
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#sknebelI mean, the majority of the plugins does things outside the themes
#GWGaaronpk: For indielogin, is it the same token endpoint?
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#aaronpkThere is no token endpoint since it's not IndieAuth
#GWGaaronpk: Good point. And how do I get client_ids whitelisted then?
#aaronpkI'm eventually going to make a registration form, but it's hard coded in the config file for now.
#tantek!tell dansup is there a link describing more about federated emoji, especially a connection to the indieweb? otherwise it looks like a made-up concept though a little web search I found this: https://quitter.es/notice/5092976
#Loqi[akihikodaki] #5107 Custom emoji for long-run
#aaronpkI heard mastodon just launched the ability for custom emoji to work across instances
#tantekI'm kinda curious how that solved that particular distributed "naming" problem since anyone can make-up :catmoji: and make it look like a dog for example
#tantekI suppose :textwithoutspace: is now microsyntax for "replace with appropriate image if any" ?
#tantekmight as well add it to /Markdown, you know if Markdown was actually evolved according to real world plain text behaviors like it claims to be :)
#tantekI'll wait til dansup returns to explain what is actually "federated" about it vs. just declaring :something: to be an explicitly supported microsyntax
#aaronpkGWG: I was likely talking about using it for the use case of signing in to WordPress without a password, but not til I open it up for signups
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#tantek.comedited /Do_Not_Track (+777) "Articles, note Firefox Private Browsing blocks sites that fail to obey Do Not Track (cite, quote)" (view diff)
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#aaronpkI don't understand how these spam pingbacks keep getting through
#aaronpkironically I was just reading jeremycherfas' reply to phoneboy's post about "webmention spam" (it's probably not webmention spam), and then the next post in my reader was spam too
#ZegnatFederated Emoji sounds a little like how I am see Twitch emotes pop up everywhere, including within my Discord chats.
#tantekaaronpk where are you seeing these spam pingbacks?
#GWGaaronpk: Three WP versions ago, I convinced them to add a hook to take complete control of trackbacks. There was already a way to take over pingback processing. I wanted to write a single file handler that did both
#aaronpktantek: they get sent to the wiki (to webmention.io), and then they show up in monocle because I have a thing that sends them there from webmention.io
#GWGBasically, since WordPress doesn't care about fixing that code because it isn't Gutenberg branded, just write a plugin to do it
#jeremycherfas!tell aaronpk I deeply resent that "too". 😂
#jeremycherfasWell, he posted that screenshot, which made it clear to me that he doesn't actually know the difference between "ordinary" comments and webmentions, as I pointed out. Also showed him the column in Comments on WP that shows what kind of comment it is. No response yet, but others seem to have been happy with my posts.
#jeremycherfasHe's in Seattle area, and has been travelling for a few days, so may not be up yet.
#jeremycherfasI OSSEd to m.b too, so no excuse to ignore it, really.
#sknebelZegnat: yeah, I think Twitch & in extension gaming communities play a large role in the current popularity of custom emoji (although they were a thing in the forums of old too, both from external sources and forum-specific ones, although not called Emoji back then)
#Loqi[PhoneBoy] @jeremycherfas I hadn’t enabled Akismet because they wanted more money than I currently pay to host my Wordpress site. Now that I see you can name a price of zero, I'm in.
#Loqi[kartikprabhu] @tantek Consider the following example
``` html
<div class="h-entry">
<p class="p-name e-content"><span>Hello World</span></p>
<img class="u-photo" src="globe.gif" alt="spinning globe animation">
</div>
```
which under the new rules would give ...
#jmacI guess what I'm really asking is: Is there an algorithm for "fetch a list of all the links of an outgoing post", or is it just "hoover up all the hrefs an you're done"
#Loqi[Zegnat] php-linkextractor: Class for finding all resources an HTML document links to.
#jmacOh, I hadn't thought to see if there's a library for this
#ZegnatImperfect lib. I need to get back to it at some point. Might get you started though :)
#ZegnatPRs are welcome, if you don’t do PHP, make it issues instead.
#KartikPrabhujmac: "collect all the href" sounds fine
#ZegnatThat will cover most obvious (and understood) cases, for sure
#jmacI'm working from Perl for this project, and I have an HTML parser that makes rudely pulling out all the hrefs trivial, so I'll start there.
#jmacConfidental to Zegnat: I spent much of this morning hitting my project with a UTF-8 wrench until it rendered all the letters of your name (from a webmention you sent three weeks ago) correctly.
#ZegnatI do sometimes slip that in, when I am feeling adventurous. I also use that glyph on Facebook, to the annoyance of all my friends who see me disappear from search results after hitting `i` on their keyboards
#Zegnatdgold, you need utf8 when martijn is a 6-letter name
#jmacI confess I was just using that name as a placeholder. I see there actually is a Khürt among my recent received webmentions, so sorry if that's you and I spelled it wrong just now :-)
#jmacIt seems more true now than ever that one knows that one's software has started working with real-world data when it suddenly starts throwing character-encoding errors every which way. (This may be more true for lazy and insulated American hackers like me though.)
#[miklb]Quill in iOS isn’t loading my syndictate-to targets, in Safari/FF they load.
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#dansuptantek_: I saw your message, what were you referring to?
#Loqidansup: tantek left you a message 9 hours, 1 minute ago: is there a link describing more about federated emoji, especially a connection to the indieweb? otherwise it looks like a made-up concept though a little web search I found this: https://quitter.es/notice/5092976
#tantek_dansup the new federated emoji page - was wondering if it's anything more than custom emoji which appears to be more about a microsyntax than any kind of federation protocol