#dev 2018-08-07
2018-08-07 UTC
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Zegnat !tell GWG if you like nickname cache demos: https://i.imgur.com/Y1TybL7.png ;)
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@growdigital Webmentions! They’re great, read more:
Webmentions: Enabling Better Communication on the Internet
by @chrisaldrich on @alistapart
https://alistapart.com/article/webmentions-enabling-better-communication-on-the-internet (twitter.com/_/status/1026761802330333184)
# @growdigital ↩️ I have yet to implement them @IndiegoHugo, my @GoHugoIO #IndieWeb theme, but there is good thread here:
https://discourse.gohugo.io/t/anyone-for-webmention/10411 (twitter.com/_/status/1026762403873284096)
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petermolnar !tell aaronpk https://webmention.io/api/mentions?jsonp=&token=[secret]&since=2018-06-08T21%3A00%3A04%2B00%3A00&domain=petermolnar.net - this gives me an invalid JSON that is wrapped in (), is that on purpose?
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[jgmac1106] Yeah I figured as much, in a small class manual is fine but if I had 30 kids earning 5-10 badges each... No way
# [jgmac1106] That's the project, super swamped so didn't get much done yesterday... Bookmarked tomorrow to hack
# Zegnat [jgmac1106], I imagine you’d have a badge “First HTML!” which contains some meta data (a name, criteria perhaps, a little gratulatory note). So that is what you add to the badge-service storage. Then whenever a student finishes it and you want to send them that batch, you select the badge, press a “send” button, and then enter the student details. Then the service can automatically send a copy of the badge to the specific
# [jgmac1106] Want to talk to @schmarty as well because if we can get all the IndieWeb building blocks on Glitch for launching a blog and launching a class be sweet
# [jgmac1106] Exactly what I want to build
# [jgmac1106] Just trying to choose my stack. Maybe LAMP it is so my Swedish friends can help
# [jgmac1106] Glitch has a tutorial on setting up MondoDB... I already have a MondoDB Atlas account with plenty of space
# [jgmac1106] But that is a different goal.... Betting Glitch becomes powerhouse in dev education... Want to think about all the building blocks there
# [jgmac1106] @zegnat go look at the stupid prices Credly Portfolium and others charge for badging platforms... There is opportunity in the space.
# [jgmac1106] Then we get @gwg and [pfefferle] to spin up a WordPress plugin
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Loqi GWG: Zegnat left you a message 2 hours, 2 minutes ago: if you like nickname cache demos: https://i.imgur.com/Y1TybL7.png ;)
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# [jgmac1106] The key is the submission from the student saying they have evidence to meet the criteria as a webmention to the course page
# [jgmac1106] This where I do not know if the service should be tied into the class with an api, native, or just static and they go to service only
# [jgmac1106] Not today but tomorrow I can play.... Just need this dog to wake up. Losing my whole morning. Already past 6:30
# [jgmac1106] Thanks for thinking through gonna at least play with Morris
# Loqi Morris is a self-hosted PHP service for storing Webmentions from webmention.io in a JSON format that static sites can use to render them without querying webmention.io on each build https://indieweb.org/Morris
# [jgmac1106] Will do later today, but ai am prototyping in morning and then begging for help at vHWC - Europe if it's running anways
# [jgmac1106] Working during quiet hours and demoing at a HWC on West Coast... That is goal
# [jgmac1106] Just the manual site to site with Morris storage. The badging as a webmention service we can scope out as well
# [jgmac1106] Perfect my hard drive crashed so I can finish the mumble tutorial
# [jgmac1106] Don't need to delete my settings... Small benefits to big problems
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loqi.me created /context_collapse (+232) "prompted by jgmac1106 and dfn added by [kevinmarks]" (view diff)
# loqi.me edited /context_collapse (+99) "[kevinmarks] added "https://medium.com/message/context-collapse-architecture-and-plows-d23a0d2f7697" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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@slashsbin Webmentions: Enabling Better Communication on the Internet · An A List Apart Article http://ow.ly/NGef30liFe6 (twitter.com/_/status/1026802421140467712)
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snarfed sknebel++ for deep sleuthing and thorough tests in https://github.com/snarfed/mf2py/pull/2
# Loqi snarfed: tantek__ left you a message 3 days, 19 hours ago: see https://github.com/google/data-transfer-project
# snarfed sknebel: true! we actually do want some tests to use lxml though. https://github.com/microformats/mf2py/issues/113
# Loqi aaronpk: petermolnar left you a message 3 hours, 10 minutes ago: https://webmention.io/api/mentions?jsonp=&token=[secret]&since=2018-06-08T21%3A00%3A04%2B00%3A00&domain=petermolnar.net - this gives me an invalid JSON that is wrapped in (), is that on purpose?
# petermolnar aaronpk: sorted
# petermolnar yes, Zegnat made me realize
# snarfed for the future, stats posts are searchable on snarfed.org, eg https://snarfed.org/?s=bridgy+stats
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# snarfed FYI all mf2py users! candidate for the next release (1.1.2) is available, including whitespace bug fixes and performance improvements. please try it out and let us know if you hit any problems! you can install with: pip install -e git+https://github.com/microformats/mf2py.git#egg=mf2py
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@sl007 ↩️ just btw : a way requiring minimal work could be a webmention [https://indieweb.org/Webmention] to activitypub bridge,
then you could use https://brid.gy (twitter.com/_/status/1026858419372916737)
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ben_thatmustbeme !tell [shaners] https://github.com/dissolve/microformat-node i have the master just fixed so it runs, it was missing a few folders. npm-updates branch fixes some of the more major security issues, and hapi-17 branch is what i'm working on to really update things to the most modern, but it involves some reworking when it comes to requesting external sites
# ben_thatmustbeme shane pulling me away from work i need to be doing just by asking for help
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[grantcodes] ben_thatmustbeme++ for looking at microformat node
# ben_thatmustbeme oh wow, loqi does yearly now
# ben_thatmustbeme i like that
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# ben_thatmustbeme i have been here, occasionally popping my head in
# ben_thatmustbeme but this entire year is pretty crazy
# jackjamieson.net edited /Microsub (+154) "/* Servers */ Add Yarns Microsub Server (in development)" (view diff)
# ben_thatmustbeme and its not getting better until 2019 from the looks of it
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@petermolnar Apparently it’s not possible to run fully static sites with dynamic features, such as webmention handling - you can get close to it, but you do need to embrace external services.: https://petermolnar.net/running-a-static-indieweb-site/ (twitter.com/_/status/1026886211762376704)
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# petermolnar yes
# petermolnar sort of
# petermolnar turned out my brid.gy => twitter connection went off
# petermolnar but the action fired
# petermolnar so I'll see it next time
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@kaushalmodi ↩️ Equivalents (to what you mention in your post) that I use for my static site: @GoHugoIO (ssg+syntax highlighting), Fuse.js (search), http://webmention.io, @Netlify+@zapier, http://brid.gy. (twitter.com/_/status/1026890893939363840)
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# ben_thatmustbeme !tell [shaners] scratch that, check out the heroku branch, its running fine on heroku for me now :D
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# jackjamieson Thanks [eddie], actually I have a question about indigenous
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# jackjamieson When I try to view my timeline in indigenous, the channel names don't match the uids on my server. e.g. indigenous requests params:
{"action":"timeline","channel":"Y6JcQqFrGIw3o6okvKLawHUx"}, but the correct channel uid is 'test'. Any idea what might be happening?# [jgmac1106] Now that I have access to Indigenous with a reader... I want to buy Indigenous in app store and subscribe to Apeture
# [jgmac1106] It is so cool.
# jackjamieson That's a good thought [eddie], but it's not that. Actually I just figured it out, so I might have a bug report
# jackjamieson I'm logging in from a subdomain where I'm testing my microsub server. But it seems like indigenous is pulling all the information from my main site jackjamieson.net (which points to aperture for now)
# jackjamieson So even though I'm logging in from a subdomain, indigenous seems to be searching for the microsub endpoint at the main domain :(
# jackjamieson Yep
# jackjamieson Ah, I see! Thank you! Can I fix it for now by deleting and reinstalling indigenous?
# petermolnar aaronpk: are you around?
# jackjamieson Doing that now, thanks!
# petermolnar the webmention.io webhook payload - is that json, encoded form, or some combination of both?
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# petermolnar also found that $_POST is empty when header application/json is present
# jackjamieson [eddie] That seems to have worked, thank you! And it's led me straight to another bug, though I think this one is part of the wordpress-micropub plugin. I'll create an issue there and mention you in case its useful
# petermolnar is old
# petermolnar remembers the PHP Black Book
# petermolnar gotta luv php
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tantek__ [07/Aug/2018:15:27:37 -0700] "POST /publish/webmention HTTP/1.1" 500 289 - "Falcon"
# tantek__ !tell snarfed does Bridgy Publish to Github only support posting to public repos? If so we should probably add that to the docs as a specific restriction as https://brid.gy/about#github-issue-comment doesn't mention it currently
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# snarfed1 tantek__: just checking, i'm guessing that repo has no issue labels, right?
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# Loqi snarfed: tantek__ left you a message 9 minutes ago: does Bridgy Publish to Github only support posting to public repos? If so we should probably add that to the docs as a specific restriction as https://brid.gy/about#github-issue-comment doesn't mention it currently
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gRegorLove Interesting post about https and limited networks: https://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2018/08/07/securing-sites-made-them-less-accessible/
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