#dev 2018-10-26

2018-10-26 UTC
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[dmitshur] something I've just realized and want to confirm: it's completely possible to use IndieAuth and rel=me to reliably unify different types of accounts that belong to the same person (I think there's a term for this; I can't remember it right now).
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[dmitshur] e.g., if alice logs in via alice.com and her site has rel=me link to her github.com/alice page, my site can confirm that alice.com and github.com/alice are the same person. and vice versa, if she logs in to my site via github.com/alice, I can find out that alice.com is her domain
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[dmitshur] yep, this is mentioned at https://indieweb.org/rel-me#Why:
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[dmitshur] > It also allows distributed verification - proof that an account on one site is under the control of the same person as another site.
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[dmitshur] that is pretty awesome. that means I can support for indieauth and not fear that one person might get 2 distinct user accounts
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[dmitshur] add *support
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@rsertelon Dweb: Identity for the Decentralized Web with IndieAuth - Mozilla Hacks - the Web developer blog https://hacks.mozilla.org/2018/10/dweb-identity-for-the-decentralized-web-with-indieauth/ (twitter.com/_/status/1055719389645934592)
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Zegnat !tell [dmitshur] the matching of profiles using rel-me is also called "profile equivalence". http://microformats.org/wiki/rel-me
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Zegnat Anyone know if https://github.com/aaronpk/indielogin.com/commit/4e195476c4fe74ba8e8458413f35fa9cda57c33a is covered by relmeauth or if the algorithm might need updating?
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sknebel What is UMA?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "UMA" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "UMA is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[kevinmarks] [manton] I accept webmentions to kevinmarks.com and show them on the front page (though they are mostly brid.gy @'s from twitter)
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sknebel !tell aaronpk I tried comparing UMA to our thing: https://indieweb.org/2018/Nuremberg/autoauth#even_later_notes <- it seems UMA does not specify the actually interesting bit, or I didn't understand how it does so
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[kevinmarks] [dmitshur] you should verify that there is a rel=me in each direction, not just a one-way assertion. Also, you aren't stopping people from having multiple accounts as they can have multiple domains/urls
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[tantek] what is Preact
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[tantek] what is Vue
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Preact" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Preact is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Vue" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Vue is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[manton] [kevinmarks] Thanks! Also interesting point [snarfed] about follow posts.
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[jgmac1106] [manton] WordPress users set a page for generic mentions
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aaronpk darn, I was hoping foursquare might reset my rate limits at midnight but it seems to be still blocked
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Loqi aaronpk: sknebel left you a message 3 hours, 53 minutes ago: I tried comparing UMA to our thing: https://indieweb.org/2018/Nuremberg/autoauth#even_later_notes <- it seems UMA does not specify the actually interesting bit, or I didn't understand how it does so
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aaronpk I think i'm gonna have to tell OwnYourSwarm to chill out a bit. it is making quite a few requests.
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aaronpk ahh interesting sknebel... I will have to review that
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[cleverdevil] [eddie] any news on Indiepaper iOS?
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[eddie] [cleverdevil] That's a great question. I don't think I've heard anything. I'll take a look in the App Store Connect
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[eddie] This is what I've been working with on my iPad on this train trip 🙃 Because who doesn't like copying aaronpk? https://dev.eddiehinkle.com/now
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Loqi I'm currently traveling on a train since an hour ago.
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[eddie] What's up with that white space, Loqi?
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aaronpk Nice
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Zegnat Looks like there is a double linefeed char in there and somehow some of it is being kept. Might be an mf parser bug, [eddie]
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Zegnat New whitespace normalising code has been written in Nürnberg but not rolled out.
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Zegnat Wanted agreement on a spec first.
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Zegnat (What kind of spec? This kind of spec, feel free to file issues: https://github.com/Zegnat/php-innertext/blob/master/README.md)
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@Simounet #Dweb: Identity for the #Decentralized Web with Indie Auth // #IndieWeb https://hacks.mozilla.org/2018/10/dweb-identity-for-the-decentralized-web-with-indieauth/ (twitter.com/_/status/1055937198900547586)
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[eddie] ahhh, good to know it's probably not me Zegnat :) The linefeeds are because my template is in Pug which loves linefeeds
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Zegnat And they should be fine where they are, we should preferably be collapsing those the same way HTML does, which would result in the single space you see in the browser
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[eddie] Gotcha 👍 I'll leave it then 😁
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[eddie] aaronpk I haven't checked it on many trips but it seems like my speed in the /trip endpoint seems to keep returning -1? Not sure if you've seen this appear on your side. Not a big deal,
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[eddie] But just thought I would flag that for you next time you're messing around in Aperture
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[eddie] I'll also file it on the repo just for future memory
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aaronpk Yeah you can thank iOS for that
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aaronpk It just means the phone doesn't know the speed
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[eddie] ohhhh
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[eddie] glares at iOS
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aaronpk Overland/Compass don't do a lot of processing beyond what iOS provides
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[eddie] lol I'm on a train, iOS. Come on, now.
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[eddie] That makes sense and is very smart
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[eddie] The -1 is useful though, because I can do an if statement in my template and essentially say only mention that speed if I know the speed
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[eddie] I'm thinking at some point I should probably cache this data, right now I'm fetching it live every time someone visits my /now page
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[eddie] aaronpk do you cache this or use a webhook?
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aaronpk My site has its own cache of my current location. The Compass web hook tells my site to update the cache
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[eddie] Ahhh gotcha
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[eddie] That's a good idea haha
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[eddie] Although I guess since technically I haven't pushed this to my live site I can't be blamed for hitting my compass server on every page load. haha
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jacky is there a testbed for micropub?
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jacky like something I can use and hit with a bunch of endpoints to ensure it works
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jacky I'm writing some tests for my project to do this but curious if anyone else has done this
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[schmarty] micropub.rocks ?
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Loqi [schmarty]: [eddie] left you a message 4 days ago: How strange!! Thanks
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jacky I was hoping something a bit more local
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jacky also I haven't ever got that to work for me - I don't get that email to sign in
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