#dev 2018-11-21

2018-11-21 UTC
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gRegorLove Known has some form of it, the issue might be expanding it. E.g. if you micropub post an article to Known, it knows how to categorize it.
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[jgmac1106] But in terms of UX for me it's not more work (once I write the tinymce media query for source code editor) click template page-copy-edit html if I had posting interface filling in every input field take more clicks
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[jgmac1106] I just always thought that was how world works, you make template files, make the html input forms, write the functions to connect the two and store data somewhere
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[jgmac1106] Just getting more comfortable living in an HTML than CMS world. Used to keep the templates in stickies and Google Keep
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[jgmac1106] Figured better to host on website
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GWG Trying to figure out how to approach weather.
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[jgmac1106] My suggestion is to wear a coat when it rains and sunblock when it is sunny and hot. Hats help.
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[jgmac1106] Actually I think you have or had a weather rock... Please get a raspberry pi and create a Micropub client weather rock.. Talk to @schmarty use somr adafruit stuff
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jjuran Some weather shouldn't be approached at all
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GWG [jgmac1106]: I have an Indian Weather Rock at home.
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GWG But no, weather posting on my site.
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GWG [eddie] added a weather triggered banner. I feel I have to level up
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[jgmac1106] I do like the idea of seasonal or weather related CSS what [eddie] did was cool
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GWG For me, right now, I'm trying to decide if I should always store it. Also, right now it always looks at current weather, but doesn't factor in past posting, or other issues.
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GWG And historic weather data may cost money
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GWG Surprisingly
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tantek so do you save $ by building your own archive of historic weather data over time?
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GWG tantek: That's a money issue too
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[jgmac1106] Emoji solution 😏
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GWG tantek: Also, remember, where am I when I experience weather?
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GWG I'd have to build compass or something equivalent.
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GWG Which I've thought about doing.
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GWG Building it into WordPress, as I tend to do
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[jgmac1106] Do you mean severe weather event? Or just every day? Location= long, lat, weather= ❄
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[jgmac1106] Or just install any of https://wordpress.org/plugins/tags/weather-forecast/
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[jgmac1106] In a way, as I think of it weather forecast images an OG emoji with 100% cultural understanding... Barring never seeing snow or ocean, etc
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GWG [jgmac1106]: Simple Location has that built in
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[jgmac1106] What problem are you trying to solve then? Sorry just a bit confused.... But a WP Compass equivalent would be cool... Sounds like huge undertaking
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[jgmac1106] Still think the phone and micropub will always be better for this kind of stuff. Go with the device with the sensors
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GWG [jgmac1106]: I'd like to store the information regardless of whether I set location or not.
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GWG So, auto location
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[jgmac1106] Maybe try HTML? <p>the weather is sunny</p> heard it doesn't take up too much storage
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GWG It is the process I have to think about
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GWG for now, I have to fix a bunch of bugs
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GWG Specifically regarding media and location
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GWG Things never work in testing like they do in live.
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ @khurtwilliams Because I sent a native webmention. The night photo class looks amazing. Photos great. (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1uNI8m) (twitter.com/_/status/1065220486072868864)
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[jgmac1106] for my following list would you do <li class="u-follow-of h-card"> or <li class="u-follow-of"><span class="h-card">
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[jgmac1106] dropping the u-follow-of
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[jgmac1106] <li class="h-card"><a class="p-name u-url" href="$url">$name</a> <span class="p-note">$description</span></li> doing this and add the u-follow-of on the ul
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sknebel how about you try the 3 variants in a parser (i.e. https://php.microformats.io/ has a nice field to put html directly into it) and see which one produces something useful?
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[jgmac1106] thx
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[jgmac1106] <li class="h-card"><a class="p-name u-url u-follow-of" href="http://www.drrobinkay.org/">Robin Kay</a> <span class="p-note">Professor University of Ontario Institute of Technology</span></li> this works great, the p-category I tried to put on the group of h-cards didn't work, but that makes sense it isn't in a top level h*
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[jgmac1106] doing this puts the url twice in the parser: *u-url u-follow-of* not sure if I should put in the u-follow-of in someone's h-ccard...think not
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jgmac1106 would a list of h-cards that I will update be an h-entry or @snkebel do you see a use case of an h-feed where someone might consume someone else's entire follow list?
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[jgmac1106] got it I think https://jgmac1106homepage.glitch.me/following.html but having a hard time getting it to recognize my h-card as the author
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[jgmac1106] who is swentel?
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Loqi https://indieweb.org/User:Realize.be
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sknebel good question on the best format. I feel like a h-entry for the "page" with a bunch of follow-of properties makes some sense, but a feed with a bunch of inidividual follow posts could work too
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[jgmac1106] but what if a list of h-cards became an h-feed? that others could somehow in future work? doing the h-entry...just thinking out loud
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sknebel could also do a feed of cards, true. that then doesn't strictly encode the "follow", but that might not be necessary. without anything actually consuming this it's a bit unclear what's best
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[jgmac1106] though I couldn't get the parser to recognize follow-of unless it is is u-follow-of, went with u-url since it is someone else's h-card and added rel="colleague muse" adding the u-follow-of listed the url twice in the parser
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[jgmac1106] using p-note for someone;s tagling
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jgmac1106 tagline*
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sknebel I don't think we have many if any examples with a lot of markup yet. i.e. chrisaldrich only has a list and some of them with XFN rels, gRegorlove just a bunch of h-cards
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jgmac1106 yeah and grantcodes made his yesterday…really hoping one day this is done by social readers
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jgmac1106 I add someone to a channel, a u-follow-of post gets syndicated and their h-card added to my following page
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jgmac1106 till then do it by hand…if the cousins weren’t in town I would teach my son and pay him $0.25 a list item
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sknebel hah!
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[jgmac1106] basically I copied the page from the WordPress links manager plugin and then styled the items to make cards,
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@jgmac1106 @t be cool if the @mozdevnet doc pages accepted webmentions. We could track learning across the network without adding heavy analytics. Then parsers watching changes over time on linked paged can help power the machine learning driving tutorial bots. (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1VlDQ5) (twitter.com/_/status/1065251567652229120)
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[eddie] Just FYI Bridgy Fed consumes u-follow-of
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[tantek] On h-entry to be clear, because following is something you do / did at a specific time (dt-published) just like a “like”
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[tantek] I know we value UX around here so I just had to share this. thread: https://twitter.com/round/status/1064909140319973376
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@round Four horsemen of the UX apocalypse: • Design Thinking • All white personas • “Here’s a video of the prototype” • ______________________ (twitter.com/_/status/1064909140319973376)
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[jgmac1106] thx
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