#dev 2018-12-11

2018-12-11 UTC
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[jgmac1106] the native h-review in Known is really close to everything needed for webmention badge: http://pin13.net/mf2/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fquickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com%2F2018%2F12%2F11%2Fhello-world-badge.....somethign went a little weird in the markup, may have been my type or TinyMCE
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@aaronpk ↩️ Some of this was being done in the Social Web WG which wrapped up early this year. Right now most of this is continuing in the IndieWeb community: https://indieauth.net https://indieweb.org (twitter.com/_/status/1072293124288929792)
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tantek whoa IG has started using img srcset!
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aaronpk omg i really need a UI to post slides from my talks to my site
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[tantek] what format are your slides?
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aaronpk keynote and also google slides
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aaronpk i'm happy if i can just upload a pdf really
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[tantek] do you previous self-hosted presentations / slides still work?
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[tantek] *your
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[tantek] (in the previous p3k)
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aaronpk yeah i've always treated the slides as a separate artifact outside my CMS, even if that is a set of static HTML files
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aaronpk tho it turns out it's easier to move a PDF around than the whole HTML bundle
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aaronpk i'm trying to keep all the actual files whether they are HTML or PDFs here, and just reference those from the "presentation" posts within the p3k system https://slides.aaronparecki.com/
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aaronpk https://aaronparecki.com/presentations contains all the other related data around the presentations such as the name of the talk, the event it was at, the date, etc
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Loqi PLUG: OAuth 2.0 Simplified
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aaronpk but as you can see that hasn't been updated in 2018 at all
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aaronpk probably because quill lacks the UI to create those posts
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[tantek] interestingly, my slide decks have also always been a "separate artifact" outside my "CMS"
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aaronpk i also sometimes link to video or audio recordings of the talks from my presentations page
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aaronpk i need to standardize a format for that tho. sometimes i embed the youtube video on the page like https://aaronparecki.com/2017/05/30/18/
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Loqi What is the IndieWeb?
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[tantek] What is rhetorical?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "rhetorical" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "rhetorical is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] rhetorical is, wait, did you really want an answer?
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aaronpk 😂
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[tantek] rhetorical is … wait, did you really want an answer?
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Loqi ok
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@aaronpk This morning I gave a brief talk about IndieAuth at the @W3C Strong Authentication and Identity workshop. I just finished transcribing the recording and published the slides and video! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeCNlB7v08I (twitter.com/_/status/1072381543941844993)
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aaronpk [eddie] some clever iOS onboarding you might consider for indigenous https://i.imgur.com/y3QElGU.png
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[eddie] Ohhh cool!
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[eddie] Thanks!
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@The_CityOfRoses Portland Peeps Top story: IndieAuth: OAuth for the Open Web - Aaron Parecki http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeCNlB7v08I, see more http://tweetedtimes.com/v/1662?s=tnp (twitter.com/_/status/1072405183735451649)
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swentel morning
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Loqi happy day
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[kevinmarks] I have had to compare 2 deeply nested json API results, so I made this: https://gist.github.com/kevinmarks/dd62a4b96b4ad5b2e1dc1f8665322921
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[kevinmarks] could be handy for mf parsing
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[jgmac1106] My slides as well been outside my CMS... Usually Google Slides... Started HTML slides but those just go on a subdomain so each can have its own stylesheet and make uploading easier
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GWG aaronpk, how big is your database for aperture?
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aaronpk the entries table is about 4gb
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aaronpk that includes the full text of posts but no media
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GWG That would make a big WP table
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aaronpk yeah, you might want to take the approach of storing only current items in each feed or otherwise expiring the content
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sknebel ~ 2.6 kb per item?
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sknebel feels much-ish
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aaronpk a small entry is 600 bytes of JSON plus the other columns plus however mysql stores it
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aaronpk an actual blog post example is like 4kb
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GWG aaronpk, I think jackjamieson is purging once read
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GWG But he just showed up to answer that
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aaronpk the challenge i had with actually deleting entries is i need to somehow know that the next time the feed is polled not to add them back again
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GWG For me, I would bookmark things that I wanted to save
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aaronpk i might change the free version from deleting after 7 days to only storing the current items in the h-feed/RSS feed
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GWG aaronpk, works
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GWG I was looking at Watchtower this morning
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aaronpk thankfully watchtower doesn't need to store much at all so i can leave that alone when i change aperture
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GWG What's the advantage of Watchtower for you?
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GWG I am thinking about system resources right now
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aaronpk keeps all the feed polling and scheduling out of aperture
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GWG Parse This is slow
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aaronpk i wanted to be able to scale it separately and also change aperture without affecting the polling stuff
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GWG Good reason
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sknebel there was nobody from plume in here, right? people just shared links from elsewhere?
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snarfed sknebel: yes i think that's right
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swentel snarfed, I'll go and digg into the peertube code where the AP happens :)
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snarfed swentel: thanks!
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snarfed auth and signatures in AP are sadly underspecified
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swentel it reminds me of an issue you opened somewhere else iirc
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snarfed yup
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swentel re: the signature library you use no ?
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swentel this is a good overview of the commit https://github.com/Chocobozzz/PeerTube/issues/104#issuecomment-347476230
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Loqi [Chocobozzz] **Merged in develop!** For now, only Server-Server communication is implemented. Of course, the implementation is far from perfect and it misses some features (Block, Reject...) that I'll add later with dedicated issues (I'll create an "ActivityPu...
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snarfed swentel: thanks! they mention how they generate outbound signatures, but not how they check inbound sigs
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swentel it would be to good to figure this too soon right :)
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snarfed eh no urgency on my part, but i'll happily implement whatever you figure out
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swentel oh yeah, I'm just experimenting, no rush at all
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swentel the integration with mastodon works smoothly atm, and most people are on there, so I'm really happy with that :)
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swentel I did a live demo 2 weeks ago
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swentel posted a note, then syndicating to twitter and mastodon
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swentel and then everyone in the room started liking and replying
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snarfed cool!!!
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swentel it was awesome to see their faces :)
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swentel video should be up soon normally
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swentel I also love this drawing https://twitter.com/sgrame/status/1065967670179303425
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@sgrame Being social on the IndieWeb by @swentel @drupalcampbe #drupalcampbe #drupal #sketchnote https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DssT8BZWoAAmyeK.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/1065967670179303425)
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swentel I know him quite well, every speaker secretely hopes he attends the session you're presenting :)
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[tantek] nice sketches!
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swentel snarfed, peertub at least has decent error messages thank god
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aaronpk "peertub" is that like a bathhouse?
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swentel peertube, sorry hehe
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snarfed yes! thank god indeed
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swentel ok, found where they validate it, let's see if I can send it from my local machine
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swentel jacky, https://video.jacky.wtf is your peertube instance no ?
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swentel haha 500
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swentel I'm good a breaking things
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swentel !tell jacky Hi, I've tried sending an AP request to your peertube instance, and got past validation of the signature, but then a 500. In case you see something in the logs, could you add them at https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy-fed/issues/40 ? Thanks ! :)
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi [swentel] #40 support peertube
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snarfed hah, AP is hard evidently
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aaronpk Who knew
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swentel there's also a nice code comment in the signature validation
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swentel / Mastodon algorithm
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swentel if that doesn't work, own implementation
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swentel oh well
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swentel to be fair, the error response was helpful until the 500 ;) and they even have federation docs at https://docs.joinpeertube.org/lang/en/devdocs/federation.html
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snarfed peertube++
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Loqi peertube has 1 karma over the last year
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[cleverdevil] grantcodes++ for the amazing new keyboard shortcuts in Together!
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Loqi grantcodes has 22 karma in this channel over the last year (35 in all channels)
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[grantcodes] [cleverdevil] You found them 😛 still needs a lot of work, but they sort of work
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jacky !tell swentel yeah, that's my instance - lemme see what's going on on my side
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi jacky: swentel left you a message 1 hour, 59 minutes ago: Hi, I've tried sending an AP request to your peertube instance, and got past validation of the signature, but then a 500. In case you see something in the logs, could you add them at https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy-fed/issues/40 ? Thanks ! :)
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jacky now I got homework :)
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jacky wonders if this was done from Drupal
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jacky okay I think I see it; I'll attach it to the issue
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