#dev 2019-01-25

2019-01-25 UTC
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[kim_landwehr]
Need some help, I am trying to create a todo list in Twiddly-wiki with check boxs. The code is creating the checkboxes but not the title and I can’t figure out what I am missing. Going cross eye trying
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[kim_landwehr]
<list filter=‘[!has[draft.of]tag[task]!tag[done]sort[created]]”>
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[kim_landwehr]
<view field=“title”/>
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[kim_landwehr]
</$link>
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[kim_landwehr]
<$checkbox tag=“done”><$link to ={{!!title}}>
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[kim_landwehr]
</$checkbox>
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[tantek]
bear, looks like it was briefly mentioned here on 1/21, then again in chat with an article in 1/23 where we finally defined Pear accordingly
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[tantek]
what is Pear
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Loqi
Pear is a package manager for PHP that was compromised for 6 months with a malicious version that was downloaded and deployed to an unknown number of websites https://indieweb.org/Pear
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bear
cool - i've been not participating as I would like but wanted to make sure it was known
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[tantek]
Pear << 2019-01-23 Ars Technica: [https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/01/pear-php-site-breach-lets-hackers-slip-malware-into-official-download/ If you installed PEAR PHP in the last 6 months, you may be infected] / Pear.php.net shuts down after maintainers discover serious supply-chain attack.
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Loqi
ok, I added "2019-01-23 Ars Technica: [https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/01/pear-php-site-breach-lets-hackers-slip-malware-into-official-download/ If you installed PEAR PHP in the last 6 months, you may be infected] / Pear.php.net shuts down after maintainers discover serious supply-chain attack." to the "See Also" section of /Pear https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=55883&oldid=55861
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[tantek]
bear++ appreciated!
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Loqi
bear has 4 karma in this channel over the last year (6 in all channels)
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[tantek]
lol that preview image has nothing specific to Pear or the incident
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[tantek]
it's just a stock photo from Flickr
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cweiske
phew. 2 hours of debugging omniauth to find a bug in the micropub helper lib :/
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cweiske
s/omniauth/omnibear/
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jeremycherfas
Thanks for your efforts.
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@ton_zylstra
↩️ The webmention plugin deals just with the bare bones mention itself ‘my url, mentioned url’. I found the Semantic Backlinks plugin takes those webmentions and decides how to display them https://www.zylstra.org/blog/webmention-tweaks/
(twitter.com/_/status/1088739786553282560)
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sunil1
hi friends.....is there a way to bypass linkedin "authwall"?
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jeremycherfas
!tell sknebel,cweiske what is the difference between the statis site CMS that you are adding and things like Jekyll and Hugo?
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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cweiske
a CMS brings a web-based editor
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cweiske
so that non-technical users can edit pages
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cweiske
static site generators require you to edit files
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jeremycherfas
Ah. I see. So this is like a GUI for static sites.
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jeremycherfas
Thanks. Maybe I should clarify that. Or maybe you will, now that I've asked the dumb question.
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Loqi
sknebel: jeremycherfas left you a message 8 minutes ago: what is the difference between the statis site CMS that you are adding and things like Jekyll and Hugo?
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GWG
Hello all
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GWG
How goes your Indiewebbing?
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jeremycherfas
Not too bad. With help managed to add some sparklines to my main site sidebar.
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GWG
Oh?
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jeremycherfas
No big thing, but something I've wanted to do for a bit. Still entirely manual for data entry.
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GWG
I didn't see it when I just checked on mobile
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jeremycherfas
You have to be on a specific post, not the home page, and on mobile the sidebar comes after the main post. So it is right down at the bottom.
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GWG
There it is
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jeremycherfas
:thumbsup:
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jeremycherfas
As I said, no big deal, but biggish for me.
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GWG
You are your first audience
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GWG
I am switching from svg sprites to inline svg
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jeremycherfas
I saw some of that discussion go by, but it didn't mean a whole lot to me at the time.
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GWG
asuh commented on the 600kb and growing sprite I kept making everyone downloaded
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jeremycherfas
I saw. And the inline will just be part of the plugin?
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GWG
Yes
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GWG
So most people won't notice
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jeremycherfas
Doesn't that put the onus on you to create an SVG for every possible target?
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GWG
jeremycherfas, no
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GWG
I just included an icon set
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GWG
There is a function that maps url to icon. It has a filter
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jeremycherfas
Ah. So then the plugin calls the required icon from the set and then uses that?
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GWG
Yes
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GWG
Or uses the default globe icon if there's no match
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GWG
I need an Indienews icon
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jeremycherfas
I thought maybe you were drawing each icon directly. Your approach is obviously more efficient.
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GWG
jeremycherfas, I use Simple Icons
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GWG
They keep adding icons for me
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GWG
I just refresh periodically and push a new version
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jeremycherfas
Oh yes. I have a note to switch to those at some point.
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GWG
To what?
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jeremycherfas
For the icons used for my rel-me. To get good ones for micro.blog and pnut
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jeremycherfas
Currently uses font-awesome, I think.
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GWG
jeremycherfas, WordPress site or other?
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jeremycherfas
Other. Grav. At the bottom of the home page.
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[Rose]
Are you still using FontAwesome 4 Jeremy?
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jeremycherfas
Not sure. Let me check.
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jeremycherfas
Yup. Looks like it is loading 4.7.0 as specified in Antimatter.
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jeremycherfas
Should I switch up?
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GWG
I implement this for rel me, and I can share the matching code if you want to adapt it for Grav
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jeremycherfas
I'd be interested to see it. Grav uses a plugin to do an aboutme, and that uses font-awesome. I don't think it would be hard to get it to use Simple Icons instead. I just have not done it.
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[tantek]
cweiske++ that is an excellent summary of the difference between a CMS and an SSG
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Loqi
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jeremycherfas
Actually, that plugin is using 4.5.0
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jeremycherfas
One to put on the todo list for next week.
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[tantek]
should be an FAQ IMO
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[tantek]
SSG fans, please review my comparison summary with CMSs here to see if it is reasonable/fair and not too critical of SSGs (feel free to reword) https://indieweb.org/content_management_system#To_CMS_or_not_to_CMS.3F
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cweiske
[tantek], we began a static-site-cms page https://indieweb.org/static_site_cms
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[tantek]
just saw that - nicely done
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cweiske
interesting choice that https://respondcms.com makes: they provide their code, but the files necessary for installation/setup are missing
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cweiske
so they can say it's open source, but nobody is able to install
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cweiske
and they have paid support for setup
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cweiske
and they have no installation documentation
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[schmarty]
tantek: looks okay!
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[tantek]
thanks schmarty!
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@jackyalcine
↩️ There's more around but to be honest; building on top of them is going to result in the Embrace, Extend and Extinguish approach. The #IndieWeb has a concept of private #Webmentions which can help with sending one-to-one messages
(twitter.com/_/status/1088902272401125376)
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jacky
hmm does indieweb.xyz not return anything in its webmention response? :(
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snarfed
yup some sites don't
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snarfed
we had the "there's no standard webmention response" conversation here recently, right?
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aaronpk
We should standardize this when used to syndicate a post
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aaronpk
Sounds like a good extension
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aaronpk
since that's not even what webmention was supposed to be for but turns out to be a useful mechanic
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Loqi
I agree
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GWG
I wouldn't mind a standard return
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GWG
Also, discovery for Webmention Syndication wouldn't hurt
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GWG
Maybe adopt what we set up for Indieauth
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snarfed
heh yes webmention was a useful hack for syndicating, but i don't know that we want to encourage it more widely...?
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snarfed
micropub seems strictly better, right?
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GWG
Probably
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GWG
But Bridgy doesn't have a Micropub interface
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[tantek]
nice thing about of these uses of webmention is that they don't depend on any auth
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[tantek]
GWG, I know, I filed an issue for that (feel free to +1 it 🙂 )
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snarfed
[tantek]: uh i think you need auth for these uses
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GWG
tantek, do you think we should encourage it though?
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snarfed
at least if the use case is syndicating your posts to your silo accounts, that obviously needs auth
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[tantek]
yes because it makes sense for Bridgy and will help us understand another Micropub use-case
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snarfed
eh. if i was building bridgy now, i'd use micropub for automated syndication, not webmention
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snarfed
i only used webmention because micropub didn't exist
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[tantek]
snarfed, right, for anything with an "account" destination. but IndieNews and XYZ don't have accounts
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snarfed
ah ok, understood.
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snarfed
you could do micropub without a token, right? couldn't news aggregators like those accept anonymous microupb?
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GWG
Anonymous Micropub...fun idea
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GWG
Sounds like a trackback
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Loqi
[snarfed] #796 micropub API for bridgy publish
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[tantek]
anonymous micropub!
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[eddie]
I do like Micropub as the standard syndication model
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[eddie]
Including anonymous Micropub haha
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[eddie]
Speaking of 796, snarfed. Do you have a preference? I think I prefer POST /publish/>{service} vs the other models
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[tantek]
Ooh Brewster just proposed a "Read Now" link for references to books in Wikipedia that goes to Internet Archive view of a book right to the specific page. Kind of a like a "Read Now" webaction
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