#dev 2019-03-09

2019-03-09 UTC
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[eddie] !tell gRegorLove Here is my JavaScript API Wrapper if it helps your research at all: https://github.com/EdwardHinkle/bookmark/blob/master/src/lib/goodreads.ts
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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snarfed bad news, LinkedIn backfeed looks pretty unlikely. API is only for advertisers. https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/166
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Loqi [snarfed] #166 add LinkedIn support
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aaronpk Oh darn
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aaronpk swentel: I think someone had a proposal for alt text in photos in form encoded? I think actually micro.blog shipped something for that
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gRegorLove Goodreads 1 API call per second is limiting for any potential PESOS service :/
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Loqi gRegorLove: [eddie] left you a message 1 hour, 13 minutes ago: Here is my JavaScript API Wrapper if it helps your research at all: https://github.com/EdwardHinkle/bookmark/blob/master/src/lib/goodreads.ts
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gRegorLove Not impossible, just limiting
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gRegorLove Thanks, [eddie]
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gRegorLove I think an mvp that I could make would let you specify one of your shelves to monitor. It would poll that every so often and send micropub requests for books you add.
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[eddie] Ohhhhh, yeah that’s not a good API limit
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jeremycherfas Working on my listens script in a spirit of collegiality
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sknebel !tell swentel: re formencoded alt-text: I think micro.blog does between the app and the site with some custom way, but there is no standard (again the idea that more complex demands use JSON)
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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jgmac1106 is there anyway to tell macos to never use the quoations with serifs and always use th straight quotations? I can’t figure out the pattern of when which quoation mark type gets chosen…trips me up sometimes..not often, but bugs me
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Zegnat Edit -> Substitutions -> Smart Quotes
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Zegnat Is where you toggle what I think you find an annoying feature
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Zegnat But it will do it for all text, not based on fonts
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Zegnat never lets the OS decide about quotes and writes them all manually
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Zegnat (Specifically because ‘UK English’, “American English”, ”Swedish”...)
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[jgmac1106] perfect thank you....just spent an hour fixing a bunch of broken urls because I had one curly cue and one straight quote
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[Rose] How can I see what error OYG is encountering?
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Zegnat Not sure that you can
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[Rose] Darn. Now I need to hunt around and find out where the error is ending up on my server.
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[Rose] (It was a semi colon, for the curious)
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Zegnat shakes fist at random semicolons
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[Rose] Hehe
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[Rose] Own Your Gram likes me again
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Zegnat yeay! :)
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[Rose] (Because it can post, that's apparently required)
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jacky https://simpleicons.org/
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Zegnat Are those the icons GWG is using?
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jacky is not sure
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[manton] Looks like a nice resource. Also excited to see Micro.blog's icon in the list!
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jacky ;)
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jacky hrm should ownyourgram be asking for the 'upload' scope?
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jacky I've been hardening my scope -> micropub endpoints
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jacky and now OYG won't work since it only wants create posts
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sknebel jacky: it should ask for "media"
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jacky lol I'm wondering if I could just "add" it on my end (like giving my apps more scope control after the fact)
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sknebel although according to the wiki, "create" typically implies "media", and media is interesting for clients that shouldn't be able to make posts, but can upload media
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jacky hmm that feels a bit overload-y no?
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sknebel ?
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jacky for 'create' to hold 'media' as well
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jacky (granted there's no common language on scopes IIRC)
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jacky I take that back
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jacky https://indieweb.org/scope lists some
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jacky but it's not like required to align to those
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[kevinmarks] Dennis on responsible developer api use : https://twitter.com/kerrymflynn/status/1104419517508276226?s=09
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aaronpk We should try to create common scopes wherever possible, but your site is always able to create its own policies esp if your auth endpoint gives you a UI to tweak what scopes are issued to an app
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Loqi +1
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jacky Hmm okay
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GWG Zegnat, those are the icons I use
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Zegnat Knew I recognised the link :D
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Zegnat The current session about post type testing made me realise I need to update the mf2 JSON description and my matching JSON validation schema... That is one thing I will be doing tomorrow.
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[grantcodes] Zegnat: I use the schema you and [cleverdevil] made in my micropub endpoint to reject things that are completely invalid at least
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Zegnat They can definitely be good first filters
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jacky oooh
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[grantcodes] Yep, but I don't know how much use they would be in the tests we were describing in the last session. Since I think a mf2 parser should return valid mf2 json anyway
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[grantcodes] I can't remember if json schema has the idea of properties being recommended but not required, will need to look into that
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Zegnat It has the idea of properties being optional
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Zegnat But that might only work when you do not allow any undefined properties, which you probably want to do anyway for future compatibility
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Zegnat Alright, I think I only found 2 cases that I didn’t have documented on the mf2 JSON page, so my schema shouldn’t be *that* out of date
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Zegnat jacky, in case you hadn’t seen it, at some point I wrote up http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2-json describing JSON. That page is also the one that links to mf2 validation schemas at the bottom
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Zegnat *describing mf2 JSON
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swentel aaronpk, ::isURL() in XRay\Formats\Mf2 now wants a domain with at least a dot in it. Would you consider allowing domains without a dot? Use case is that the testbot on drupal.org runs on a hostname like 'drupaltestbot12345'
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Loqi swentel: sknebel left you a message 9 hours, 37 minutes ago: re formencoded alt-text: I think micro.blog does between the app and the site with some custom way, but there is no standard (again the idea that more complex demands use JSON)
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swentel another way would just swap that class out during tests of course heh :)
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aaronpk oh hm yeah I can probably open that up
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swentel need to run, will open a request tomorrow
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gRegorLove chrisaldrich, out of curiosity I was looking into Kindle notes options some, found some services that process the MyClippings.txt file, like https://www.clippings.io
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gRegorLove So there may be some more indieweb-ish sharing options we could make
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jgmac1106 I have a page where I took back my kindle notes
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jgmac1106 Its pretty easy to read the source code from the html pages of your notes
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gRegorLove Did you use MyClippings.txt?
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gRegorLove Oh, on an Amazon.com page?
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jgmac1106 yeah, lookinf for the link, I logged in read source, copy pasted and add all my kindle notes
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gRegorLove Do you do that periodically or was it a one time thing?
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gRegorLove manual until it hurts, heh.
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jgmac1106 yeah copy.tidy html.post
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jgmac1106 https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2016/01/03/part-2-participatory-culture-in-a-networked-era-digiwrimo
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jgmac1106 no that isnt it
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jgmac1106 ..well somewhere on my website it has been done
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sknebel hm, I really should get my AutoAuth test "post" up to date to the spec if it isn't yet... gonna review that first
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sknebel https://indieweb.org/AutoAuth#See_Also
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Zegnat I want to do the same for my autoauth proxy, so people could theoratically test their own stuff with it
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sknebel really should give it it's own identity then though
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sknebel (I think right now it acts as you?)
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Zegnat Good point, yes, it is probably hardcoded to be me
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Zegnat I guess everyone will just have to add me to all their audiences for testing purposes ;)
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sknebel and everyone can read all messages that are actually to you with it, is the bigger concern I have
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Zegnat I’ll have to use the Swedish Royal Library policy: anything sent to me will be publicly archived for all eternity
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sknebel okay, I think my test endpoint still matches the spec (if you think otherwise, feel free to ping me to review, I might very well have missed something). need to add some better debug messages though
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gRegorLove jgmac1106, made some progress on grid gallery: https://gregorlove.com/iwc-online-2019.html
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gRegorLove Mostly working ok in IE, need to add a polyfill for object-fit.
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gRegorLove this one has links, too. Thinking I'll do a lightbox to view the image larger
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jgmac1106 here is me: https://jgmac1106homepage.glitch.me/photos.html
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gRegorLove Looking good!
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jgmac1106 I switched to using figures rather than divs, working on guestbook now, want to figure out how to get the fig caption to hover as schmarty does
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gRegorLove That's a good idea. I might use figure too
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gRegorLove jgmac1106, I've got a CSS-only hover effect on this mockup: https://gregorlove.com/archives.html
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jgmac1106 worse case scenario I just put figcaption under for now but was thinking if I made <figure> a grid with three rows and then figcaption in a row 3 I have lowe third
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jgmac1106 that same code is commented out in what I copied from your website
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gRegorLove No, archives.html is slightly different. The line you want is `.grid-item a:hover~.grid-date`
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jgmac1106 .grid-item a:focus~.grid-date,
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jgmac1106 smart
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jgmac1106 okay will use that to hack around…need a break from the guestbook, but first game of chess with my kid
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[grantcodes] In an indieauth helper library does it make sense to require a developer to input a scope if they do `response_type=code`. I know it is optional, but it seems like it would be good to sort of force developers about what scopes they request
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sknebel I think that makes sense
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aaronpk I would worry that if you force them to enter a scope and they don't understand what it is for, they'll just type the first thing that makes the error go away
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sknebel same applies for "they get a default scope and it isn't enough for something they want to do" then?
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[dougbeal] Has anyone integretated websub with static site build? Seems like there could be potential
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[grantcodes] Is a random string better than no scope though?
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sknebel (admittedly, never been a fan of "default scope" being a thing, because sensible defaults depend on the application)
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[grantcodes] I'm not going to check what the scope is on my end, just that one exists and leave the server up to actually handling it
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aaronpk i'm more worried that every app is going to request "create" scope or something since it's the most common and probably the first one you find if you start looking for examples
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sknebel is it a meaningful difference if requests a create scope (and maybe is lucky and it's a Micropub client and actually wants that scope, otherwise it fails once it tries to do something) or if it requests a default (and maybe is lucky and the default fits what it wants (e.g. "create" :D), or otherwise it fails)?
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aaronpk I think "no scope" should mean no scope, not default scopes
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sknebel " If the client omits this value, the authorization server MUST use a default value."
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aaronpk well let's do a survey and see what servers actually do
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[grantcodes] Haha I seem to dug up more of a debate than I thought there would be...
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GWG Anyone have a function that normalizes ISO8601 date formats?
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sknebel selfauth refuses requests ommiting the scope parameter
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sknebel wordpress defaults to "create update"
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GWG Yes, but you can still uncheck it
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sknebel ah, good point - and checking nothing fails the request it seems
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gRegorLove It took me a while to catch onto this, but Goodreads API is basically their regular URL structures + a query string with your API key
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gRegorLove So that might explain some of the limitations, e.g there isn't a dedicated page for your reading status updates, just your profile page
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GWG Okay. Dates normalized
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GWG aaronpk: Would you be able to comment on this? https://github.com/dshanske/parse-this/issues/37
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Loqi [jackjamieson2] #37 Search and aaronparecki.com
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aaronpk I don't think aperture is looking for rel=feed at all
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GWG aaronpk: Back to my obsessive find as much as possible nature?