#dev 2019-03-16

2019-03-16 UTC
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[tantek] now I just have to document the "how to add a Slack chat button" to your /contact page
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[tantek] here I'll leave a few pointers:
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[tantek] Slack << How to make a "slack:" link: https://api.slack.com/docs/deep-linking#open_a_direct_message
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Loqi ok, I added "How to make a "slack:" link: https://api.slack.com/docs/deep-linking#open_a_direct_message" to the "See Also" section of /Slack https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=58241&oldid=56493
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[tantek] Slack << How to find your TEAM_ID and USER_ID: View Source on the desktop web slack client ( https://indiewebcamp.slack.com/ ) and search for "team_id" in the source. The after it starting with "T" is your team_id, and just before it the value starting with "U" is your USER_ID
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Loqi ok, I added "How to find your TEAM_ID and USER_ID: View Source on the desktop web slack client ( https://indiewebcamp.slack.com/ ) and search for "team_id" in the source. The after it starting with "T" is your team_id, and just before it the value starting with "U" is your USER_ID" to the "See Also" section of /Slack https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=58242&oldid=58241
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[tantek] contact << How to make a "Slack chat" link: see [[Slack#See_Also]] for how to construct a one click "slack:" URL that others can click/tap to write you private message on the Slack instance of your choice (like on the [https://indiewebcamp.slack.com/ IndieWeb Slack])
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Loqi ok, I added "How to make a "Slack chat" link: see [[Slack#See_Also]] for how to construct a one click "slack:" URL that others can click/tap to write you private message on the Slack instance of your choice (like on the [https://indiewebcamp.slack.com/ IndieWeb Slack])" to the "See Also" section of /communication https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=58243&oldid=51053
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[tantek] alright, that's enough breadcrumbs for now. Let's see if anyone else figures it out from that and adds a Slack chat button to their /contact page 🙂
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[tantek] LMK if you do and I'll be happy to test it
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[tantek] just noticed that Tim's slide about the "1990 Building blocks of the WWW" mentions HTML, UDI, HTTP but the background image is JavaScript, which uh, didn't appear until 1995 😂 https://twitter.com/timberners_lee/status/1105377954077556736
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@timberners_lee In 1990, I coded up the foundational technologies for the World Wide Web. To celebrate the web’s 30th birthday, will you add to a crowdsourced Twitter timeline of the web’s milestone moments? https://webfoundation.org/2019/02/help-build-a-timeline-of-the-webs-history/ #Web30 #ForTheWeb https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1cE14SX0AE2dqg.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/1105377954077556736)
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[tantek] More importantly, "building blocks" framing!
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@wsteenvoorden ↩️ Volgens mij ook een stuk groter dan de huidige Alkmaarklasse en vol met handige tools zoals een drone, microsub en een werkbootje. Ben benieuwd naar de naamgeving. (twitter.com/_/status/1106804608897294337)
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[tonz] 😄 that message above talks about microsub as in ‘micro submarine’ not indieweb’s microsub
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GWG I need someone with reviewing privileges in the Indieweb GitHub community. Anyone?
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Zegnat Hm?
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Zegnat thinks he has that
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GWG I need an approving review on https://github.com/indieweb/wordpress-indieauth/pull/132
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Loqi [dshanske] #132 331
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GWG So I can push it
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Zegnat I feel bad reviewing something I haven’t pulled and tested
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Zegnat That feels counter to the setup of requiring review
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Zegnat Oh, it is just text
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Zegnat There you go GWG
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GWG Thanks
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GWG Zegnat, if it was code I wouldn't ask
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snarfed Zegnat: eh, code review and QA aren't the same thing
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snarfed practices obviously differ, but most places/envs i've worked in, the burden of testing is on the implementer(s), and/or occasionally dedicated QA, not on the code reviewer(s)
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GWG snarfed, I remember your offer
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Zegnat Very few open-source projects I have ever been involved in have QA. It is up to the person approving the PR to make sure it is OK to be put on the branch that is being merged to (often master, which will be used to cut releases). So I tend to put a little more weight on those reviews (which may or may not include QA & making sure tests run etc)
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GWG The question is what our community repo standards are
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snarfed ah, sure. for PRs to open source projects from non-committers, yes, the reviewer's burden is higher
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snarfed (having said that, in this case GWG is a committer :P)
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Zegnat GWG, I don’t think we really have standards
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Zegnat snarfed, fair point :P
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GWG So, what do I do? The WordPress projects in the Indieweb repo lack consistent reviewers?
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GWG Do I unlock the repo?
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GWG And only ask for reviews on new features?
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GWG Not bug fixes?
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GWG I am thinking about Indieauth for WordPress. It is fairly stable
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[aaronpk] Please drop the 2-legged vs 3-legged terms
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[aaronpk] They aren't part of OAuth 2, and only really caused confusion in OAuth 1
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Zegnat Hmm, I think I found them in relation to OAuth 2 as well, when I was looking for prior art to show that we can’t use that name
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GWG Finally deploying PKCE to stable.
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tw2113 woo
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Zegnat 16 hours until Zegnat, did you get that PKCE PR for selfauth done?
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Loqi I added a countdown scheduled for 2019-03-17 4:24pm CET (#6524)
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Zegnat I need to finish up the last 30% or so that I didn’t get done during commute this week
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Zegnat Thanks for the indirect reminder, GWG :D
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[aaronpk] Some people still call OAuth 2 things that, but mainly the terminology is around grant types now
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[aaronpk] So 2-legged OAuth 1 is replaced by the OAuth 2 client credentials grant
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[aaronpk] I think we shouldn't call this something new, it should still fall under the IndieAuth umbrella, we can call it some other grant type though
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[aaronpk] IndieAuth mainly encompasses the idea that user and app identifiers are URLs, and we normally use the OAuth authorization code grant type
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[aaronpk] So I think we should call this IndieAuth with some other grant type, where we need to name the grant type not name a whole new spec
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Zegnat This has from day one been an extension to indieauth, as it requires all of the discovery pieces from that spec to even work. Naming the grant type sounds like a good idea to me.