#dev 2019-05-05

2019-05-05 UTC
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GWG Was having trouble sleeping so added to the https://github.com/indieweb/vouch/issues
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GWG Based on today's discussion
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GWG Hopefully there will more thought and discussion
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[Rose] Well this is not fun, I woke up to find all my sites are down, I can't connect to my server, and rebooting/shutting down via the admin panel also doesn't work
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[Rose] Good start to hack day 😛
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[Sonny] good luck with that
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[Rose] Yeah, let's see if support can fix it in the next hour and a half :zany_face:
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GWG [Rose]: I can show you how to build a kind if you want
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[Rose] That would be great!
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GWG That would work with or without a site
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[Rose] I don't need a live site for that. Though I do need my site back... and to improve my backup system.
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GWG I did have an idea for Vouch as a service
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GWG When I woke up in the middle of the night
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[Rose] I saw something about that!
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GWG Why not get help finding links?
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GWG Lower the cost of finding connections
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GWG By having a service that stores links and let's you query for them?
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GWG It wouldn't solve the trust problem, just the searching problem
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Zegnat You are going to build another indiemap, GWG? ;)
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GWG No, hoping someone else would
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[tantek] Sounds like useful Brainstorming GWG!
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[tantek] Definitely add it even a few sentences to /Vouch#Brainstorming maybe as Vouch links as a service?
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GWG I added it to issues
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[Rose] Hah, my server is back with 1 minute to spare!
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[tantek] Yay!
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Loqi giggles
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@justmarkup How to you all handle old comments when switching from something like Wordpress to a Static Site Generator? Plan to use Webmentions in the future, but unsure how to preserve the old comments. (twitter.com/_/status/1124964587844112384)
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doubleloop Huh, I get a 404 when redirected to indiegenous.abode.pub/android/login during auth with Indiegenous for Android
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doubleloop *indigenous
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doubleloop I always spell that wrong :D
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doubleloop swentel: would that be an Indigenous issue? I can auth into my site from other Micropub clients, e.g. Quill
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petermolnar apparently there's no escape from and IWC ... I ended up adding syndication URLs for my flickr syndication :D
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[Caspar] [Chris_Adams] https://developer.wordpress.org/plugins/settings/custom-settings-page/
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[tantek] petermolnar++ nice!
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Loqi petermolnar has 4 karma in this channel over the last year (16 in all channels)
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petermolnar well, technically, it's any brid.gy syndication, but I'm only using flickr
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kisik21 Redis seems to be fun!
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kisik21 I'm trying to draft how an indieweb blog could work with a microservices-based architecture
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kisik21 Because I'm distressed about Micropub crashing and taking my whole site with it
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kisik21 And also I think Redis will significantly speed up my site
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kisik21 I kinda reinvented Redis in my mind when I thought I needed to cache my posts in memory
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[tantek] well I just wasted 30 min figuring out that you can only differentiate :link and :visited by color
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[tantek] (e.g. not text-decoration, e.g. using text-decoration:underline to indicate unlicked links more explicitly)
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[tantek] 😕
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[Rose] 😞
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kisik21 Is O(number of posts) bad for a category autocomplete list?
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aaronpk kisik21: redis is fantastic but I wouldn't recommend it as your primary storage for posts. I use it all the time but essentially as a fancy caching layer.
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aaronpk It would make a good cache/index for posts stored on the file system tho!
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kisik21 aaronpk: Why not? Redis has good persistence
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aaronpk As long as you have a good plan for backing up and restoring the data then sure go ahead
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aaronpk but definitely test out that whole lifecycle early on
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aaronpk for example test out what happens if your machine disappears and all you have is the off-site backup of your redis, make sure you can restore it to a new machine and see what that workflow is like
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kisik21 If my machine disappears and all I have is an RDB file, I load it to Redis and relaunch all of the services pointing to the new database. At least in theory, because almost no code have been written.
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kisik21 It currently exists only on paper
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aaronpk I'm just saying you should definitely test that sooner than later :-)
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kisik21 Yeah, but like, what if my filesystem fails a fsck and never goes up? Same stuff, only I lose the code too
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[chrisaldrich] gRegorLove, saw your like/mention yesterday. I'll have to look into it. It's definitely not theme dependent, it's something that the WordPress Semantic Linkbacks plugin would parse and determine. In the meanwhile, I manually changed it.
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[chrisaldrich] gRegorLove, I actually had to dig into the database to find your URL. I'm curious if you have a full site feed available? I only saw feeds for "bigger" content, but not for likes, bookmarks, etc. which don't seem to be discoverable at all from the front end.
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[eddie] !tell doubleloop My server has issues this morning, and the abode.pub domain is hosted on my server. Your error might be resolved now with Indigenous for Android. Maybe try again?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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doubleloop [eddie]: thanks - still the same issue though, 404 (as reported by nginx)
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Loqi doubleloop: [eddie] left you a message 31 minutes ago: My server has issues this morning, and the abode.pub domain is hosted on my server. Your error might be resolved now with Indigenous for Android. Maybe try again?
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[eddie] Hmm okay. I don’t have an Android phone, so I can’t debug more than that. So we’ll have to rely on swentel from there 😁
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gRegorLove chrisaldrich: No "firehose" stream for me. I'm temporarily experimenting with a channel for likes, which is excluded from my notes stream. https://gregorlove.com/channels/stars/
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gRegorLove I'm not totally sold on it. I'm re-thinking a lot about my home page, notes stream, other stuff.
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gRegorLove I *do* like the channels idea, but it's kind of tacked onto my existing site structure rather than being a core part of it.
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gRegorLove My articles feed and notes feed are 90% of my content, though. Only likes are excluded from the notes stream currently.
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GWG I am curious about what should be in a main feed vs firehose
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gRegorLove I don't plan to set up a firehose currently
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